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Originally Posted by talaniman
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again,
Ok, let's clear this up. I have a say when it doesn't conflict with a right. For example, they don't have a right to smoke, and I believe that I have a right to penalize them for it, or fire them for it if I choose.Quote:
But as long as ex is paying for their health insurance he has a right to have a say in what they do with their bodies.
Where Steve is WRONG to cite me, is that my interest in their lives is NOT moral. It's $$'s and cents. If it need to be said, as long as I'm paying for my MALE'S health care, I am REQUIRED by the constitution of this great land of ours, to pay for my FEMALE'S coverage too. That's just so.
It was a nice switch, though.. You don't like answering my questions lately. You deflect, and skirt. You hide. I've never known you to be so shy.
Excon
Actually Tom you have to sign a consent form for any doctor to share any medical information, and good luck with overturning Roe v Wade since the constitutoinality of a female right to an abortion is firm in the first trimeter, but is illegal after except when the mothers health isn't in danger.
State nullification of federal law will fail and cost somebody a lot of loot.
So if it's about money, it's OK to tell people what to do with their bodies. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Oh, and I DID answer your question
Hello again, Steve:
I hear the wheels turning.. You're wondering WHERE you can use that AGAINST me. I'll give you an opportunity, have no doubt of that.
excon
Obamacare database... you isn't seen nothing yet as to what they can do with the information . Starting next year , your doctor must record your body mass index (BMI), each time he or she treats you and turn it over to the government .Your BMI will then be tracked by HHS . What you saw at CVS this week will be repeated nationwide . The collection of each patient's BMI was so important that it was one of the first directives the department issued after ObamaCare passed. There is a reason for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recently recommended that all obese adults receive "intensive counseling in an effort to rein in a growing health crisis in America" and that they have "intensive, multicomponent behavioral interventions."
Obese adults should get counseling, federal panel says - Los Angeles Times
So what we are looking at is mandatory government intervention if a person is a fatty . If we push this to the logical conclusion that the libs want ;a European style universal system ,this will be the pretext for service denial .
NHS patients refused treatment unless they change their lifestyles | Mail Online
The task force recommendation did not become law.Quote:
Obese adults should get counseling, federal panel says - Los Angeles Times
Thus the line obamacare database ...you aint seen nothing yet as to what they can do with the information ... "intensive, multicomponent behavioral interventions." It's bad enough that corporations are already going to impose these surcharges ,but when the government gets around to denying care ,another blow to liberty will have been struck in this country.
You hate Obama care but its okay to probe females and tell them what to do with their bodies.
And the Dems love Obamacare so much that they just voted to repeal the medical device tax provision of the bill. More to come... I want to see Obama get one of those mandatory interventions for his smoking habit .
You mean like the insurance companies have been doing for years? Yea I know, you'll say that you can change insurance companies but in reality that is not the case at all. It's another fear tactic.Quote:
but when the government gets around to denying care
Don't get excited Tom, it's a very early non binding vote. Got a link to the full bill yet? I watched it on CSpan this morning while I was getting my draft selections ready. I guess the senate can draft a budget.
I've heard that stuff for years and have yet to meet anyone who was insured in the past and denied coverage .
The Senate passed their budget by a vote. But yes ,the vote on the medical device tax was non-binding . It was a CYA vote . Yup ,even Elizabeth Warren voted to repeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Originally Posted by excon
This is scary. If it all comes down to just money then those with lifetime problems or high cost births then it would mean them not being born at all due to the codts that come with it.
DO we start denying cancer care because of the cost ? How about AIDS ? Not to mention other health care problems that can arise throughout a lifetime.
Just a matter of time... and dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Time for an update on the Democrat war on women :
NY Daily Snooze is reporting that low income female employees of the NYC Parks Dept were forced to strip down to the undies and dance around a stripper's pole .
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The clandestine parties were held in a so-called “boom boom” room at a city-owned facility on Randalls Island. And the seasonal workers who “got on the pole” were rewarded with additional work or permanent jobs, sources told The News.
