He was a sick nut no matter what the trigger was that pushed him over the edge.

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He was a sick nut no matter what the trigger was that pushed him over the edge.

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He was a Muslim with an agenda... nobody pushed him over the edge other than the Islam faith. Which you have to be mentally deficient to follow anyway.

Senate failed to get the 60 votes needed to vote on the Toomey Manchin Schumer bill.

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Senate failed to get the 60 votes needed to vote on the Toomey Manchin Schumer bill.

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Piers Morgan hit the hardest...

Piers Morgan is a "eunuch" individual... it's no wonder he suffers from such frustration he acts like a blabbering idiot.

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Senate failed to get the 60 votes needed to vote on the Toomey Manchin Schumer bill.

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We can't even have a vote? That's disgusting.

gee you would think with 90% approval that would be a slam dunk

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gee you would think with 90% approval that would be a slam dunk

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NRA money rules!

You really think the NRA has that much influence ? PULLLEEEEEEZZZZEEEEE !

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you really think the NRA has that much influence ? PULLLEEEEEEZZZZEEEEE !

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Yes, I do -- ask those who voted no why they did so.

You really have to ask who's running the country over there, sounds like a bad case of faceless men to me

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Yes, I do -- ask those who voted no why they did so.

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Personal greed. They want to be re-elected.

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Personal greed. They want to be re-elected.

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And the NRA lied.

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And the NRA lied.

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Where? Do you have a quote handy ?

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ask those who voted no why they did so.

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OK ;why did those Senate Dems from "Red States " vote against cloture if 90% of the people were in favor of universal backround checks ? They were the Senators who made the difference.

Here are the names . It should be easy to defeat them at the polls with them voting against the 90%
Mark Begich (Alaska), Max Baucus (Mont.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), and Harry Reid (Nev.) (for procedural purposes so he could bring it up again).Reid is an interesting case. He can claim to the people of Nevada that he voted for their gun rights ;and then go back to DC and claim his vote was procedural . What a worm !

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And the NRA lied.

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NO they didn't... they were completely truthful, and factual.

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NO they didn't...they were completely truthful, and factual.

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NRA said that the expanded check system would lay the groundwork for a national registry of gun owners. The measure expressly forbids such a step, with a 15-year jail sentence for anyone who tries to do that.

Actually the measure only prohibits the AG from assembling a registry. But it's other agencies like HHS that are collecting gun ownership data as part of the Obamacare questionnaires that doctors are mandated to give patients.
David Kopel spells it out at Volokh Conspiracy blog .
The Volokh Conspiracy » The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control

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NRA said that the expanded check system would lay the groundwork for a national registry of gun owners. The measure expressly forbids such a step, with a 15-year jail sentence for anyone who tries to do that.

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And you believe that? Obamacare was supposed to save everyone money and nobody would lose their current insurance and doctors... reality is its triple the highest estimate and climbing rapidly.. and most people are going to lose their current insurance and doctors.

Not to mention the lefties have actually said they want a complete registry so they know who has what so they can take them next like Hitlers brownshirts.

Obamacare hasn't started yet.