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  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:12 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    or maybe it's Clinton who's the liar
    Mr. Clinton's Disbarment Case - NYTimes.com
    Hmmm... 12 years ago... I think he survived that.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Mr Grammar King
    I'm not ashamed of my good (and continuing) education. :D
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yeah all the women are lying .

    Yeah I don't know why they hate women so much. I certainly wouldn't trust my daughter or wife with Clinton, he's a MONSTER.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:23 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Hmmm....12 years ago...I think he survived that.

    You forget the Perjury part... he's still convicted of that... but I suspect Owebama is going to give him a pardon on that yet.

    If any of US was convicted of that we would have gone to jail... but Democraps are apparently above the law and better than the rest of us... or so they think.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I certainly wouldn't trust my daughter or wife with Clinton, he's a MONSTER.
    Well I wouldn't trust my wife or daughter with any of you guys either.
    Who would you trust your wife and daughter to be with?
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Owebama... Democraps
    Heh, wasn't aware I was dealing with a 10 year old.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well I wouldn't trust my wife or daughter with any of you guys either.
    Who would you trust your wife and daughter to be with?

    Obviously the sarcasm went right over your head.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:48 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ah yes, that's always the answer - sarcasm.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 11:57 AM
    speechlesstx
    Only when appropriate.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 01:09 PM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Quote:

    You forget the Perjury part... he's still convicted of that...
    Nahhh, let's for get it.. He was impeached in the House for lying and wasn't tried in the Senate.. He was NEVER convicted in a court of law.

    Facts matter.

    Excon
  • Feb 12, 2013, 01:21 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Nahhh, let's for get it.. He was impeached in the House for lying and wasn't tried in the Senate.. He was NEVER convicted in a court of law.

    Facts matter.

    excon

    No he admitted he was a liar, surrendered his law license and paid a fine in exchange for dropping the probe.
  • Feb 12, 2013, 01:41 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No he admitted he was a liar, surrendered his law license and paid a fine in exchange for dropping the probe.

    He pled Nolo Contendere... basicly plead guilty... and as we all know... a guilty plea is the same as a conviction legally.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 06:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Yep, those Dems are still waging their war on women. Rep Joe Salazar wants women to know they don't really know if they're about to be raped so they don't need a gun, they just need a whistle.

    Colorado state Rep. Joe Salazar's comments on rape and guns draw backlash - Washington Times
  • Feb 19, 2013, 06:29 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know... In MY view, suggesting that a woman NOT carry a gun, is NOT a war upon them... Certainly, when you consider that the Sandyhook shooter KILLED his mother with her own gun that she bought, apparently, because she believed right wing clap trap..

    excon
  • Feb 19, 2013, 06:30 AM
    talaniman
    Dumb comment for sure but the issue was over having guns on campus.

    Quote:

    during a floor debate Friday night on a bill to ban concealed-carry permit holders from bringing guns on public university campuses.

    Republicans opposing the bill argued that it would leave women defenseless against attackers, but Mr. Salazar said that wasn't the case.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 07:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I dunno... In MY view, suggesting that a woman NOT carry a gun, is NOT a war upon them... Certainly, when you consider that the Sandyhook shooter KILLED his mother with her own gun that she bought, apparently, because she believed right wing clap trap..

    excon

    "That's why we have call boxes, that's why we have safe zones, that's why we have whistles, because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," Mr. Salazar said.
    ...

    "And you don't know, if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around, or if you feel like you're in trouble, and when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop around that somebody," he said.

    Republican state Rep. Polly Lawrence fired back by telling him call boxes and whistles weren't going to cut it. She later issued this tweet: "Rep. Salazar says women may not know when they're being raped.. . "

    Maybe it's not "legitimate rape" and I'm sure all those rapists are going to see to it they only prey on women near call boxes, safe zones and refrain from shoving that whistle down her throat.

    You can't squirrel your way out of this one after all the hoopla you've made about similar Republican comments, but I see you're trying.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 07:40 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    She later issued this tweet: "Rep. Salazar says women may not know when they're being raped. ..."
    That's as dumb as what the dem said and just as inacurate. His comment reflected acting in fear and being armed to do so. So you take a dumb statement and exaggerate it and make an even dumber statement. That's pretty dumb too.

