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My mil was no longer driving and had allowed her driver's license to lapse. She thus had no valid ID and would have been turned away at certain polling places.
Many people in Chicago use public transportation or walk (i.e. don't own a car) and thus do not have a driver's license (valid ID).
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I was quite clear with my objection to the way you guys tried to implement the voter ID requirements, it sucked, but now you have two years to get it right and I expect a better rollout than the last attempt.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
As for the guys attempting to intimidate voters, did you also notice that people ignored them? Unlike True The Vote who vowed to intimidate voters and did indeed spark purges of voter rolls.
BS... thats a lame excuse... because the true votes were wswamped by repeat votes.. votes by dead people... votes by illegals...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
If there were TRUE votes out there... Obama would have lost by a landslide.
Says YOU!!
You're the one that brought up jumping through hoops and literacy tests:Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
If EVERYONE has the same rules what's the beef, only blacks have problems with transportation, ID and registering?Quote:
And the hoops many may have to jump through because they lack a car, or a birth certificate, or the multiple forms that need to be filled out do eerily echo literacy tests.
We have already argued those points so let move on. You guys lost the bid to rig the last election, and lost they election period. So lets get to the next rigging attempt with the electoral college and expanding section 5.
Expand sec 5 ? Nahh ,we want it gone. The Dems want to punish certain states and locals forever . You may say that the Dems aren't opposed to voter ID ;but I haven't heard one major Dem come out in support of voter id efforts..
Yep, "progressives" can't see the irony in rejecting progress and treating some states and districts with prejudice in the name of impartiality.
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Its in court fellas, and I doubt the bringer of the suit (Sheby Co, AL) can sufficiently defend the 240 cases of documented violations of the voter rights act, since 2005.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I seriously doubt that SCOTUS will see this as a punishment either since anyone can apply for a bailout, and many have succeeded in getting relief from being under Section 5. Republicans should be punished, and harshly for election shenanigans. I mean 150 years after Lincoln and 6 months after the movie, Mississippi finally takes slavery off the books? Really?
Guess we have to wait for the decision.
Right after Obama gets harshly punished for his shenanigans and his personal involvement with Acorn... Right?
Hello again, smoothy:
You forget to mention that he's a Kenyon...
excon
Kenyan... Nigerian... same difference... both are crooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
What is kenyon, a cousin to canyon? If you are speaking of Obama ancestry it is Kenyan, now if you are being satyrical and suggesting Obama is an abyss, you may be right
I was going to correct the spelling, but I usually leave this board alone (since you all understand each other despite misspellings and typos).Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I understand everything but every now and then an opportunity presents...
He's that too... however more like a black hole than an abyss... because the black hole sucks in and consumes absolutely everything near it... an abyss sits their and waits for stuff to fall in.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
We would be far better off if he was just an abyss.
For what, requiring an ID? What the hell, Tal? Why shouldn't Dems be punished for election shenanigans? Why should Holder have dismissed the New Black Panthers case he had already won?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I amin favor of NATIONAL ID cards for anyone with a SS card period, and if its biometric so much the better but as far as 6 to 8 months before an election? No way should major changes be made. Its an unfair burden for the populace. I am perplexed at why someone who holllers about their rights, the churches rights, and rich peoples rights, that you could so blatantly interfere in the rights of citizens to vote. Explain your prejudice please, and your god awful hurry to change the rules in the middle of the stream.
As to the embellishing the incident you label as a threat by TWO people, one a certified poll watcher, and completely be silent about the repubs registration fiasco is quite beyond my understanding too.
New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
GOP voter registration scandal widens - Salon.comQuote:
The incident drew the attention of police, who around 10:00 am, sent King Samir away in part because of his billy club. Jackson was allowed to stay, in part because he was a certified poll watcher.[7] Stephen Robert Morse, a journalist and filmmaker, upon arriving at the scene, pulled out a Flip video camera and focused on Samir Shabazz. Morse turned over the video of the incident to ElectionJournal.org.[8] The incident gained national attention after being uploaded to YouTube.[2]
No complaints were filed by voters about the incident, although poll watchers witnessed some voters approach the polls and then turn away, apparently in response to the New Black Panther Party members.[9]
How you equate an incident, minor on its face, and isolated with a deliberate plot to commit voter fraud is a mystery to me. You want integrity in voting? Then start with your own party, and demand better.Quote:
A man originally reported to have been working for the Republican Party of Virginia was arrested by the Rockingham County, Va. Sheriff's Office on Thursday and charged with attempting to destroy voter registration forms by tossing them into a dumpster behind a shopping center in Harrisonburg, Va.
