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Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:
You get most things wrong, and this is no different. She got fired for her editorial comments..

How come you don't understand stuff?

excon

So you aren't a fan of the first amendment. My mail carrier makes editorial comments all the time, should I rat him out?

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Hello again, Steve:

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So you aren't a fan of the first amendment.

Well, there ya go... That's the trouble with you right wingers.. You don't understand the Constitution of this fair land.

Telemarketers in the workplace DON'T have First Amendment rights. In fact, NOBODY in the workplace has 'em. If your boss doesn't like what you say, or the color of your shirt, he can FIRE you. How do you not know that??? Do you think you have 1st Amendment rights HERE on this website??? You probably DO think that.

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

So you believe peons have to surrender their rights as a condition of public employment. Odd how fluid your view of the constitution has become.

Go tell the boss you have rights and let me know how that works out for ya. He doesn't care about your rights. Its his company, and he can fire you if you don't do as you are directed to do.

You may not like it, but that's the way it is. What are you going to do if you hate unions, or there is no union to beetch too?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Go tell the boss you have rights and let me know how that works out for ya. He doesn't care about your rights. Its his company, and he can fire you if you don't do as you are directed to do.

You may not like it, but that's the way it is. What are you going to do if you hate unions, or there is no union to beetch too?

I don't pretend that I have unfettered rights working for a private company. The right to be a total a$$ is reserved for unions, tenured teachers and Democrat politicians. Public employees work for the people. Regardless, firing this lady was a mean, petty thing to do and you know it. Your side used to be on her side.

Funny how the tables have turned and you're perfectly willing to throw her under the bus but not the people responsible for putting her in that awkward position. Must be more of that famous liberal compassion.

Hello again, Steve:

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So you believe peons have to surrender their rights

Lemme explain the law.. You CAN'T surrender a right you DON'T have. The freedom we enjoy is against the government stifling our speech - NOT your boss.

Whether you're a peon or a CEO, you don't have a right to free speech at work.. Limbaugh doesn't. I don't. You don't. NOBODY does.

This isn't difficult... But, it's becoming clearer and CLEARER that you wingers haven't a CLUE about your own country..

excon

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Funny how the tables have turned and you're perfectly willing to throw her under the bus

When she was told the call was being aired, she should have hung up after saying "Not interested."

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I don't pretend that I have unfettered rights working for a private company. The right to be a total a$$ is reserved for unions, tenured teachers and Democrat politicians. Public employees work for the people. Regardless, firing this lady was a mean, petty thing to do and you know it. Your side used to be on her side.

Funny how the tables have turned and you're perfectly willing to throw her under the bus but not the people responsible for putting her in that awkward position. Must be more of that famous liberal compassion.

Can we call a truce to the rock throwing today and just stick with the facts?

I really don't have enough facts to do anything but say Hannity's conduct cost a person their job. I have no clue as to why her boss fired her, or what the instructions she violated were, but firing a new person for any damn thing is all too prevalent in all businesses and governments and reflect a total lack of tolerance by bosses and the relationship with their "peon" employees.

It may border on mistreatment, or may just be her boss covering her own a$$. I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

When she was told the call was being aired, she should have hung up after saying "Not interested."

I would have turned to a supervisor and said its for you. That's how I would have covered my own a$$.

That's the rule CYA.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

I would have turned to a supervisor and said its for you. That's how I would have covered my own a$$.

That's the rule CYA.

Good move. My supers (local government, Libraryland) would tell us to hand over any irate or weird or demanding or questionable patron to them.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:
You get most things wrong, and this is no different. She got fired for her editorial comments..

How come you don't understand stuff?

excon

And apparently you got another one wrong... was you listening to the call that day? I highly doubt it... I in fact was... and I heard EVERYTHING she said... and she didn't say anything she didn't have the right to say. But I guess she was a slave and didn't have first amendment rights... she was in the USA, Florida to be precise... and not Mumbai India.

Hello again, smoothy:

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But I guess she was a slave and didn't have first amendment rights...

In so many words, you're right.. In fact, I'll bet if you were answering somebody on the legal boards who got fired for speaking their mind, you'd tell them that they have NO 1st Amendment rights at work. And, you'd be right.

I'm not gonna go through my legal treatise here, but look a page back and see the discussion Steve and I had.

By the way, IF you're gonna answer questions on the legal board, you SHOULD familiarize yourself with the law, doncha think?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:
In so many words, you're right.. In fact, I'll bet if you were answering somebody on the legal boards who got fired for speaking their mind, you'd tell them that they have NO 1st Amendment rights at work. And, you'd be right.

I'm not gonna go through my legal treatise here, but look a page back and see the discussion Steve and I had.

By the way, IF you're gonna answer questions on the legal board, you SHOULD familiarize yourself with the law, doncha think?

excon

Its obvious you never even heard the call that was being talked about did you? And what she actually said... and wasn't saying? But you still intend on arguing about it anyway.

Incidentally...when did you pass the BAR anyway?

Hello again, smoothy:

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Its obvious you never even heard the call that was being talked about did you? And what she actually said... and wasn't saying?

In this great country of ours, absent a contract, the employee/employer relationship is "at will". That's a legal term meaning that your employer can fire you for ANY reason, or NO reason at all.

Therefore, if they simply didn't like that she talked to Hannity, or if they didn't like the color of her hair, they have the RIGHT to fire her. If you DIDN'T know that, I'd stay OFF the legal boards. The flower boards could use some help.

excon

PS> Thanks. I DO know law better than most lawyers.

Yes that right an employer can fire anyone for any reason or no reason at all. I did not know of the specifics until today. Evidently the call center company hired by the Obots fired the girl for violating a policy that they had not told her about... perfectly within their right , But you know and I know that sucks anyway.

Hello again, tom:

I wasn't asked about the fairness of it. But, she DID offer her opinion, which was clearly AGAINST the interest of her employer. I don't think there's anything unfair about firing an employee like that... I DEMAND adherence to MY rules in MY workplace. As a right winger, you can understand that.

excon

As your employee I would fully follow all the rules you actually told me about . But if I broke a rule that I had no idea existed ,and was fired because of the infraction ,I would feel wronged by such harsh and unfair treatment . You would too .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

As your employee I would fully follow all the rules you actually told me about . But if I broke a rule that I had no idea existed ,and was fired because of the infraction ,I would feel wronged by such harsh and unfair treatment . You would too .

I betcha she knew deep in her heart of hearts as she was talking with Hannity that she was slamming her boss and company. If she didn't, she was an immature, brainless idiot.

Maybe... the relevant question is did she know talking to him was against policy ?