Talaniman: You have to watch the DMVs: SOME OF THEM ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED! N.C., for example, allows illegal aliens the right to obtain a driver's license....if they can get a driver's license, they will be allowed to vote....I don't think that is what you want, do you?

N.C. has traded its soul in return for cheap labor to fill construction sites, chicken processing plants, truck farms and other agricultural practices, fill resorts grounds keeping, and staff hotel maid services.....at some point, I hope N.C. pays a price for its flagrant violation of law and for EXPLOITING laborers.

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You must not have read it. It was factually a bunch of nonsense.

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That's one reason that it has gone on so long, and been successful. Of course you aren't exactly known for fact checking or recognizing evidence, But voter suppression of minorities is a much bigger problem than voter fraud ever was and we know the big stink conservatives make over that.

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You must not be listening to many of the democrats.

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So easy for you to dismiss the problem of voter ID shenanigans by repubs without even doing your research on the practice. Start with your neighbor Alabama, and don't forget your own state. Georgia and Florida are good examples and you tell me if this is about having an ID. Seems a southern boy like yourself would know the tricks of the trade using voter ID laws to hide behind. I mean purging thousands of people because you wrote a law that allows it is pretty despicable.

Legalized cheating to affect election outcomes. Remember this?

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Talaniman: You have to watch the DMVs: SOME OF THEM ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED! N.C., for example, allows illegal aliens the right to obtain a driver's license....if they can get a driver's license, they will be allowed to vote....I don't think that is what you want, do you?

N.C. has traded its soul in return for cheap labor to fill construction sites, chicken processing plants, truck farms and other agricultural practices, fill resorts grounds keeping, and staff hotel maid services.....at some point, I hope N.C. pays a price for its flagrant violation of law and for EXPLOITING laborers.

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Unless a driver license automatically registers you to vote I can't see that happening. Please elaborate.

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So easy for you to dismiss the problem of voter ID shenanigans by repubs without even doing your research on the practice. Start with your neighbor Alabama, and don't forget your own state. Georgia and Florida are good examples and you tell me if this is about having an ID. Seems a southern boy like yourself would know the tricks of the trade using voter ID laws to hide behind. I mean purging thousands of people because you wrote a law that allows it is pretty despicable.

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First you said, "nobody minds IDs", but now you fall back on the dem talking point that voter ID laws are somehow racism in practice. Strange how requiring an ID for tobacco or alcohol is not racist, but voter ID somehow is. If someone is too sorry to get off their lazy rear end and get a free ID card, then they don't deserve to vote. I have no sympathy for them at all, and I pay no attention to any argument that requiring an ID is some form of racism. It's basically saying that minorities are too dumb to know how to get some form of ID. I don't believe they are.

Besides, voter ID laws do not suppress voter turnout. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...rnout-n2541344

Talaniman: No, in N.C. the illegals can get a D.L.....if they get a D.L., they can vote....pretty screwed-up! There are 750,000 illegals in N.C., that we know about!

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Talaniman: No, in N.C. the illegals can get a D.L.....if they get a D.L., they can vote....pretty screwed-up! There are 750,000 illegals in N.C., that we know about!

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now that explains the demonrat vote

The only voter fraud case I know of was done by repubs and caused a revote in NC, Vac. Or else it goes down as another exagerated story about illegals since an application is required to register just like in most states. In other words repubs are at it again.

Shortly after the elections, then-Gov. Pat McCrory tried to challenge his loss to Cooper by making claims about voter fraud. Part of his campaign’s strategy was to accuse several dozen North Carolina residents of voting illegally. However, many of those allegations were ruled to be baseless, and some of the voters who were falsely accused of committing voter fraud later sued McCrory’s campaign for libeling them.
Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/po...#storylink=cpy

Happy Brexit . The Brits and America celebrate together . The Brits leave the EU and the Dem coup attempt snuffed .

The forces of the right march on to victory, creeping socialism bested again

The turtle did the Dem Senators a huge favor today by ending the session before the final vote. He could've dragged it through the weekend preventing Sanders ,Warren and Klobuchar the opportunity to campaign in Iowa ahead of the caucus ealy next week . You think they will appreciate it ? Nah

The fix was in for the dufus and everybody knew it. No surprise for this sham trial. I don't think its over though even if the Bolton book may not get published on time.

goes along with the House Sham impeachment . now if the Dems were smart ;they would find common ground with the President for projects they can pass .But they won't . So the Turtle should schedule the final vote on Tuesday afternoon a couple hours before the SOTU address. What a hoot !!

btw ;I fully expect the final vote to have at least 3 Dems voting to acquit .....most likely Joe Manchin ,Kyrsten Sinema and Doug Jones .

and I hope Mittens is content being a one term Senator. He will get primaried .