A female worker who attended several of the parties said they got steamier each year.
Female Parks Department workers stripped for permanent jobs, more work at raunchy holiday parties: sources - NY Daily News
This comes in the wake of revelations that a NYC assemblyman made all types of lurid and frankly disgusting advances on his female staff.Quote:
There was never a direct order from Cafaro or Figueroa for the women to participate, according to the female staffers who took their complaints public. But the seasonal workers get asked back for jobs or offered permanent positions based on the recommendations of Cafaro and Figueroa, the workers said.
Many of the women are low-income single mothers, some of whom came into the job through the welfare system and are desperate to keep the seasonal positions that can run anywhere from four to six months at a time.
The most junior positions start at $9, and city seasonal workers, who Benn represents, get $14 an hour. Cafaro tacitly encouraged women to go along with the suggestive atmosphere by rewarding those who stripped down to their skivvies and danced on the pole with more work, said the female staffers.
And of course we get to watch the spectacle of a Weiner campaign . The hubby of Huma Weiner of the Clintoon machine;who notoriously texted pix of his junk to women is attempting a political comeback Today he began advertising for college interns as 'staffers '... another trick he learned from the Clintoons. Their specialty must be in social media skills to help him 'enhance 'his message .Quote:
Eight former Lopez staffers, all young women, described his lurid behavior to state investigators.
Some were forced to massage his body. The cancer-stricken Lopez allegedly rubbed the thighs of others — and even forced one woman to feel his tumors.
Some of the alleged acts took place during car trips to and from Albany, Long Island and Atlantic City,
Pervy pol Vito Lopez could face criminal charges outside Brooklyn: legal experts - NY Daily News
Weiner in job posting seeking interns for mayoral campaign - NYPOST.com
How does that relate to a democratic war on women?
NY is a democrat state . All the pols I mention are Dems In good standing .They talk a good game about protecting women .But in the final analysis ,they are all misogynists.
The ol' "name that party" game when Dems are behaving badly.
Opinions and anecdotes aside it was clear in the last election who the females thought was on their side, and who wasn't.
What you're saying is women like to be treated as helpless Julias and sex objects? That they enjoy being lied to and get paid less than men?
That's not what I am saying. And that's not what the concept of Julia is about. That's not what the woman who voted for the president is about. That not what the minorities who run from you like the plague are about.
You guys are lousy listeners and its biting you in the butt across the land. You aren't listening, just hollering.
All men are lousy listeners but that's another thread. The point of Julia that you guys don't want to admit is your side WANTS women dependent on you just as you do minorities. You don't like strong, independent women because they think for themselves. That's why your side reflexively bashes a Sarah Palin, a Michelle Malkin, an Ann Coulter because they see through your scam and point out the hypocrisy.
Nearly five decades of the left's effort to bring “equality" to women has gotten us what? The nuclear family is destroyed, millions of abortions, millions of children born of single mothers who don't need men living in poverty - 70 percent of high school dropouts are the children of single women - and the only answer you have is more of the same, free birth control, more spending, more government DEPENDENCE.
I understand that by nature women generally WANT someone to nurture, protect and care for them. I happen to believe that should be a responsible man, a father, a husband. Your side believes government should fill that role. Which does more good and less damage? The evidence doesn't point to the liberal agenda, and if they don't vote for my side I can live with that, it's better than lying to them.
Actually, most of don't. We want opportunities that the righties don't want to give us, but, instead, prefer to keep us barefoot and pregnant and with a small allowance so we can grocery shop and cook a nice dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Bullsh*t, I know better and that barefoot and pregnant line is as pathetic today as it was the first time I heard it. I have never seen a little girl that didn't want to be loved, nurtured and protected - until they got into school and had their brains filled with liberal mush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Interesting belief, one I disagree with vehemently.Quote:
All men are lousy listeners
No that's a religious thing such as Promise Keepers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
your side WANTS women dependent on you
It's the message, vitirol and hate they spew not their gender. Same with Limbaugh.Quote:
That's why your side reflexively bashes a Sarah Palin, a Michelle Malkin, an Ann Coulter
Nope, you keep repeating it to make yourself feel better but it's not the case.Quote:
I happen to believe that should be a responsible man, a father, a husband. Your side believes government should fill that role.
