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  • Jul 26, 2013, 03:52 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    You only recognize Obama as a Religious deity.

    You'll spout anything LOL. That was kind of funny.
  • Jul 26, 2013, 05:36 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    On this forum you do none of the former and a lot of the latter. One of the reasons religion is losing its hold of people.

    Yeah well, Jesus minced no words with hypocrites either and you're the worst of the worst. If you ever have a change of heart I'll be as forgiving as he was.
  • Jul 26, 2013, 05:59 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You'll spout anything LOL. That was kinda funny.

    Makes a whole lot more sense than a lot of what you spout. To those that can grasp the meaning of what I said anyway.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 01:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Jesus minced no words with hypocrites either and you're the worst of the worst.
    I'll take that challenge, whee am I a hypocrite?

    It's weird that you realize and admit that you spew venom here and make no attempt to change your ways.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 01:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    ...what you spout

    Like what?
  • Jul 27, 2013, 03:58 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'll take that challenge, whee am I a hypocrite?

    That's too easy, like when you accuse of others spewing venom after spewing venom.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3514854

    Quote:

    It's weird that you realize and admit that you spew venom here and make no attempt to change your ways.
    Did you get that from the Bible?
  • Jul 27, 2013, 07:00 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Like what?

    Just pick about 1/2 of your responses lately.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 08:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    If you hadn't heard, many in the media have run with the meme that a juror said Zimmerman got away with murder. Uh no. It was artful editing by ABC, she was fed the words.

    Did George Zimmerman get away with murder? No. Juror B29 is being framed. - Slate Magazine

    The media has no shame.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 08:59 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Couple things.. I saw some of the interview, and I don't see HOW they could edit it.. Nonetheless, if they did, it'll become clear shortly. Certainly, she'll be interviewed again.

    But, I don't understand your investment in George Zimmerman. I have NO investment in Trayvon. I have an investment in LAW, and how it's applied. I have an OPINION on what happened, but because we have only ONE side, an OPINION is all ANYBODY could have... That would be unless you believed every word out of Zimmerman's mouth. Even then, it wouldn't be FACT. It would be your BELIEF.

    Although, my OPINION is that Zimmerman got away with murder. It's also my opinion that the jury reached the correct verdict..

    excon
  • Jul 27, 2013, 09:08 AM
    smoothy
    Ex... I bet you wouldn't have thought it was murder if Treyvon was bashing your head on the sidewalk before you killed him.

    Murder is NOT the same as killing someone in self defense.. The latter is legally and morally justified... the former indicates there was never such a justification.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 11:57 AM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I don't stutter. I BELIEVE Zimmerman is a murdering SOB.

    Ex
  • Jul 27, 2013, 12:27 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Ex....I bet you wouldn't have thought it was murder if Treyvon was bashing your head on the sidewalk before you killed him.

    Murder is NOT the same as killing someone in self defense.. The latter is legally and morally justified...the former indicates there was never such a justification.

    If I was a neighbor hood watch captain I would have had the good sense to sit tight for the cops to handle their business and never put myself in the position of getting my kicked and having to shoot. After calling a cop I would have called my fellow watch neighbors and we all would have coordinated safely following a prearranged plan just for these situations.

    He is guilty of being an idiot and got away with murder and you don't need a jury to convict him of stupidity that resulted in a dead kid. I don't like the verdict or the law, or the ignorance of the fool who started this crap, or the blatant disregard for the obvious fact that he could have done a better job of being a NW captain in the first place.

    That's a damn shame on top of this tragedy.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 02:18 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I don't stutter. I BELIEVE Zimmerman is a murdering SOB.

    ex

    I highly doubt you would just lay there and let someone beat you to death. No matter what you might be claiming.

    Gandhi you aren't.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 02:21 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    If I was a neighbor hood watch captain I would have had the good sense to sit tight for the cops to handle their business and never put myself in the position of getting my kicked and having to shoot. After calling a cop I would have called my fellow watch neighbors and we all would have coordinated safely following a prearranged plan just for these situations.

    He is guilty of being an idiot and got away with murder and you don't need a jury to convict him of stupidity that resulted in a dead kid. I don't like the verdict or the law, or the ignorance of the fool who started this crap, or the blatant disregard for the obvious fact that the could have done a better job of being a NW captain in the first place.

    That's a damn shame on top of this tragedy.