    Doesn't even rise to the of level legitimate rape comments, or making a female carry her rapist baby. You sure want it to though. Sorry its not even a legitimate FACT! The argument fails miserably because she twisted his words, into something totally different to bolter the position that the answer to being safe on campus is have a gun ready to go.

    Right wing fearmongering to get guns legal on campus. Your right wing spin falls very flat.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 07:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Thats as dumb as what the dem said and just as inacurate. His comment reflected acting in fear and being armed to do so. So you take a dumb statement and exagerate it and make an even dumber statement. Thats pretty dumb too.

    Doesn't even rise to the of level legitimate rape comments, or making a female carry her rapist baby. You sure want it to though. Sorry its not even a legitimate FACT! The argument fails miserably because she twisted his words, into something totally different to bolter the position that the answer to being safe on campus is have a gun ready to go.

    Right wing fearmongering to get guns legal on campus. Your right wing spin falls very flat.

    Oh, so you don't like it when the tables are turned, eh? If you guys are going to destroy a man for understandably feeling like his daughter was violated if some punk got her pregnant, I'm not going give a rip about your whining when we point out the idiotic things your guys say.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:12 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Oh, so you don't like it when the tables are turned, eh? If you guys are going to destroy a man for understandably feeling like his daughter was violated if some punk got her pregnant, I'm not going give a rip about your whining when we point out the idiotic things your guys say.

    You haven't turned the tables, you are trying to get revenge because we jumped on the dumb stuff you say that we don't like. And you have never given a rip about anything we say in the first place.

    And as for an angry dad whose daughter had sex, against his wishes they're both punks. Been there, done that.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:15 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    feeling like his daughter was violated if some punk got her pregnant
    Uh, his daughter had consensual sex with the guy


    At least he's not this guy?
    Eric Bodenweiser, Former Delaware State Senate Candidate, Indicted On Sexual Abuse Charges

    Who is celebrated by the right:
    Quote:

    O'Donnell praised Bodenweiser as a “great man that deserves our support and that we need to send to Dover. Eric has the kind of character that will stand up against corruption, that will do what is right in the face of opposition, in the face of pressure.”
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You haven't turned the tables, you are trying to get revenge because we jumped on the dumb stuff you say that we don't like. And you have never given a rip about anything we say in the first place.

    Why so sensitive today?

    Quote:

    And as for an angry dad whose daughter had sex, against his wishes they're both punks. Been there, done that.
    Ditto
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Uh, his daughter had consensual sex with the guy:

    How do you know it was consensual? How do you know he didn't pressure her into it? And regardless, I wouldn't give a rip if it was consensual I would still feel like my daughter was violated. But I guess you wouldn't care if dudes slept around with your kid?


    Quote:

    At least he's not this guy?
    Eric Bodenweiser, Former Delaware State Senate Candidate, Indicted On Sexual Abuse Charges

    Who is celebrated by the right
    Wrong tense. Unlike libs we don't celebrate them after they're outed as a perv.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:48 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    But I guess you wouldn't care if dudes slept around with your kid.
    Troll fail. LOL!
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:52 AM
    speechlesstx
    How puerile of you.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 08:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    manufactured false premises deserve to be dismissed
    that was said by you!
  • Feb 19, 2013, 09:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    It was actually a question, genius.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 09:48 AM
    NeedKarma
    Why so sensitive today?
  • Feb 19, 2013, 10:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    The University of Colorado has some suggestions for women on how to protect themselves from being raped, since you can't have a gun...

    Quote:

    Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.

    Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.

    Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.

    Don’t take time to look back; just get away.

    If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.

    Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.

    Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.

    Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!

    Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.

    Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.
    If "passive resistance" doesn't work or you can't pee or vomit on cue you may be out of luck.
  • Feb 19, 2013, 10:39 AM
    Wondergirl
    Or

    Travel in groups.

    Don't go where there may be danger.

