And here I thought asking someone to carry a photo id was racist . Organized objections to showing ID at the polls are madesolely to enable vote fraud. You know it and I know it .
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And here I thought asking someone to carry a photo id was racist . Organized objections to showing ID at the polls are madesolely to enable vote fraud. You know it and I know it .
Sorry, but I think failing to protect the integrity of the election is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, which is odd coming from people that still think Bush stole the 2000 election and suggest, or require as Dems do for their events, ID.
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If you could only SHOW me wide spread fraud, or even a LITTLE fraud, I'd agree. But, to make a law that protects us from a crime that ISN'T HAPPENING, is STUPID, STUPID, and even STUPIDER than that.Quote:
Sorry, but I think failing to protect the integrity of the election is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID,
Plus, BUSH won the election in the COURTS - NOT because right wingers voted twice. How do you NOT know that??
excon
Show me how requiring id is suppression. You guys require it for everything but voting, why is that?
What is the problem with voter identification? When I go to the polls I have to identify myself, no problem. It seems you have a high level of chicanery associated with elections but you have so many of them any problems should have been sorted by now. I think it is all an excuse to be racist
The Dems can't register illegals if they have to show id .
so, why should illegals vote? I thought voting is for citizens
Florida's latest voter purge bid draws criticism
Ensuring integrity with shenanigans? Conservatives lose credibility about voter ID laws when the engage in many other tactics to suppress the vote, AND publicly admit its to WIN elections. Like those guys in PA did.Quote:
In 2012, at Scott's behest, the state attempted to purge non-U.S. citizens from voter rolls in an effort he said to address voter fraud. The state's list of potential non-citizens began with 182,000 names but later was reduced to as few as about 200. The effort was halted before the presidential election in the wake of opposition from Florida's elections supervisors and a flurry of lawsuits.
Top Pennsylvania Republican Admits Voter ID Helped Suppress Obama Voters | ThinkProgress
Integrity?? You be the judge.Quote:
Last year, Pennsylvania Republican House Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA) admitted that voter identification efforts were designed to suppress Democratic votes, telling a Republican Steering Committee meeting that Voter ID “is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”Romney ended up losing the state, but Republicans still believe that they successfully kept Democrats from supporting President Obama. As Pennsylvania's GOP Chairman Rob Gleason told Pennsylvania Cable Network earlier this week, the party “cut Obama by 5 percent” in 2012 and “probably Voter ID had helped a bit in that.” Watch it:
Hello again,
You know what pisses me off??? Voters who can't read. Talk about voter INTEGRITY. How much integrity can there be when the person voting doesn't even know WHY he's voting??? I don't care if he has an ID or not, I wanna make sure he can read.
That's fair, isn't it? You don't want DUMMIES voting, do you?
excon
come on ex you know you are either voting for the Elephant in the room or making a Donkey vote, pictures are good enough for this. How many people could read when your nation was formed, it wasn't a requirement then, why should it be a requirement now? Just so you can exclude people from the polls, hell, maybe them red neck republicans can't read, but I expect you thought of that You claim a 99% literacy rate over there EX, that means people can read of course we don't really know what they were measuring do we? being as so many people can't comprehend what they read
Heaven forbid the dead lose their right to vote ( liberals think the right to vote doesn't end at death)... or the illegals, or people that aren't even legal residents of that state to vote.
If anyone cared about fair elections and reducing fraud... they would WANT to make sure everyone voting was entitled to vote.
And the sob stories about the poor... get real... they need id's to apply for handouts, fod stamps, welfare, SSI , to cash checks, do business with a bank, rent anything, and almost everythig else. They can cough up that same ID at the voting locations as well.
there is no comparison between voter id and literacy laws. Citizens are allowed to vote regardless of their literacy rate. There is no inherent hardship in being required to prove you are eligible to vote ,and voter Id is the most logical means to accomplish that .
literacy isn't an issue unless the US has been lying to the world about literacy levels, you alledge you have a 99% literacy rate, we can conduct free and fair elections with ID at a literacy rate of 96%, no, this issue is about electoral whorting
There is no fraud in purging non-citizens off the voter rolls, they don't have the right to vote.
Ex brought it up because in our past ,literacy tests were used to exclude Black voters. It is an irrelevent moot point now because literacy tests have been outlawed as a prerequisite . (Voting Rights Act of 1965)
seems all you guys do is rehash history
Better than rewriting history.Quote:
seems all you guys do is rehash history
oh I think you do a lot of that too
Both sides do but the left specializes in it.Quote:
oh I think you do a lot of that too
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Both sides do but the left specializes in it.
Well that was helpful. Now would you go troll someone else?
You don't know what a troll is old man LOL. Have a great day!
just trollin by the ol' mill stream
Yet another personal insult, such a shallow mind you have.Quote:
You don't know what a troll is old man LOL. Have a great day!7
yes he is trollin in shallow waters
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According to our resident right wingers, voter ID is NOT voter suppression... I couldn't BELIEVE that they BELIEVED that, because - because...... Because it made NO sense on it's face. Just like I CAN'T believe THEY believe that trap laws are designed to PROTECT women instead of making war on them... But, I digress...
