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Don't blame your wanting to murder someone on rednecks and Republicans, you gotta own that one.

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Maybe it's genes from my German ancestors who were farmers and Lutheran pastors.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Maybe it's genes from my German ancestors who were farmers and Lutheran pastors.

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No, you got to own that comment.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No, you gotta own that comment.

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But she was so annoying! It's her fault. She made me want to do it!

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Chi-town cops ... don't call us .

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Also, Chicago will be focusing on time-tested “softer” approaches to youth violence, including connecting isolated young people with adult mentors, treating violence as a public health problem, offering new jobs programs for unemployed teens, and coordinating resources for at-risk kids in schools. Basketball has become a way to get gangs to meet and greet and cooperate and socialize.

Good luck with that . You should really consider Stop and Frisk. NYC with a much bigger population has fewer murders . And before anyone who supports violations of the 2nd amendment gets on a soap box about 4th amendment violations ;stop and frisk has already been adjudicated in SCOTUS. (Terry v. Ohio)

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But she was so annoying! It's her fault. She made me wanna do it!

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You're just digging the hole deeper.

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good luck with that . You should really consider Stop and Frisk. NYC with a much bigger population has fewer murders . And before anyone who supports violations of the 2nd amendment gets on a soap box about 4th amendment violations ;stop and frisk has already been adjudicated in SCOTUS. (Terry v. Ohio)

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Its approval is very limited. So how does it stop anything? Is it just the thought they can be found out that is holding the perps at bay ?

Yes ,it's approval is indeed limited ,but successful.

There was a 19% decrease in the number of murders last year.
NYC has had 414 murders so far in 2012, down 18.5%, NYPD credits

The use went down as the murder rate dropped.

I think it's the deterrence that makes a difference. Critics argue that it disproportionately targets minorities and minority communities. That may be true. But 2 factors should be considered . The 1st is that these areas are the high crime areas. Also it is the minority communities that are more often the victims of these murders. 90 percent of the persons murdered in New York are black or Hispanic young men, those are the people whose lives are being saved .

Hello again,

Why mess around with stop and frisk? I'd go full on police state.. That'll stop crime.. They're BOTH against the 4th Amendment, but if you're going to VIOLATE it, you might as well be EFFECTIVE..

excon

From the one that accepts violations of the 2nd .Gee why not go all out and ban all guns... That would be much more effective .

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from the one that accepts violations of the 2nd .Gee why not go all out and ban all guns... That would be much more effective .

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Finally! You see things my way!!

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Hello again,

Why mess around with stop and frisk?? I'd go full on police state.. That'll stop crime.. They're BOTH against the 4th Amendment, but if you're gonna VIOLATE it, you might as well be EFFECTIVE..

excon

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Not going to work.. not without a full on armed rebellion (that's WHY we have a 2nd amendment for in the first place). And not even most of the lefties are going to back that when the realize they aren't exempted from it.

How many rounds would a merchant need to deter this ?
Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave Neighborhoods Worried « CBS New York

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how many rounds would a merchant need to deter this ?
Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave Neighborhoods Worried « CBS New York

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One man with an ozizi should be enough as long as he is prepared to stand trial for multiple cases of premeditated murder. You see Tom there is self defense and there there is something else, probably one shot fired in the air is enough to stop it in its tracks but if one offender has a gun...

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how many rounds would a merchant need to deter this ?
Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave Neighborhoods Worried « CBS New York

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Makes me very thankful for where I live.

I agree karma we should be thankfull for such mercies

Unfortunately their problem won't be solved by more guns or less guns.

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one man with an ozizi should be enough as long as he is prepared to stand trial for multiple cases of premeditated murder. You see Tom there is self defense and there there is something else, probably one shot fired in the air is enough to stop it in its tracks but if one offender has a gun......

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That wouldn't be premeditated murder... that would be self defense... HUGE difference between the two.

Very few places does the attacker HAVE to even have a weapon before you can use deadly force to protect yourself or property.

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That wouldn't be premeditated murder...that would be self defense....HUGE difference between the two.

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Have you intentionally left something out of the sentence? Is there something that doesn't need to be included in this sentence?

Ellipsis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Unfortunately their problem won't be solved by more guns or less guns.

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And what will solve all the problems in Canada?