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Originally Posted by talaniman

Relax its just the beginning. I guess you are too young to remember how long it took for a gun control bill to pass the last time.

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If Zero wants to keep blathering about something that several of your Dems don't want to deal with again on an issue that 96 percent of the country thinks ain't so important, go for it.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:

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Think I'm kidding... anyone that wants to suspend the bill of rights... deserves getting shot.

Hello again, smoothy:

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Think I'm kidding... anyone that wants to suspend the bill of rights... deserves getting shot.

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I'm a supporter of the Bill of Rights.. If someone wants to suspend them, I'm right WITH you...

However, a background check that would stop a person like ME from getting guns, is NOT a suspension of the Bill of Rights.. I don't care WHAT your latest email says.

Actually, NOT doing that is VERY, VERY criminal friendly.. I didn't know you cared so much for FELONS.

Excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I'm a supporter of the Bill of Rights.. If someone wants to suspend them, I'm right WITH you...

However, a background check that would stop a person like ME from getting guns, is NOT a suspension of the Bill of Rights.. I don't care WHAT your latest email says.

Actually, NOT doing that is VERY, VERY criminal friendly.. I didn't know you cared so much for FELONS.

excon

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Except that isn't what its all about. Its all about a backdoor gun registry, the only reason for a gun registry is so they know who has what so their jackbooted thugs can start taking them by force.

Hello again, smoothy:

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Its all about a backdoor gun registry,

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That IS what the emails are telling you, isn't it? It's just not so.

Politifact says,

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An email circulated to Arizona residents claims a bill before the Senate "is proposing the universal registration of all firearms and their owners." The bill expands background checks to most gun transfers. But federal rules forbid the government from keeping a record of successful background checks for more than a day. The ACLU argues it's possible the bill creates a new type of record for some sales that may not be subject to the ban, but that's not the same thing as "universal registration of all firearms and their owners." We rate the claim False.

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Excon

There is also this --

snopes.com: Handgun Safety and Registration Act

Yeah, I know you guys hate snopes.

No it doesn't explicitly create a universal gun registry but even the ACLU guy acknowledges a loophole that leaves the door open.

"I don't think it's a crazy idea to say that if the records exist, there would be a push to use them for other things," Calabrese said.

I find a lot more truth to that than your "war on women."

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

There is also this --

snopes.com: Handgun Safety and Registration Act

Yeah, I know you guys hate snopes.

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That was something from 4 years ago. A little late now.

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Originally Posted by cdad

That was something from 4 years ago. Alittle late now.

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Refer to excon's post.

(I'm in a state of emergency with news helicopters swarming over my house, so forgive my lack of timeliness.)

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Refer to excon's post.

(I'm in a state of emergency with news helicopters swarming over my house, so forgive my lack of timeliness.)

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For 4 years they've been swarming over your house?

Hello again,

If the background check that failed is SOOO dangerous, why isn't the CURRENT background check? You probably went through it yourself. If ONE is tyranny, why isn't the other?

excon

So we already have background checks, got it.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

If the background check that failed is SOOO dangerous, why isn't the CURRENT background check? You probably went through it yourself. If ONE is tyranny, why isn't the other?

excon

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As you pointed out in what you posted earlier. As of right now the records aren't collected by the federal government and must be destroyed. In that bill discussed in the article it opens a new door that may allow it to be kept.

Now before you start ranting on paranoia Im going to say this. 3 times I watched as a government entity was given certain powers and then took those to a whole different level. 2 of them are still in affect and one was stricken down by the high courts.

So now we stand at a nationwide junction. We need to tread lightly and make sure we cover the bases to get anything passed. All they really need to do is put in the simplist language and it would be over. But nah those politicians need a job and so do all their lawyer friends. So its not going to happen the easy way.

Legislate in haste, repent at leisure...

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

So we already have background checks, got it.

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Not for private sales at gun shows.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

For 4 years they've been swarming over your house?

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No, we're in a horrible flood situation.

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Not for private sales at gun shows.

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You do know that the "gun show loophole" is a total myth right?

It doesn't exist except in the minds of politicians trying to appease others.

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Hello again, smoothy:

That IS what the emails are telling you, isn't it? It's just not so.

Politifact says, [/B]

excon

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You lefties are real simpletons if you think we are dumb enough to believe your crap its not a back door anything... because YOUR lefty buddies have already said this is their goal.

And its been how your communist buddies have operated for decades. In fact it's a tactic Sol Alinsky has in his rules for radicals.



You may not have long enough memories to remember it... but the rest of us do.

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Not for private sales at gun shows.

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You mean not for private sales.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You mean not for private sales.

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How come you never posted on the AMHD gun board ?

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