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  • Oct 23, 2020, 04:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You behaved as I predicted.

    Meaning I read you correctly! I.e., you tried to set me up.

    Even a middle schooler would agree your question was very badly stated.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 05:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. Sure they would.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 07:47 PM
    talaniman
    You behaved predictably...like a nut! No wonder you asked a nutty question. You can't help yourself. You couldn't even clarify your question when asked.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 07:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    Always the same. Run out of ideas so start calling names. Sad. Learn to think.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 07:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Always the same. Run out of ideas so start calling names. Sad. Learn to think.

    I have tons of ideas for discussion!
  • Oct 23, 2020, 08:01 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Always the same. Run out of ideas so start calling names. Sad. Learn to think.

    I'm not the one asking dumb gotcha questions that you cannot clarify when asked. You should take responsibility for being a nut.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 08:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You should take responsibility for being a nut.

    Reminds me of this song:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVKUap1HgU
  • Oct 23, 2020, 08:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I have tons of ideas for discussion!
    It's hard to discuss anything with you because once you feel a little closed in, then you become evasive, but I suppose we can try tomorrow. I'll let you ask the question and then show you how to answer one.

    Quote:

    questions that you cannot clarify when asked.
    That's a completely and totally stupid comment. There was no problem with clarity since it was a simple and straightforward question. Your comment is what people say when they just don't want to answer.

    I do wonder where poor Dixie Chick went. I had hope for her.
  • Oct 23, 2020, 09:04 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's a completely and totally stupid comment. There was no problem with clarity since it was a simple and straightforward question. Your comment is what people say when they just don't want to answer.

    You're being disingenuous my friend and deceptive. You've tried those simple straightforward trap questions before to attack ones position, and ignored clarity by refusing to answer questions to that end. Your trap didn't work so you attack any way, knowing for fact a woman is NOT allowed such a late term abortion unless there is a danger to her life. There are all kinds of limits to our rights set by law, which complicates your simple straightforward question.

    Don't get mad because we saw through your trap question. That you think we would be dumb enough to fall for it is the sad part. It's fine if you don't agree with the law, but don't blame citizens for living by it. Be so simple if you had just clarified whether or not the woman's life was in danger or not. No you couldn't do that because as you admitted your intention was attack, not discuss.

    That was stupid of you.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 02:10 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Don't get mad because we saw through your trap question.
    Trap question? Well, there are simple, straight forward questions that some honest people answer, but that others who are afraid will run from like the plague. That's what I presented to you. There was no need to clarify that the woman's life was not in danger since that was made obvious from the beginning when I said she simply changed her mind and didn't want a baby. For anyone able to read and think, it was obvious. That you guys are terrified of the question was made clear by your refusal to answer it. It's a fear that stems from holding a position that is illogical and morally indefensible. That's why I said from the beginning that you would not answer it, and that proved to be completely correct. You sometimes do, but not the others.

    Quote:

    That was stupid of you.
    Try coming up with an original thought.

    Quote:

    It's fine if you don't agree with the law, but don't blame citizens for living by it.
    Would that have been good advice for those opposed to slavery in 1860? It's really a reprehensible position. "The law allows for the killing of unborn children, so just accept it like a good little comrade and move on. Certainly you wouldn't want to voice any opposition or think for yourself. After all, you must follow the lead of your beloved dem leaders."
  • Oct 24, 2020, 04:44 AM
    tomder55
    DixieChick66 Hi again . Back to topic ; I recommend this new released documentary movie on Amazon .It can be rented at a reasonable price and explains the Russian collusion hoax and coup attempt by the exiting Obama Adm (including Joe Biden) ;and their unconstitutional use of the Federal Law enforcement and Intelligence agencies to first spy on ,and then remove Trump from office.

    https://smile.amazon.com/Plot-Agains...s%2C169&sr=8-2
  • Oct 24, 2020, 06:02 AM
    jlisenbe
    Tom, the video is free is you're on Amazon Prime.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 06:13 AM
    tomder55
    as much as I use Amazon I should be . But what I do is set up my purchases to maximize the $ amt so I qualify for free shipping . I try to limit my entertainment budget otherwise . The director of the movie is Amanda Milius . Her father John Milius wrote and directed 'Red Dawn' . That was about a fictional Russian invasion. This movie is about another fictional Russian invasion.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 06:22 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    That was about a fictional Russian invasion. This movie is about another fictional Russian invasion.
    Clever!
  • Oct 24, 2020, 08:39 AM
    talaniman
    Clever FICTION.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 09:33 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Clever FICTION.
    Absolutely correct. The entire story about Russian collusion was a grand fiction.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 09:34 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'll let you ask the question and then show you how to answer one.

