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  • Apr 16, 2008, 08:32 AM
    spitvenom
    That is something the people of Japan need to stand up against. I struggle like most people in this country do and I am sorry what Obama said is the truth maybe that's the problem people do not like to hear the truth in America.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 08:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    See answer #4 to this posting for more detail on my position .

    Dude we all know your position - you don't like him, you look for reasons not to like him, you want so much for others not to like him, you spend your day posting stuff here against him - we get it.

    I just think it's because you're scared that he'll be the one to face McSame. Then they fun will begin. :)
  • Apr 16, 2008, 09:01 AM
    spitvenom
    I loved what Rev Wright had to say he simply quoted a white ambassador but everyone ignores that part. The second clip when he basically says rich white men run America is the truth. If it isn't the truth then Please tell me who does run America?
  • Apr 16, 2008, 09:59 AM
    tomder55
    To tell you the truth if Evita and Obama were the final selection I would probably have to vote for Evita. Obama is clueless and a product ;like Kerry of spending too much of his formative years away from the country. Yes;he tried to establish street cred so he could get in touch with his identity but he is nonetheless out of touch ;as demonstrated by his typical white ;typical hicks comments. Here is another one .

    When he was campaigning in Iowa he was commenting about high prices . But instead of using an example that most Iowans could relate to he said :

    “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?”... “I mean, they're charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

    Arugula ? The people of Iowa could care less about the price of arugula in a whole foods health store. What they were into was the price of corn on the commodities market. I'm telling you ;besides his racial narrative there is very little difference between Obama and the Brahman John Kerry.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 09:59 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Speech,
    You are so predictable. I'm so happy I don't have negative types like you hanging around me. You should seek some counselling to find out why you are so angry at most of the people around you.

    NK, not nearly as predictable as you are. The point of the last post was everyone has problems - even Canada - but I don't sit around here mocking your country like you do mine on a regular basis. Also predictably, you turn to personal insults instead of making a useful argument. I don't mind though, I'm not the one that looks like the fool.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:05 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    but I don't sit around here mocking your country like you do mine on a regular basis.

    You do a fine job of mocking your own country 24/7.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:14 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55

    When he was campaigning in Iowa he was commenting about high prices . But instead of using an example that most Iowans could relate to he said :

    “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?” .... “I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

    .

    Well some people must eat Arugula from Whole foods since he won the Iowa Caucus.

    I would vote for McCain over Billary. One she has no spine her husband cheats on her and she stays with him! Two and I know this is a pointless question but really it is not. Someone asked her are you a Mets or Yankees fan and she couldn't answer because she didn't want to offend any voters. If she doesn't want to offend any voters over a question that stupid how can she make decision that are going to offend a lot of people. Three she cried when she lost the Iowa Caucus I can not have my leader crying when they don't get their way.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Walter Williams addressed the outsourcing 'problem' in his column today and asked this question, "Suppose you were choosing a country to live in. Which country would you prefer: a country that has the world champing at the bit to put its money into or one where the world is unwilling to invest?"

    I thought it was a good question. He gives some facts and figures but I'm sure that won't matter to some of you.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    You do a fine job of mocking your own country 24/7.

    LOL, do you need some glasses NK? I don't mock my country, I mock the absurdity emanating from the left... wherever they are.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:39 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    LOL, do you need some glasses NK? I don't mock my country, I mock the absurdity emanating from the left...wherever they are.

    That's what I meant earlier - you can't stand half of the people in your own country. Sad way to live.

    I've got a huge website to test before it goes public. Ciao.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 10:59 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    That's what I meant earlier - you can't stand half of the people in your own country. Sad way to live.

    I've got a huge website to test before it goes public. Ciao.

    NK, 6 percent of Americans define themselves as very liberal, another 15 as liberal according to an AP-Ipsos poll last year. 27 percent defined themselves as somewhat conservative, 14 percent as very conservative with 34 percent as moderate. It's that wacko 6 percent that I have no respect for.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 11:41 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Walter Williams addressed the outsourcing 'problem' in his column today and asked this question, "Suppose you were choosing a country to live in. Which country would you prefer: a country that has the world champing at the bit to put its money into or one where the world is unwilling to invest?"