    Well... Zimmerman'[s got more of a right to kill a thug who was violating the law by assaulting him... and also for trying to kill him than that thug has... period. Its in the constitution... its in the law... if you don't like it... tough.

    The world knows Treyvon was a Black racist... his fat girlfriend told us on the witness stand under oath... its in text messages on his own cell phone.

    Amazing how liberals play this BS claim about how passive and non-violent they are... yet MOST crime is committed in Liberal majority areas.

    Are liberals capable of grasping the concept of what self defense is?
  • Jul 27, 2013, 02:29 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The world knows Treyvon was a Black racist...his fat girlfriend told us on the witness stand under oath...its in text messages on his own cell phone.

    Zimmerman didn't know that when he caught sight of and accosted Martin.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 06:47 PM
    paraclete
    He didn't need to, all he needed to know was here was a person who he regarded as behaving supiciously. Zimmerman was a police tragic and took too much upon himself. The outcome ultimately led to confrontation.

    Many of us live in a society where if we see certain people we keep an eye on them because they are out of place and as a class have a reputation for larceny.


    Someone wants to tell us we don't have a right to be supicious but experience tells us otherwise. What Zimmerman did wasn't racist it was class warfare
  • Jul 27, 2013, 06:49 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Zimmerman didn't know that when he caught sight of and accosted Martin.

    Do you have absolutely ANY proof at all that actually happened... because not even the prosecution was capable of making that claim.

    The FACT is Treyvon assaulted ZImmerman... the evidence was there... witnesses backed it up... Tryvons Girlfriend even said Treyvon attacked ZImmerman...

    She flat out told the planet that Treyvon told here he was going to teach the creepy white cracker a lesson..,.

    Its in the PROSECUTIONS testimony... not the defenses... Google it up... there are dozens of videos of her saying it on UTube.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 07:05 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    He didn't need to, all he needed to know was here was a person who he regarded as behaving supiciously. Zimmerman was a police tragic and took too much upon himself. The outcome ultimately led to confrontation.

    many of us live in a society where if we see certain people we keep an eye on them because they are out of place and as a class have a reputation for larceny.


    Someone wants to tell us we don't have a right to be supicious but experience tells us otherwise. What Zimmerman did wasn't racist it was class warfare

    BullS***.

    Zimmerman was actually a RESIDENT of that GATED community... He did NOT have a criminal record... HIS right to be there at any time of the day or night is absolute... and beyond question.

    TREYVON was NOT a resident there... and had less than NO right to assault ANYONE.. period... end of story.

    What Treyvon was... was a criminal... (thats a proven fact)... he had a Bad attitude and asked for this to happen... in fact Treyvon BEGGED for this to happen.

    I'm glad he's dead... in fact I hope everyone shoots every punk like that to death.. instead of letting them get arrested for their crime. The world will be a better place if they are taken out of it sooner.

    Wastes of human flesh like Treyvon do not.. contrary to what the criminal lovers might thing.. do NOT have the right to commit ANY crime at all... and that includes laying a hand on another person... stealing their stuff... vandalizing their stuff. Or assaulting another human.

    And they don't have any right to survive any attempt they make to assault another person. And in fact shouldn't.
  • Jul 27, 2013, 07:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    TREYVON was NOT a resident there

    No, but he was a guest of a homeowner. Do the homeowners have to report to Zimmerman and company if they have guests over for parties or overnight?
  • Jul 27, 2013, 07:32 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No, but he was a guest of a homeowner. Do the homeowners have to report to Zimmerman and company if they have guests over for parties or overnight?.

    IF they were planning to commit and assault.. then yes they were.

    If Treyvon had a shred of common sense or respect... he would have simply answered a legitimate question about what he was doing there... 'But being a Black with some attitude like he was above the law.. he instead decided he has the right to assault someone... proving he really was dumb as a stump and not Mr. Smart like some claimed.

    Well a 17 year old will be charged as an adult for most crimes they commit... and if he was big enough man to pick a fight... he was a big enough man to deal with the fact real "MEN" are entitled to carry a gun if they apply for... qualify for... and are granted a permit to carry one.

    Something Treyvon with his record would never have been allowed to do.

    Know what... Treyvon was a fool for biting off more than he could chew... and the human gene pool is a little better as a result.

    If I was there.. I'd have shot Treyvon BEFORE my head hit the pavement the first time...

    Zimmerman was by every legal definition in the right for the self defense claim from the moment Treyvon first struck him... which as has been proven in court... Treyvon was who initiated the fight.

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