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No it isn't, you are simply troubled what the answer would show so you skirt the issue entirely.

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Wrong, it's irrelevant to the point, and since it's my point I know what the point is.

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I'm not talking about sweeping generalities of each party, I'm discussing this specific issue; can you do that too?

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Dude, you're the only one skirting the issue. tom already answered your distraction, "I'm sure they pay green fees and play too. any other irrelevent points ?" No further comment on that is necessary, it's irreleveant if Republicans play golf there because they aren't the ones preaching about droughts and climate change while causing droughts and running off to play golf in a desert that uses 17% of their supply to water the golf courses, but I believe I said that already. Your issue is answered, can you deal with the issue we're discussing or not?

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Oh, and did you notice that while president climate change was lying about the unnecessary man-made drought in the Central California Valley that he golfed at some pretty exclusive water-guzzling golf courses while hanging with his rich buddies? Nah, you didn't.

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There is no point to this article.

There are one hundred and twenty something golf courses in the area that would use just as much water as the two exclusive courses.

Would it be satisfactory if he played on one of the larger courses in the area that probably uses more water?

The article says that it hasn't provided any water figures for any golf course in the area.

the point tutty is to demonstrate how biased speech is and how desperate he is to make a point. He has forgotten to be fair and realise that his republican buddies both play golf and also waste water drenching their lawns, so golf now becomes the dog whistle for republican waste

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Wrong, it's irrelevant to the point, and since it's my point

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Actually I was discussing tom's point. Not sure how you got involved other than to try and change the subject.

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the point tutty is to demonstrate how biased speech is and how desperate he is to make a point. He has forgotten to be fair and realise that his republican buddies both play golf and also waste water drenching their lawns, so golf now becomes the dog whistle for republican waste

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I believe I acknowledged that point, which is still just as irrelevant.

If it makes you happy I don't care where Obama plays golf either, but I DO care that he's lying through his teeth about the drought in the Central California Valley and if it were me making such a big deal about it, I'd be careful about the optics of playing at a water guzzling desert course right after making the speech. Apparently that disconnect doesn't bother the true believers, which speaks volumes about their environmental "concerns."

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The article says that it hasn't provided any water figures for any golf course in the area.

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When you ask for such facts they either attack you or change the subject.

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Actually I was discussing tom's point. Not sure how you got involved other than to try and change the subject.

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tom was discussing my point, you ventured into irrelevance. Do you like it there?

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I'd be careful about the optics of playing at a water guzzling desert course right after making the speech.

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Totally irrelevant.

Only NK could attempt to make the argument that the explanation of my point is irrelevant to my point, lol!

My god, what a child, is this what most republicans are like?

Yes, most of us are intelligent people who know astrology is not scientific.

As an intelligent person I abandoned astrology long ago, but as the statistics imply a third of you are not intelligent enough to understand astrology is not scientific. This supports your contention but doesn't explain why astrology should be considered scientific on any level unless it is somehow associated with astronomy. I have no doubt astrology might have given birth to astronomy in the dark ages before science rose above alchemy and wizardry but there is no excuse this side of the enlightenment for astrology to be considered science.

I expect this places a third of Republicans and half of democrats as unenlightened which says that at least three quarters of americans are unenlightened at least on the subject of science

Obama to Propose Shift in Wildfire Funding

Yes, I'm quite certain wildfire budgets have been more than strained, but this is typical of political 'solutions.' Embrace misguided environmental policy that creates huge problems (and ignored sound science) then have to spend billions more managing the problem you created. Or in the case of the California drought you created, double down and blame it on climate change.

Climate Prediction Center - Expert Assessments: United States Seasonal Drought Outlook Summary

We need a long term and short term fix for a regional problem whether you believe in climate change or not. Why would raising taxes on industries using resources that contribute to drought and fire conditions not be a viable option in funding better preventative measures?

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Climate Prediction Center - Expert Assessments: United States Seasonal Drought Outlook Summary

We need a long term and short term fix for a regional problem whether you believe in climate change or not. Why would raising taxes on industries using resources that contribute to drought and fire conditions not be a viable option in funding better preventative measures?

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Obviously you missed the entire point of the post.

Just trying to broaden the perspective a bit. Yours is too narrow and partisan. Even your link points out that policies and procedures and the rules have been inadequate since the 50s.

Showing me more climate 'predictions' doesn't broaden anyone's perspective. Of course there will be drought in California when you dismantle their irrigation system and dump all the water into the ocean to save bait.

The link I gave you is a climate prediction based on weather data, both short and long term prevailing conditions, updated weekly.

And I repeat, of course you're going to have more drought when you strip them of their water supply.

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I can only assume this asinine tweet by our ambassador to the UN is an aversion to reality.

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What the hell does that even mean in relation to a guy getting beheaded on video as a warning to the infidels by Muslim extremist KSM - who still has not been held accountable? Are we supposed to still believe that if we just talk to the terrorists everything will be Kum-ba-yah groovy? What?