    I thought it was a good question. He gives some facts and figures but I'm sure that won't matter to some of you.

    While I respect what he says I can't fully believe it since this townhall website is a little bias I mean it is a conservative website especially since they have tee shirts with a smiley face on it that says imagine a world with out liberals. But that was a nice try speech.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 11:50 AM
    tomder55
    Foreign Affairs Magazine on the other hand has never been accused of being biased

    Here is their take on outsourcing :

    Foreign Affairs - The Outsourcing Bogeyman - Daniel W. Drezner

    Summary

    According to the election-year bluster of politicians and pundits, the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries has become a problem of epic proportion. Fortunately, this alarmism is misguided. Outsourcing actually brings far more benefits than costs, both now and in the long run. If its critics succeed in provoking a new wave of American protectionism, the consequences will be disastrous -- for the U.S. economy and for the American workers they claim to defend.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 11:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom
    While I respect what he says I can't fully believe it since this townhall website is a little bias I mean it is a conservative website especially since they have tee shirts with a smiley face on it that says imagine a world with out liberals. But that was a nice try speech.

    Featured columnists on that site are:
    Michelle Malkin, a known hate monger: Townhall.com::Columnists::Columnist
    Bill O'Reilly, well we know about Bill
    Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper
    Ann Coulter (see here)


    It's a meeting place for the far right fanatics.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 11:57 AM
    tomder55
    Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper

    Lol I don't think I've ever heard him being accused of being a softy before.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 11:59 AM
    NeedKarma
  • Apr 16, 2008, 12:16 PM
    inthebox
    Part 3: Demographics, Lifestyle and News Consumption: Beyond Red vs. Blue

    Notice how liberals are significantly less likely to own a gun or go to church regularly.
    Granted this is from 2004

    NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

    Obama is the most liberal senator, and keeping with those views he cannot understand how important faith and gun ownership and immigration does matter, even among his own constituents, let alone in a general election.

    He and other liberals, like those in San Francisco that he was speaking to, agree with what he stated and probably do not honestly understand what the big deal is.

    Obama may speak for some, but I wonder how many actually examine his posistions on the issues and make a judgement based on compatible viewpoints versus those who see him as some how different from any other politician because he speaks well or looks good.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 12:22 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Featured columnists on that site are:
    Michelle Malkin, a known hate monger: Townhall.com::Columnists::Columnist
    Bill O'Reilly, well we know about Bill
    Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper
    Ann Coulter (see here)


    It's a meeting place for the far right fanatics.

    I'm always amused at how you guys automatically disregard conservative sources because they're conservative sources... but expect us to be open minded.

    I would have posted his column from his own website but he hadn't posted it there yet. But hey, if you don't want to even consider the facts presented by an accomplished African-American with "a B.A. in economics from California State University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA...a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario," that's up to you. Just don't expect me to be as open minded as you. :D
  • Apr 16, 2008, 12:26 PM
    spitvenom
    That article put a twist on it that I never read before I have to think about my position on this issue now. Seriously Tom thanks for sending that article and I apologize to you speech your article was the same but you know I saw that tee shirt and thought ahhh this is BS.
  • Apr 16, 2008, 12:46 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    Obama is the most liberal senator, and keeping with those views he cannot understand how important faith and gun ownership and immigration does matter, even among his own constittuents, let alone in a general election.


    He's a liberal, but how does that disqualify him for not understanding the importance of "faith?" Did Limbaugh forget about the Wright controversy already including the parts of Obama's follow-up speech where he proclaimed the right and freedom and importance of religion to Americans? Wow! Maybe Ann Coulter doesn't have certain cable channels and didn't see or hear the Compassion forum aired by CNN just the other day? The whole time Obama was praising the rights of Americans that choose their "faith."

    He's a liberal, but Obama not removing all guns from individual ownership. He wanted childproof trigger gaurds, responsible education, and to ban all semi-automatic rifles (which I disagree with).


    He's a liberal, but all three candidates, including the Republican conservative "McCain" who advocates amnesty with a bill that McCain himself sponsored, would end up with basically the same results.

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