    Tell the attacker, "OMG! I know your mother!!!"
  • Feb 19, 2013, 10:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Having a gun protects you from all evils.
  • Feb 21, 2013, 05:53 AM
    excon
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    Hello again,

    Hmmmm... Texas has one of the highest if not the highest teen birth rate in the country. Meanwhile, Republicans in the state continue to limit access to not just birth control but to cancer pregnancy and STD testing as well as other types of care women and infants require.

    How does that make sense?
  • Feb 21, 2013, 06:34 AM
    tomder55
    604 registered voters!! Wow now that's comprehensive ! I wonder how many Repubics have lost elections in Texas by taking the wrong side on the birth control debate. You would think that they'd be losing a lot of elections.
  • Feb 21, 2013, 07:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Interesting little sampling, and spin. Did you notice that over half of these 604 women haven't heard anything about the issue lately, yet 53 percent had a more favorable view of crisis pregnancy centers? Or that only 36 percent of these thought it "extremely important" that women have access to birth control regardless of their income? Or that exactly half don't see access in Texas as threatened?

    What I find more interesting is in all this spin about funding women's "health care" which largely means Planned Parenthood (which I believe is whose funding was cut off in Texas, not mentioned the poll), is they make a killing off abortions but don't do mammograms like Zero claimed.
  • Feb 21, 2013, 07:41 AM
    NeedKarma
    Here is the actual quote from Obama:
    Quote:

    “When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.”
    Here is what that organization does:
    Quote:

    Women can't walk into a Planned Parenthood clinic and get a mammogram on the spot. The clinics don't have mammography equipment. Planned Parenthood performs gynecological exams, including breast exams, and refers women to other facilities to have mammograms performed, much like women are referred to radiological centers by their gynecologists or primary care physicians.

    In addition to mammogram referrals, the group says it helps low-income patients find grants and assistance to pay for mammograms, such as through the National Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program, which is for women at or below 250 percent of the federal poverty level. Planned Parenthood of Western Pennsylvania also has a Breast Health Care Fund, which helps patients obtain mammograms. Individual clinics also may occasionally sponsor no-cost mammogram events — for instance, on Oct. 19, Planned Parenthood of Nassau County, N.Y. plans to sponsor free mammograms at a mammography van at the health center. In south-central New York, a state program parks its mobile van outside two Planned Parenthood clinics.

    Nucatola said that “for many women,” Planned Parenthood is their only health care provider and “thus the only way they will get a referral for a mammogram.”
    I guess you thought they have mammogram equipment in every PP office? That would be prohibitively expensive.
  • Feb 21, 2013, 07:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Here is the actual quote from Obama:


    Here is what that organization does:


    I guess you thought they have mammogram equipment in every PP office? That would be prohibitively expensive.

    Obviously you don't grasp the concept of the president deliberately misleading women. But then, why would I expect anyone to see the irony of all those liberal men running around telling women what's best for them or how to protect themselves?

    Rape? What rape? Women aren't getting raped on college campuses and anyway, they can hit 'em over the head with their whistle!
  • Feb 21, 2013, 07:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    president deliberately misleading women
    But he isn't at all. They can get a referral from PP. Why do you think his statement is misleading?
  • Feb 21, 2013, 08:02 AM
    speechlesstx
    What part of "rely on" do you not get?
  • Feb 21, 2013, 08:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    How else would they get the referral?

    Quote:

    “for many women,” Planned Parenthood is their only health care provider and “thus the only way they will get a referral for a mammogram.”
  • Feb 21, 2013, 08:21 AM
    speechlesstx
    Oh the drama, access to referrals is not an issue either. Even in the Texas Panhandle they come to you. Planned Parenthood not needed!
  • Feb 21, 2013, 09:00 AM
    talaniman
    Great idea, you just have to wait until it comes to your area. One is all they have? They may need a lot more. Wonder if you need insurance or is it free? Don't bother I already know they bill your insurance first, but they do take Medicaid. No insurance, no money, no treatment. Yes I called them and awaiting their alternative funding plans.

    Not saying its not a great idea, just checking the facts before I get on board that this is a reasonable alternative to PP for poor females with no money or Medicaid, or the working poor who have no insurance period. The Texas Governor has already said no to Medicaid expansion so we will see.

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