It was for Smoothy sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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It was for Smoothy sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
So I see today you're taking to slinging sh*t about me to others instead of me. Grow a pair, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I already know basically what's in those DOJ documents... and I know the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder if it would have been done under a Republican President.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again:
One of the reasons capitalism WORKS, and one of ideas behind Ayn Rands theory's, is that man WILL act in his own self interest. I believe it. You do too, except when it comes to Obama...
Please tell me again, WHY long term civil service employees at the Justice Department and the IRS wouldn't.
excon
It's in their long term interest to do what they are told.
Hello again, tom:
I'm SUCCESSFUL in business because I can tell how other people are going to act... I thought EVERYBODY could do that. It's not hard. All I got to do is ask MYSELF whether I'D act that way... I'm ordinary. If I would, MOST people would...Quote:
it's in their long term interest to do what they are told.
However, I found out that not everybody has that talent... They can say what THEY'D do, but they think somebody else would do something different... I had a partner once. We had a REAL ugly job that needed filling... Neither one of US would do it, because the job had NO redeeming qualities. I TOLD my partner that we'll NEVER get somebody to DO it. It'll be a REVOLVING position that would cause us trouble. I KNEW that, because I'D never do it. I'm ordinary. If I won't, MOST people won't.. Of course, the job turned out exactly like I said it would.
So, I KNOW that you wouldn't obey your supervisor if it meant that you'd lose your job. I know that, EVEN if you don't. That would be against Yourself interest. Would Steve install a faulty fire alarm BECAUSE his boss told him too? I don't think he would. Look. I don't know what you do, but I know you've been doing it for a long time, and you wouldn't do ANYTHING to jeopardize it.
I don't know WHY you'd think civil service employees would act DIFFERENTLY than you would. I thought EVERYBODY had the talent I have... Guess not.
Excon
I see no illegal activity in what the civil servants did . They were following orders . They don't set policy .The culpability is not with them . Your comparison is faulty .
Because they in many cases LEGALLY and Morally aren't allowed to when on the taxpayers dime.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
How would it be different if they were protesting say... a Democrat Party member... while on payrol? Or working for a polititians campaign you personally don't like
They weren't doing this on their own private time... unassociated with their office.
What did they do?Quote:
the civil servants did
Hello again, tom:
So, now we're going to play the word game for a few pages.. Why don't we SKIP all that bs, and get right to the HEART of the issue... Words ARE important.. Lets not CHANGE them, OK?Quote:
I see no illegal activity in what the civil servants did .
I didn't USE the word "illegal". I used the word "unethical". Civil Service employees know whether the work they're being TOLD to do is POLITICAL, and therefore UNETHICAL, and therefore a FIRING offense.
But, if you THINK the Civil Service can DO POLITICS while at work, you don't live in the same country I do. Do you THINK that?? Nahhhh.. You know better.
Excon
Dude, if you think the civil service doesn't do politics at work you've been smoking too much. We're not that naïve.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Oh I pretty much know so. I became convinced when the intel analysts came up with the fabricated National Intelligence Estimate about Iran's nuke program in 2007 when they wanted to undermine the Bush Iran policy .Quote:
But, if you THINK the Civil Service can DO POLITICS while at work, you don't live in the same country I do.
You know the one I'm talking about that made the claim that Iran had abandoned their nuke program . This absolute lie came just as the 2008 Dem Presidential candidates were making engagement with Iran their policy position ,over the Bush policy of sanctions and ramping up global pressure .
We know for a FACT that the main authors of the NIE were hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials with their own distinct policy preferences. They had absolutely no problem playing politics under the cover of the 4th branch of government ;the bureaucracy .
Just curious (as has been asked by others), will the media portray Aaron Hernandez as a "white Hispanic"?
Probably not... they don't Portray Obama as a White African-American whatever an African American is... you are either an american or you aren't... there is no such country as Africa so they can't be dual citizens...Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Why don't you forget all this descriptive crap and say what you mean, black, white ,coloured or is race a forbidden subject?why would you want to define various white people such as italian, or irish separate from the general population? I'm glad we don't have any african australians it would be difficult to know how they differ from aboriginal australians since both are coloured to one degree or another but then we have indians as well and they range from white to black
Certain groups have a vested interest in maintaining their victim mindset.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I don't run around calling myself an Irish-German-American... or even a Caucasian-american I'm simply an American.
I think it's a load of crap.. and always have.
Caucasian would be a reference to your racial ancestry. Irish and German is an acknowledgement of your ethnic ancestry. The former being a reference to certain physical features while the latter being a reference to your former culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
My wife is actually an Italian-American. She actually holds Dual citizenship. I could easily do the same... I haven't because its not in my best interest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
She doesn't run around calling herself Italian American... she considers herself an American first.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
That's fine. I am sure that some African Americans choose to be an American first. But the point I am making is that one can choose to belong or not to belong to an ethnic group. One cannot choose to belong or not to belong to a racial group. By this I mean that one cannot change their physical characteristics.
There was no such thing as a 'White Hispanic ' here until the left tried to make this case about race.
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