I really don't care what drivel you post, it's just lies.
Little boys need to be loved, nurtured, and protected too. That's what a two-parent family is supposed to do, plus the partners validate each other. And don't forget, I'm from a family of Republicans and married into a family of Republicans and actually listen to dinner table and living room conversations about what the role of women is to be. There are many things I haven't been allowed to do (yes, allowed to do!) because I was born in the wrong decade and happen to have the wrong plumbing. Democrats don't seem to care about my plumbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I'm sorry, but that's not my conservative family. We don't talk that way, it's not preached in our conservative church, and I do nearly all the cooking for my wife and daughter, my own laundry, iron my own shirts, sweep, mop, do dishes and clean the toilet if it needs it. And I stand firm on my statement:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
"I have never seen a little girl that didn't want to be loved, nurtured and protected - until they got into school and had their brains filled with liberal mush."
One can still be a strong, independent woman and want the other, too, but the liberal lie says they can't, they don't need a man, they can be promiscuous, it's not really a child so they can kill it at will - yet they need big daddy government - the same big daddy government that pays their female employees less than men, makes them pole dance for a job and get subjected to tweeted pics of their stuff.
Or, as Hitler's mistress, just get sent "back to wherever the hell she came from."
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Former South Carolina Democratic party chairman Harpootlian today attempted to clarify remarks he made Friday at the party’s Jefferson-Jackson dinner when he assured the audience that the Democratic challenger to GOP governor Nikki Haley would “send her back to wherever the hell she came from.”
Many understood Harpootlian’s barb to be directed at Haley’s ethnicity — she is the Indian-American daughter of Sikh immigrants. The longtime Democratic activist immediately waved off such criticism, and today told MSNBC, “All I’m suggesting is she needs to go back to being an accountant in a dress store rather than being this fraud of a governor that we have.”
Haley, who was raised in Bamberg, S.C. previously worked in her parents’ clothing business, Exotica International, and took over the bookkeeping there at the age of 13.
Harpootlian is no stranger to controversy. At last year’s Democratic National Convention, he compared Haley to Hitler’s mistress — after she participated in a press conference from a basement television studio at the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte, N.C. Harpootlian said she was “down in the bunker á la Eva Braun.”
He was replaced as chairman of South Carolina’s Democratic party on Friday.
This thread has reached 1500 posts. Time to start a new one.
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Hello again,
Couple things...
I don't know where this 1500 post limit came from, but it's NOT in the software, and it's NOT in the rules. This is a VIABLE thread discussing important issues of the day. Indeed. There are posts here as recent as yesterday.
For those reasons, the thread is now,
REOPENED
excon
Come on ex move on the whole subject is ad nausium anyway there is no war on women, you should ask about the war on men
“The Whole World in Her Hands”: A Gyno-Maniacal War on Men? – UPDATED
Never mind I'll start a new thread
That was my question, what's the logic in closing a popular thread?
These things have a habit of straying from the point
It's unbelievable the amt of power mods have on this site. This issue is current and is it really relevant if the users create a new thred ,or continue discussions on existing ones ?
Clete ,love the 1st comment on the link
It has finally come to this: Purity is despised while amateur prostitution is elevated to the societal level of a secular virtue.
Another example of this can be found in today's Foreign Policy Magazine. It argues that there is a sexual revolution that has the potential to topple the Iranian regime. This sexual revolution in sum is a drop in birth rates ,more abortions ,more divorces etc. The author seems to argue that these imitations of Western culture is a good thing for the country .
Erotic Republic - By Afshin Shahi | Foreign Policy
Please note the 1500 post limit is site policy and has been for several years.
This is mostly due to search engine spiders.
Feel free to continue in a Part Two.
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