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  • Nov 4, 2020, 11:38 AM
    tomder55
    also there is allegations thatin some Trump supporting districts Sharpies were distributed to voters to fill out the ballots Those ballots were later invalidated . I can't confirm the validity of that charge . Supposedly Arizona officials are saying that the use of Sharpies should not invalidate ballots . But maybe ballot counters are doing so.

    Anyway ;with over 500,000 votes to count ;the news organizations were premature in calling Arizona as early as they did .
  • Nov 4, 2020, 11:57 AM
    talaniman
    Looks like the court stuff has started already.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us...?ocid=msedgntp

    Doesn't beat fantasy sports but will do until the weekend.
  • Nov 4, 2020, 01:09 PM
    tomder55
    I believe I commented a while ago that we were looking at Florida 2000 on steroids
  • Nov 4, 2020, 01:51 PM
    tomder55
    Now that the lawyers are in play ,Trump should shut up and let the lawyers handle it . The more he talks the more he jeopardizes his cause
  • Nov 4, 2020, 02:39 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    also there is allegations thatin some Trump supporting districts Sharpies were distributed to voters to fill out the ballots Those ballots were later invalidated . I can't confirm the validity of that charge . Supposedly Arizona officials are saying that the use of Sharpies should not invalidate ballots . But maybe ballot counters are doing so.

    Sharpies bleed through the paper and invalidate the ballot according to my county's board of election commissioners.
  • Nov 4, 2020, 03:46 PM
    tomder55
    yes I made sure I has my own pen . I don't know the details . Too many moving parts to follow today . Suffice it to say that CNN took Arizona off of the Biden list for now . I know that Pennsylvania ,Wisconsin and probably Arizona are in the lawyer phase of the election.

    Down ballot the Repubs did not lose a state legislature going into a redistricting year . They also retained the Senate which means no court packing and no shoving the Harris AOC agenda down our throats .
  • Nov 4, 2020, 04:16 PM
    talaniman
    Guess dems may have to just settle for making the dufus a one term president, and saving Fauci's job. Oh well! At least we get rid of Barr and a bunch of incompetent sycophant critters.

    The dufus better keep those lawyers though, he may well need them.
  • Nov 9, 2020, 09:58 PM
    paraclete
    so tal what are you going to complain about now your pick is in power?
  • Nov 10, 2020, 03:45 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Down ballot the Repubs did not lose a state legislature going into a redistricting year

    Speaking of down ballots, how is it that ballots with Biden votes are invalid, but those same ballots with Republican votes down ballot are valid?
  • Nov 10, 2020, 04:59 AM
    paraclete
    If you backed out all the invalid votes for both Trump would have won
  • Nov 10, 2020, 06:19 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    If you backed out all the invalid votes for both Trump would have won

    Your evidence?
  • Nov 10, 2020, 11:23 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    If you backed out all the invalid votes for both Trump would have won

    Too many Cocoa Puffs for breakfast. That makes little sense and right out of the dufus sycophant talking points.
  • Nov 10, 2020, 01:34 PM
    paraclete
    I eat a man's breakfast, bacon and egg, not a child's. It makes real sense when there is evidence of fraud
  • Nov 10, 2020, 03:17 PM
    talaniman
    Sort of a joke Clete, being coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs. 8D! As to evidence of fraud just show it don't just say it. That's why every dufus lawsuit has been dismissed because of lack of evidence.

    https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-longsh...164240573.html

    Why are you spreading BS from a BS'er, Clete?
  • Nov 10, 2020, 04:08 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It makes real sense when there is evidence of fraud

    Your evidence? (Second request for evidence).
  • Nov 10, 2020, 06:16 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Your evidence? (Second request for evidence).

    100,000 votes all for Biden, doesn't stand up statistically, beyond the limits of probability
  • Nov 10, 2020, 06:41 PM
    talaniman
    I watched as the returns were trickling in, but I don't remember a 100, 000 votes coming in for Biden at on time nor at no time did I see Biden get votes and the dufus didn't so please explain what you're talking about. I mean the vote total was Biden by 4 million and both he and the dufus broke the record for vote totals but Biden had more.

    Right wing Dufus BS Clete.
  • Nov 10, 2020, 06:52 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    100,000 votes all for Biden, doesn't stand up statistically, beyond the limits of probability

    Of course it's not probable.That's precisely why it's false. A simple search on google will provide you with non-partisan websites debunking this rumor which originated with Trump supporters. I didn't think you were that dumb to fall for such nonsense - and even worse, to repeat it like Trump does.
  • Nov 10, 2020, 07:39 PM
    paraclete
    I'm just mirroring what the media says, media says Trump bad to be believed, media says Biden benefits from voter fraud, not to be believed. You can have just so many options
  • Nov 10, 2020, 08:07 PM
    talaniman
    Wrong media change your newsfeed. Problem solved.
  • Nov 10, 2020, 09:09 PM
    paraclete
    Yes Sky not to be believed
  • Nov 10, 2020, 09:51 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I'm just mirroring what the media says,

    You're mirroring the wrong media. Try the mainstream media - NYTimes, Wash Post, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC (this one is too much anti-Trump, but it's reporting is factual). NEVER rely on FOX or OAN, or MAXNEWS - or any others that range from far right to Kremlin supported. The right-leaning Wall Street Journal is ok.