Here's ONE Republican that understands. He believes the party should develop IDEAS that attract voters, instead of winning by SCREWING them over...
excon
can't open the link . But Rep Schultz was the ONLY Repubic to vote against the Walker tax cut plan . So we have a good idea where his true loyalties lie. Another RINO. Good riddance Schultz.
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Try here.
excon
still not working .. But I looked it up. Like I said , good riddance . The story in Wisconsin is not this malcontent . Dale Schultz is peeved because he got primaried. Now he's retiring . The story in Wisconsin is how Scott Walker has survived endless assaults by his opponents ;including a couple of recall efforts ...and effectively turned the state around to a point that it is running huge budget surpluses that he will now return to the taxpayers in the form of property and income tax cuts.
here is the link you are refering to...
Dale Schultz: 'I am not willing to defend them anymore' : Ct
and here is the real news out of Wisconsin ...
Assembly approves tax cut plan, sends it to Scott Walker
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GOP Sen. Dale Schultz of Richland Center joining all Democrats in voting against the proposal.
like I said ..RINO
Under Scott Walker, Wisconsin keeps increasing its long-term borrowing : Ct
Has Scott Walker Really Turned Around Wisconsin? | Newgeography.com
A balanced budget sounds nice but digging through his budget it's on the backs of its children and heavy borrowing. I know posting a link to his actual budget will go unread for the more favored ideological rhetoric, but here it is any way.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2013/related/acts/20
Fact checking Gov. Scott Walker's budget address and Democratic attacks | PolitiFact Wisconsin
http://www.wisconsinbudgetproject.org/Quote:
Walker's 2011-'13 budget is running a small surplus.
But his proposed 2013-'15 budget will be in the hole by $2.64 billion by the end of its second year, as page 33 of his budget summary shows.
The projected deficit is based not on traditional governmental accounting, but on private-sector GAAP accounting, which Walker in his 2010 campaign had promised to use to truly balance the budget. We gave him a Promise Broken on the Walk-O-Meter for not doing so.
The Journal Sentinel reported that using more comprehensive accounting practices, the state GAAP deficit would grow to $2.64 billion from $2.06 billion, an increase of 29% over two years.
The GAAP number is briefly mentioned in the budget book every year. The governor is under legal obligation to present a balanced budget according to the traditional accounting, and Walker has done that.
Further I might add that he is hoping to enact new voter laws that will help him get re elected as governor. The Koch's are very grateful for their tax cuts.
Votor ID only suppresses the votes of those people who legally don't have the right to vote in the first place.
#1. The dead. They gave that up the day they died. If voting mattered they would have stayed alive.
#2. The Illegals. They aren't Citizens and as such never had the right to vote. And still don't.
#3.The People vote vote in multiple states or multiple times. Its illegal to vote in elections more than once... period... no right exists to vote as many times as you wish.. despite assertations from Democrats that you do..
Since you have no evidence of any of your assertions making this a problem, its suppression.
I think your type of response to what I said is evidence I was completely correct... because the democrats think all of those three groups SHOULD be allowed to vote as often as they want.
Otherwise there would be no objections... because no legal votors would be suppressed.
How do you know what 125 million people think?Quote:
because the democrats think all of those three groups SHOULD be allowed to vote as often as they want.
It doesn't matter what dead people and the illegals think... or anyone else... the law is the law... Dead people don't vote.. illegals don't vote... and anyone else that's legally allowed to vote only get to vote once.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Otherwise they are all lawbreakers.
Canada doesn't alow you to cast as many votes as your want for every election. You get one..and only one.
We don't either.
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Lets see how this pans out. Who knows ?????
How Did Woman Who Died in 2008 Vote In 2010 Election? – Consumerist
Michigan woman's mummified body found in her car six years after her death | The Raw Story
I hope this isn't evidence of the spread voter fraud that makes a need of targeted suppression.
what I don't get is how could the dead voting be in sufficient numbers to make a difference, is the zombie vote an important minority vote where you live?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
on the lighter side we found someone who had voted 13 times in the last election, a seriel voter, who would have thought
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Look. It's ok with me if you say you wanna suppress the vote because it gives you an advantage. That's because it DOES. It's OBVIOUS what it is. You CAN'T really believe it's to stop dead people from voting...
While I'm on the subject, it's ok with me if you say that trap laws close down abortion clinics, and THAT'S a DESIRED result. But, to BELIEVE that they're designed for the health of women, is UNBELIEVABLE...
So, I just wanna know if I'm dealing with REALISTS here, or people who drank kool aid by the gallons..
excon
THey are part of the Vote early, vote often crowd Babara Boxer and Nancy pelosi talked about... THe dead aren't actually voting.. its the living that's voting multiple times... and on their behalf... because they don't have to prove who they are at the polls some places. Vote Early, Vote Often: Shock Video Shows How Easy It Is to Vote Illegally, as Eric Holder - YouTube here is a video explaining how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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