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goes along with the House Sham impeachment . now if the Dems were smart ;they would find common ground with the President for projects they can pass .But they won't . So the Turtle should schedule the final vote on Tuesday afternoon a couple hours before the SOTU address. What a hoot !!

btw ;I fully expect the final vote to have at least 3 Dems voting to acquit .....most likely Joe Manchin ,Kyrsten Sinema and Doug Jones .

and I hope Mittens is content being a one term Senator. He will get primaried .

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The demonrats finding common ground with Trump, wash your mouth out Tom, just the thought of it brings a rush of blood to the head. Pelosi's grap for power is over and let us contemplate the possibility that she might be thrown out on her ear in the election, she has been there too long

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goes along with the House Sham impeachment . now if the Dems were smart ;they would find common ground with the President for projects they can pass .But they won't . So the Turtle should schedule the final vote on Tuesday afternoon a couple hours before the SOTU address. What a hoot !!

btw ;I fully expect the final vote to have at least 3 Dems voting to acquit .....most likely Joe Manchin ,Kyrsten Sinema and Doug Jones .

and I hope Mittens is content being a one term Senator. He will get primaried .

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The vote is Wednesday to acquit and Romney owns the dufus hating Utah. Dems may just have gotten extra motive to tip the senate, but you know nothing gets done during an election year. Then there will be the study drip in the news that the dufus might not like.

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The demonrats finding common ground with Trump, wash your mouth out Tom, just the thought of it brings a rush of blood to the head. Pelosi's grap for power is over and let us contemplate the possibility that she might be thrown out on her ear in the election, she has been there too long

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Don't be surprised if dems hold the house whether or not Pelosi remains the leader or not. Even most repubs though know the dufus is a crook, but the NEED him to keep their jobs and everybody knows that too.

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and therein you find their motive for this charade . They even found today before the vote ,a women who claims that Trump raped her 40 years ago in a Department Store Dressing Room …...AND she still has the unlaundered dress !!! So she wants Trump's DNA tested . You can't make this stuff up ! She waits until the decisive day of the impeachment trial to make this claim . Trump was Kavanaughed …or is it Clintooned ?

Demos have been exposed for all to see.]

The Demos will lose the House....Senate will remain Repub.....Trump will win by a landslide.

The Right is on the march around the world.....its a new day.

Romney is certainly a wishy-washy, spineless embarrassment of a man. SOOOO thankful Obama won the POTUS over him: He would have been a disaster.

Boy if this hand delivered cover up assistance of the dufus sends you guys spinning in circles of glee, you can imagine what the dufus victory lap will look like. I still have that one term president crack by Moscow Mitch ringing in my ears. He was the minority leader then, but intentions very clear. He failed even as repubs took over the congress, and the senate became the most obstructive body in history in 2012 denying Obama a SCOTUS pick, or any other legislative victory with Obama care attacked so many times we lost count.

I suppose this victory lap was overdue and self deserved though as we enter the primaries. and brace for more dufus shenanigans. You don't think this will be the last test of how far the repubs have sunk do you? Or this was the last gasp at THIS atrocity did you? No on all accounts

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why am I not suprised the Dems won't accept the results that Trump will be legitimately acquited of all the phony charges . The never accepted his legitimate electoral college victory . They still don't accept there was no collusion even after their hand picked prosecutor found nothing . They have never accepted his offers to work across the aisle even though he has many same visions of spending priorities . Will their temper tantrum ever end ? They have already set the stage to reject his coming landslide 2020 victory . When he swears in January next year Pelosi will look at him and say ……"well you are still impeached for life …..nananana ".

A fearful hatred has a lot to do with it. He derailed their anointed one and they haven't gotten over it yet. To make matters worse (in their view), the country is doing well in many respects and Trump is chipping away at their historic ownership of the black vote. They are both angry and afraid, and that's a bad combination. The dem party seems to have been taken over by an ideologically extreme left wing faction. It will be interesting to see where that takes them. You even have Warren going about saying she will have a 9 year old transgender child do the vetting for her sec of education. It's just off the charts crazy.