    I realize you're from another country, so this may help you to discern who's truthful and who's not. When in doubt, google "fact checkers" - most are reliable but some are not. It's easy to tell which is which.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 05:12 AM
    paraclete
    I don't watch american mainstream media
  • Nov 11, 2020, 05:18 AM
    tomder55
    The final arbiter of truth has just told you which American press is worthy of you to view . .
  • Nov 11, 2020, 05:27 AM
    jlisenbe
    Might want to watch the ones that were honest enough to report on Hunter Biden's hard drive.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 06:06 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I don't watch american mainstream media

    I see. So you watch the right-wing propaganda. That explains much of what you have been posting. You should try to get a balance by watching the mainstream media.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 06:39 AM
    jlisenbe
    That's so funny. CNN is "mainstream media", but Fox is "right-wing propaganda". Thank goodness Athos is not biased.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 08:47 AM
    talaniman
    Right wingers certainly prefer Fox. Maybe the lack of choices limits you, and it's understandable if mainstream media is biased against your views. I watch and read a number of news sources and easy to filter bias for facts and loony crazy talk.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 09:44 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Right wingers certainly prefer Fox. Maybe the lack of choices limits you, and it's understandable if mainstream media is biased against your views. I watch and read a number of news sources and easy to filter bias for facts and loony crazy talk.
    Most news services are biased. It's always been that way. My point was that Athos was plainly biased in his choice of terms.

    I can't see how to call it anything but pro-Biden bias when news services absolutely refused to cover the HB hard drive story. It was, and is, a legit scandal which will undoubtedly be swept under the rug when his daddy goes into the WH.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 11:26 AM
    talaniman
    I guess in the grand scheme of things many see Biden's son's issues as small potatoes compared to the 3 years of lies and crap from the dufus and the turn out and vote count bears that out.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 11:38 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Most news services are biased. It's always been that way. My point was that Athos was plainly biased in his choice of terms.

    I can't see how to call it anything but pro-Biden bias when news services absolutely refused to cover the HB hard drive story. It was, and is, a legit scandal which will undoubtedly be swept under the rug when his daddy goes into the WH.

    How did a laptop supposedly belonging to Hunter Biden end up in a Delaware computer repair shop, then go to Rudy Giuliani, then arrive at the New York Post? Smells stinky to me.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 11:47 AM
    jlisenbe
    It did not "supposedly belong" to HB. That is beyond question. As to the rest, you don't know and I don't know. That should really bother us. That should be public knowledge by now.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 12:28 PM
    talaniman
    It's as public as the dufus tax returns.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 12:29 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It did not "supposedly belong" to HB. That is beyond question. As to the rest, you don't know and I don't know. That should really bother us. That should be public knowledge by now.

    In this day and age of wondrous ways to create emails and other internet stuff, there is no proof the hard drive belongs to HB. According to the New York Post, an unidentified individual dropped off a MacBook Pro at a Delaware computer repair shop (owned by a Trump supporter) in April 2019 and never came back for it. The shop’s owner noticed a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on the device and decided to look through the hard drive.

    The owner has been repeatedly changing his story about what exactly occurred. He initially said that he wasn’t able to identify who dropped off the laptop because he is “legally blind.” He then said that the customer had identified himself as Hunter Biden. The shop does have two cameras, but the owner claims that the footage from that day was automatically deleted before he realized how important it was.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...g-we-know.html
  • Nov 11, 2020, 01:38 PM
    jlisenbe
    It would be just real easy to resolve the whole thing. HB could give the FBI access to his email account and they could compare the two. For that matter, he could give the NY Post access to make the comparison. Someone could ask JB if the laptop belonged to HB. Has that question been asked? Or someone could ask HB if the laptop is his. There would be a lot of ways to resolve the problem, now wouldn't there?

    This does not sound good for HB. "The FBI has seized Hunter Biden's laptop and confirmed the former vice president's son's controversial emails are 'authentic', while dispelling earlier claims that they are part of a Russia disinformation campaign."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ps/ar-BB1aezOJ
  • Nov 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    For that matter, he could give the NY Post access to make the comparison.

    Eeeeewwwww! The NY Post???
  • Nov 11, 2020, 02:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    Take your pick. But his daddy is going the be the pres, so I'm sure it will disappear. In fact, it pretty much already has. His last name is not "Trump", so I suppose that you don't care. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 04:17 PM
    tomder55
    special prosecutors for Quid corruption ;to hand off what Durham has uncovered ;and possibly election irregularities . Dare Quid to fire them .
  • Nov 11, 2020, 04:41 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    special prosecutors for Quid corruption ;to hand off what Durham has uncovered ;and possibly election irregularities . Dare Quid to fire them .
    There is that hope.
  • Nov 11, 2020, 05:16 PM
    talaniman
    I seem to have gotten lost. What did the Biden's do that was illegal again?

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