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And what will solve all the problems in Canada?

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You can start a thread for that if you wish. I'm not sure how any of our issues affect your gun control debate. We do have problems with low maple syrup production last year and the coming one.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You can start a thread for that if you wish. I'm not sure how any of our issues affect your gun control debate. We do have problems with low maple syrup production last year and the coming one.

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And I have no idea how your constant digs at the US is productive for anything other than keeping your ego inflated.

It wasn't a dig at the US. It was a rational opinion of what the solution does or does not entail.

Does more guns fix the violence problem? Does less guns fix it?

Keeping guns out of criminal hands is the problem,and straw purchases outside the cities that ban those guns is what needs an immediate fix. Many mayors including in Chicago have recognized these conditions as making their problem a bigger one. Poverty is another. Probably the biggest driver for losing youth to alternative lifestyles that do more harm than good.

I may be for parents having MORE influence over choices by their kids, but lets face it, those parents indeed fall short themselves and often face failed support systems within their communities that adds to an already bad problem. I mean kids know when they are not being supervised properly, and when they are left to their own devices regularly, its easy to see
How they can be led astray,or seek out what an absent parent does not provide.

If you think that more guns and less government is the answer, you are asking for disaster. Its much more complex than spending less on people and more for business, and small government. That may sound perfect if you already have something to build on but leaves behind those who have had nothing to build on or look forward to for generations.

It use to be a thoughtful balance between the right and left, now the right is adamant that we go all the way their way for a weak effective government, and profits before people. And only a few, including the right wingers can survive in such an environment.

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Keeping guns out of criminal hands is the problem

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I think that ship has sailed. There are enough guns in circulation in the US to make that option almost impossible to successfully work.

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Keeping guns out of criminal hands is the problem,and straw purchases outside the cities that ban thosse guns is what needs an immediate fix. Many mayors including in Chicago have recognized these conditions as making their problem a bigger one. Poverty is another.

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Dude, you raise Chicago as an example?

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Originally Posted by Tuttyd

Have you intentionally left something out of the sentence? Is there something that doesn't need to be included in this sentence?

Ellipsis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Yeah. The fact that lefties really don't care much about what the law is, or what the Constitution or BIll of Rights says. They will say anything they want because in their imaginary world anything they want at that immediate moment is what they feel it SHOULD be.

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I think that ship has sailed. There are enough guns in circulation in the US to make that option almost impossible to successfully work.

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You actually believe that crap? At the volumes they ship drugs to keep you brothers and sisters satisfied you think guns wouldn't be able to be moved with the same degree of efficiency? Or that under or unemployed mechanics, metalworkers and machinists couldn't make them domestically?

THe reality is if you took metalshop in high school and didn't flunk out with basic metalworking tools Joe Average could easily fabricate a crude but effective machine gun with hand tools and scrap metal... with a fully functioning supressor.

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THe reality is if you took metalshop in high school and didn't flunk out with basic metalworking tools Joe Average could easily fabricate a crude but effective machine gun with hand tools and scrap metal... with a fully functioning supressor.

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Funny that, I don't remember many news reports that say the murder was committed with a homemade gun. LOL. More nonsense.

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THe reality is if you took metalshop in high school and didn't flunk out with basic metalworking tools Joe Average could easily fabricate a crude but effective machine gun with hand tools and scrap metal.....with a fully functioning supressor.

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Or a 3D printer...

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Or a 3D printer...

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It uses somewhat malleable plastic but I guess that could be used as mold.

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Funny that, I don't remember many news reports that say the murder was committed with a homemade gun. LOL. More nonsense.

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Well you have just proven you are worse informed and more clueless about this than you even appear to be...

Try Google... you will be surprised what you can turn up. You might even find it enlightening. Detailed Plans and drawings. And the truly inept can forgo making their own gun and just make their own explosives... that would require even less skill or ability... that latter being something that would be easier for the average liberal to pull off anyway.

Because after all... we know crime doesn't exist in Canada... everyone leaves their keys in their cars, houses unlocked and banks don't need safes. Nobody cooks up Meth or other drugs, it's a veritable Utopia...

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Try Google... you will be surprised what you can turn up.

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All right, show me reports.

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It uses somewhat malleable plastic but I guess that could be used as mold.

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Functional gus have been already printed using 3D printers (I know of only a couple however thus far)... most commercial guns use forgings... not castings... castings are inherently weak.

You would use a mold for a casting... forgings require dies which require a great deal of skill to make. Well beyond someone working in their basement or garage.

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Functional gus have been printed using 3D printers.

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Ok, show me some proof.

Homemade Gun Technology Vexes Effort to Control Weapons

I know the theory exists. Smoothy is trying to say that people are already doing it and committing crimes with these weapons. Which is not the case but he persists with it.

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I know the theory exists. Smoothy is trying to say that people are already doing it and committing crimes with these weapons. Which is not the case but he persists with it.

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Typical liberal... puting words in other peoples mouths...


Show me where exactly I said crimes were already be committed using 3d printer created guns?

What I said was there have been several functional guns made with 3d printers. Its not theory... its already been done several times so its scientific fact, it stops being theory once its been done and proven to work.

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Funny that, I don't remember many news reports that say the murder was committed with a homemade gun. LOL. More nonsense.

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Well you have just proven you are worse informed and more clueless about this than you even appear to be....

Try Google...you wil be surprised what you can turn up. You might even find it enlightening.

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Still waiting.

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Still waiting.

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Um, "homemade" does not necessarily mean with a 3D printer. People have used "homemade" guns for a long, long time and yes, to commit crimes.

Apparently that's hasn't an issue for a long, long time? Why is it allowed? Likely because very. Very few people have actually done this.

Still waiting for smoothy to wow me with his Google finds.