Dude, whenever you're ready to talk based on reality, I'm here. I will not keep wasting my time answering to positions you assign to me.
Hello again,
Isn't this the thread where you righty's CONVICTED Senator Menendez based solely on a right wing blog? I think it IS.
In any case, looks like that sleaze bag Tucker Carlson set the whole thing up, kind of like Breitbart did a couple of times...
I suggested that you WAIT before you convict him.. But, you NEVER listen to reason.
excon
And you say this while convicting Tucker Carlson of setting him up without a shred of evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
P.S. Washington Post report confuses one prostitute with another in bid to debunk Menendez allegations
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/wa...#ixzz2MgTAoeac
Heck... what about RatherGate where CBS fabricated evidence and tried and convicted Bush on TV and Radio for something he never didQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Heck, they still convict Repubs of everything but being human on these pages every day.
Hello again, Steve:
Let me see, the Daily Caller vs The Washington Post... Hmmmm... Who to pick?? Hmmmm.. Well, it's hard, but I pick the Washington Post.
excon
Right.. the Washington Compost , the lefty political propaganda outlet... who would have guessed.
THere is a good reason their readership numbers have been in free fall... just like the New York Times.
Ad its because they are such blatant left wing hacks.
When you get all the names and everything sorted out, let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) held a one-sided town hall meeting on gun violence (panelists were the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence) . Apparently he didn't he didn't care for his actual constituency participating in the discussion:
Jim Moran is a crook that should be in jail... ask anyone that not in his district... heck.. ask a lot of people IN his district.
I know someone real well that used to work for him... but doesn't any more because they got tired of his crap and quit.
Hello again, Steve:
Yeah, what a hypocrite??
Look. I don't carry water for the Democrats, but you LOVE to single out bizarro Democrats and post stuff about them as though they represent WHO the Democrats are. You're wrong.
But, when I point out stuff that Michell Bachmann says that represent WHO the Republicans are, I'm RIGHT! The FACT is, the Republican party has moved right - WAYYYYY right. So right, in fact, that your hero Ronald Reagan would be considered a liberal by today's right wing.
The left, on the other hand, has remained steadfastly left of center. That's what Obama is, after all - a center left Democrat. Deal with it.
excon
Obamas not a center anything... there isn't a single centrist policy or stand he's ever taken on anything. He makes Bill Clinton look like a hard core Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello smoothy:
Yet no Obama supporters can quote Obamas centrist actions and policies... because there are none.
I have no idea what your little rant has to do with another example of Dems waging war on women. I got to hand it to you though, for a guy that raises hell about every obscure proposal or idiotic thing a Republican says that was a pretty ballsy rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
I was, wasn't it? I thoroughly enjoyed it too.Quote:
that was a pretty ballsy rant.
Excon
I always enjoy your rants. They don't usually amount too much but you do it with passion and I can admire that.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
The war continues!
Just this month, we got right wingers in Arkansas, North Dakota and Kansas competing against themselves about who can pass the most unconstitutional antiabortion law - and they DID. Those states have virtually OUTLAWED abortion - which is, of course, BLATANTLY unconstitutional.. I thought right wingers LOVED the Constitution. No, huh?
Oh yeah, the dreaded way up inside a women vaginal probe makes a comeback, too. If you need links, I can provide them.. But, I don't think you'll argue that these states AREN'T doing that. I think you'll argue that they're hero's because they're saving babies..
But, then there's this Constitution thing...
excon
Have you even read the Conservative Constitution, Ex? They have a right to probe woman's privates. And the state has a right to tell you who is equal, who is NOT, and what men can do to pursue their own happiness.
All men are created equal, and that means white and conservative. No ex slaves or gardeners, and NO women! Lincoln is dead and states rights are back. Now get with the program.
Listen to conservatives tell you about their rights and you have none, except what they tell you you have. What's so hard about that?
But as long as ex is paying for their health insurance he has a right to have a say in what they do with their bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You are a bad influence over ex.
If the laws passed are in your view unconstitutional then of course the courts will over-rule them . But I don't believe they are unconstitutional based on the Roe v Wade decision. In my view ,that ruling is ripe for reversal . Don't tell me as a supporter of Obamacare that you give a fig about the 14th amendment due process 'right to privacy ' that was the justification for the decision... and as you are aware ,even the Roe decision decided that the state has legitimate interests in protecting both the pregnant woman's health and the potentiality of human life at various stages of pregnancy.
So unless you tell me that the invasive aspects of Obamacare like the state maintaining a medical data base based on mandatory extraction of information in violation of the doctor -patient relationship ,are unconstitutional... then I don't buy your belief that a women's right to privacy are violated by state laws restricting abortion.
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