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  • Jan 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    blaming Republicans for not wanting to keep Obamacare
    Which is silly since the Repubs main goal is to destroy ACA.
  • Jan 27, 2014, 01:08 PM
    smoothy
    Most democrats don't want it either... not to mention most Independents. In fact there is no group that has a majority that actually wants it... outside of non-voting, non-taxpaying illegal aliens.
  • Jan 30, 2014, 09:44 PM
    paraclete
    that would be the majority of the 1% would it, the majority of the money? what group actually has a majority in your country? the Jews? the blacks? the hispanics? the wasps? the aged? the employed? the racists? oh I know it's welfare recipricants. I quess you could say they don't want it if it costs money

    What is interesting is that the republicans arn't the majority, at least not on the basis of the votes cast for the President, in fact they only represent white interests and so are steadily losing in the support stakes
  • Feb 4, 2014, 11:52 AM
    speechlesstx
    Good news, the CBO projects Obamacare will effect 3 times as many jobs as previously projected...

    Quote:

    The Affordable Care Act is projected to reduce the number of full-time workers by roughly 2.3 million people through 2021 and insure 2 million fewer people this year than previously estimated, the Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday.

    The CBO had previously estimated the labor force impact would be around 800,000 people in that time frame. …

    The rolling impact of the law will lead to 2 million fewer workers in 2017, 2.3 million in 2021 and 2.5 million through 2024, the CBO forecast. This represents a 1.5% to 2.0% reduction in the numbers of hours worked. …CBO attributed the law’s projected labor force impact to several factors. This included an impact on labor supply from an employer penalty in the law and “an effect from encouraging part-year workers to delay returning to work in order to retain their insurance subsidies,” among other things.
    I'm thinking it may be about time to just quit my job and go all in on government handouts.
  • Feb 4, 2014, 01:01 PM
    talaniman
    Your wife will put a boot up your arse if you do.
  • Feb 4, 2014, 01:02 PM
    NeedKarma
    Become a politician and suck up to tons of lobbyists! That's the way to the bank!
  • Feb 4, 2014, 05:45 PM
    Tuttyd
    "I'm thinking of quitting my job and go all in on government handouts"

    Better still become a CEO or something similar and get upper class welfare.
    It pays a lot better.
  • Feb 4, 2014, 06:44 PM
    paraclete
    it's not easy Tutt you have to be aboriginal, deaf, blind and stupid
  • Feb 5, 2014, 07:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Remember when Obamacare was going to be a job creator? Good times, good times...

    FLASHBACK: Pelosi Says Obamacare Will “Create 4 Million Jobs, 400,000 Almost Immediately”… | Weasel Zippers

    Now that the CBO has projected a couple million fewer jobs thanks to Obamacare, how do you suppose the WH would spin this? It's a positive thing. I guess that's what Obama meant when he talked up "opportunity" in his SOTU speech, Obamacare gives the "opportunity" - er, "choice" to stay home with the wife and kids more and suck off the government teat and enjoy our "freedom."

    Quote:

    "It’s not anything but an added choice that they have that allows them more freedom, to use a certain buzzword, more choice," he said.

    ...

    The White House called this "positive" because, the Washington Times said, "it means Americans will forgo jobs or extra work to stay home with their children or strike out on their own as entrepreneurs."
    Ah, choice. Shame we may not have the choice to keep our full time jobs, or to the choice to not pay thousands more in premiums and deductibles, or the choice to keep our doctors, but we can darn sure choose to become like Greece now.
  • Feb 5, 2014, 01:28 PM
    paraclete
    You chose that path long ago
  • Feb 5, 2014, 02:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Not me.
  • Feb 5, 2014, 03:05 PM
    talaniman
    The facts:

    CBO director: Obamacare will reduce unemployment

    More FACTS:

    CBO | The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2014 to 2024

    No, CBO did not say Obamacare will kill 2 million jobs

    Eric Cantor's False Claims Against CBO Report Debunked
  • Feb 5, 2014, 03:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    So if we're all wrong why are the White House and congressional Dems spinning this to make it sound so positive? People get to "choose" to work less and suck off the government more, that's what I said and that's not a good thing.
  • Feb 5, 2014, 03:44 PM
    talaniman
    Oil and retail suck more, much more, and that's okay with you?
  • Feb 5, 2014, 05:57 PM
    paraclete
    Speech, you are going to have to get used to the idea that people get to work less, this is the inevitable result of sending jobs offshore and the changing nature of work. Unfortunately there are employers who will exploit this by making those who have employment work longer hours without extra remuneration
  • Feb 6, 2014, 06:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    What part of obamacare creates disincentives to work do you not get, how is that a good thing and what does it have to do with oil? Focus, Tal.
  • Feb 6, 2014, 07:39 AM
    excon
    Hello Steve:

    Wealth creates a disincentive to work, too. But, I don't hear you sniveling about that.

    excon
  • Feb 6, 2014, 07:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    Wealth creates a disincentive to work, too. But, I don't hear you sniveling about that.

    excon

    One can support themselves and the other can't.
  • Feb 6, 2014, 08:01 AM
    tomder55
    I rarely see a wealthy person stop working just because they don't need to do it for financial stability . If anything they are often even more motivated .
  • Feb 6, 2014, 08:19 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Quote:

    I rarely see a wealthy person stop working just because they don't need to do it for financial stability . If anything they are often even more motivated .
    I rarely see a poor person refrain from working just because they're getting benefits. If anything, being poor acts as a big motivator.

    Of course, my view of the world doesn't reflect the right wings view. You see a welfare queen everywhere you look.

    excon

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