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  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:28 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Basically this is correct. Skin tone is not always a good indicator.

    Tut

    But features do... and as pale as I am (Irish, Scottish and German background)... I've known a couple blacks that are lighter than me (well maybe not lighter.. more like as light as me)... I went to school with one for years before I found out she was black...
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:54 AM
    paraclete
    Smoothy, the longer you know them the lighter they become
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:57 AM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    But features do.......and as pale as I am (Irish, Scottish and German background)....I've known a couple blacks that are lighter than me (well maybe not lighter..more like as light as me).....I went to school with one for years before I found out she was black....

    I am not an anthropologist. This is a highly specialized area depending on the area you choose to study. The whole subject of race is up for volumes of debate. The bottom line is that there is no clear cut agreement as to how many human races can be classified under particular types. As far as I am aware some say some say three races some say five races.

    Irish, Scottish and German backgrounds are of course ethnic groups. However a large percentage probably belong to the Caucasian group. As you correctly point out it is the "features" that are the basis of the classification. This method of classification is fraught with problems as well.

    As far as I understand, the classification is based on phenotypes ( how someone looks) rather than genotypes( genetic make up). Some traits are dominant and some recessive. This may explain why someone who is of Negroid background actually looked as light as you.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:09 AM
    talaniman
    No matter the variety of subjective traits there is but one race of humans.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:16 AM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy, the longer you know them the lighter they become


    BRILLIANT!

    It is actually true.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What leads you to believe that?

    How many Chechens are home grown American right-wingers? Do you even bother to read before posting?
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    They look white to me. You need to adjust the controls on your monitor LOL.

    SMH.

    Quote:

    Boston Marathon suspects are of Chechen origin

    The suspects in the attack on the Boston Marathon - one killed, one on the loose - are brothers of Chechen origin, at least one a legal permanent resident of the United States, law enforcement officials told NBC News.

    The suspect at large early Friday was identified as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, born in Kyrgyzstan and holding a Massachusetts driver's license. He was the suspect in the white hat in surveillance photos from the marathon released by the FBI.

    His brother, who was killed in a firefight with law enforcement, was identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, born in Russia. He became a legal permanent resident in 2007, the officials said. He was the suspect in the black hat in the FBI photos.
    Any more questions genius?
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:28 AM
    tomder55
    Commentary: Al-Qaeda's New Hunting Ground | The National Interest
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:47 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy, the longer you know them the lighter they become

    No really. Just the luck of the draw genetically... being she was half black. Her older brother was very dark skinned.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:50 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    BRILLIANT!!

    It is actually true.

    Actually its not true... Fact is I didn't find out she was black until the senior year of high school.when I found out who her brother was.after knowing her as a classmate for 6 years... question never came up... and it was never asked...
  • Apr 19, 2013, 07:00 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    BRILLIANT!!

    It is actually true.

    Should I bow now or would you like more of my sage wisdom?
  • Apr 19, 2013, 07:27 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    should I bow now or would you like more of my sage wisdom?

    Be a waste of time because it isn't at all true.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 07:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Ok, my questions are too hard. Here's an easier one... I say the odds are 4 to 1 that the Boston Bomber was a right wing American nut and not a Jihadist.

    Are you wingers HOPING it wasn't? You're not sure, are you?

    excon

    Well, if these were the guys then you'd have lost that bet. I'm betting the odds are 4-1 that some left-wingers are awfully disappointed this morning.

    Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American
  • Apr 19, 2013, 08:07 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    It's not the first bet I lost.. I'm glad he's not an American.

    excon
  • Apr 19, 2013, 08:21 AM
    talaniman
    The Kaufman killers were Americans. So was that Colorado guy. Win some, lose some?
  • Apr 19, 2013, 09:47 AM
    Wondergirl
    According to the uncle, the younger one (maybe still alive somewhere) had been in this country since 2001, was doing well in school and had a bright future, but his older brother (killed in the shootout early this morning) came to this country about five years ago and began poisoning the younger brother's mind about politics and religion and the U.S. The boys' father is in Chechnya and pleading with the younger one to give up peacefully. Both young men were legal permanent U.S. residents.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 09:52 AM
    smoothy
    Odd since what I've seen the Uncle says he hasn't seen eithe rof them since 2005.

    And the Father was claiming they are innocent and aggels... yeah right... innocent my butt...
  • Apr 19, 2013, 09:57 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Odd since what I've seen the Uncle says he hasn't seen eithe rof them since 2005.

    Why odd? The uncle seemed sure about the characters of the two young men. You don't have to be talking with them on a regular basis to know characters/personalities of your relatives.
    Quote:

    And the Father was claiming they are innocent and aggels... yeah right... innocent my butt...
    Angels? Used to be, as in hard to believe this is what they have become, how they have turned out.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 10:01 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Why odd? The uncle seemed sure about the characters of the two young men. You don't have to be talking with them on a regular basis to know characters/personalities of your relatives.

    Angels? Used to be, as in hard to believe this is what they have become, how they have turned out.

    Their coverage on the uncle is local news here.. being he's about 20 miles from where I am right now in montgomery County MD that borders Whashington, DC.

    They might have been angels as LITTLE kids... but they haven't been for some time obviously.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 10:15 AM
    Wondergirl
    Apparently, the older brother (from what I am hearing) was socially and emotionally disconnected, had no friends, was obsessed with Islam and what was "right." The younger brother had totally become part of the U.S. landscape until his brother started to influence him a few years ago.

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