    You'll let me ask a question and show me how to answer one.... Talk about condescension!
  • Oct 24, 2020, 10:43 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You'll let me ask a question and show me how to answer one.... Talk about condescension!
    If you don't want to hear that, then try answering questions. Plainly someone needs to show you how it's done. Not trying to be condescending at all, but just being honest.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 11:24 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I recommend this new released documentary movie on Amazon .It can be rented at a reasonable price and explains the Russian collusion hoax and coup attempt by the exiting Obama Adm (including Joe Biden) ;and their unconstitutional use of the Federal Law enforcement and Intelligence agencies to first spy on ,and then remove Trump from office.

    The video is nothing more than a bizarre swipe at Biden. To believe it, you must believe the entire US Intelligence apparatus is a vast left-wing conspiracy. That is a theory that originates in the far-right madness.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 12:57 PM
    tomder55
    no not the Entire US Intelligence apparatus . Just the FBI leadership under Comey ;along with John Brennan (CIA) and James Clapper(DNI) and of course the emperor and Quid . The Main Conspirators were in the Jan 5 2017 meeting .
  • Oct 24, 2020, 01:54 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no not the Entire US Intelligence apparatus . Just the FBI leadership under Comey ;along with John Brennan (CIA) and James Clapper(DNI) and of course the emperor and Quid . The Main Conspirators were in the Jan 5 2017 meeting .

    Yes, the leadership, not the rank and file.

    The rest is true - echoing Trump's "Russian Hoax" business, and his "fake news" and his "conspirators theory" is complete and utter nonsense that has become a mantra of the loony right-wing fringe.

    Do you seriously believe that Obama is guilty of treason and should be executed as Trump suggests. If so, I got a bridge in Brooklyn for you that's for sale.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    Trump has suggested Obama committed Treason. Where do you find that he has said that Obama should be executed?
  • Oct 24, 2020, 02:07 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Trump has suggested Obama committed Treason. Where do you find that he has said that Obama should be executed?

    The penalty for treason is death. Trump didn't have to say Obama should be executed; it's a package deal.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 02:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The penalty for treason is death. Trump didn't have to say Obama should be executed; it's a package deal.
    Fair enough.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 03:21 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Do you seriously believe that Obama is guilty of treason and should be executed as Trump suggests
    Yes I think in the end the emperor was responsible . That is why Rice wrote the CYA email . Exceution of the emperor would not heal the wound. I just want acknowledgment and reforms so it can never happen again
  • Oct 24, 2020, 03:24 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I just want acknowledgment and reforms so it can never happen again
    Just about right.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Exceution of the emperor would not heal the wound.

    But if it did, I take it that you would approve of execution?
  • Oct 24, 2020, 03:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    If he was indeed guilty of treason, then what would you think? What more serious form of treason would exist than that committed by one of our presidents?
  • Oct 24, 2020, 04:12 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    But if it did, I take it that you would approve of execution?
    useless hypothetical. It aint happening .
  • Oct 24, 2020, 04:26 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    useless hypothetical. It aint happening .

    Ok, I don't like hypotheticals either. But I hope you wouldn't approve of execution. I don't think you've gone TOTALLY over to the dark side. I think you're still salvageable.
  • Oct 24, 2020, 06:50 PM
    tomder55
    He should be charged and then pardoned after there is a full accounting of what he and his administration did .... like Nixon
  • Oct 24, 2020, 08:00 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He should be charged and then pardoned after there is a full accounting of what he and his administration did .... like Nixon

    Would you care to show us where this "full accounting" can be found?
  • Oct 25, 2020, 01:28 AM
    jlisenbe
    I don't know of any more incredible conspiracy than that of the major news services to NOT cover the latest Hunter Biden story. The stain on their credibility will be long-lasting, and it verifies beyond argument that they are in the tank for the Biden campaign. It's so bad that JB has not had a press conference since September. All of the momentum is with Trump. It's a mystery to me why JB is closing so weakly.

    Do you think it was telling on Thursday's debate that JB did not deny the authenticity of the emails on HB's laptop?
  • Oct 25, 2020, 03:12 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Would you care to show us where this "full accounting" can be found?
    already in motion with the declassification of documents . A trial ;a truth commission as I already suggested . The best way is the old fashion way . One by one move up the ladder with indictments and let each of them rat out the other . There is already enough evidence to charge Comey's underlings .
  • Oct 25, 2020, 05:01 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    already in motion with the declassification of documents . A trial ;a truth commission as I already suggested . The best way is the old fashion way . One by one move up the ladder with indictments and let each of them rat out the other . There is already enough evidence to charge Comey's underlings .

    So you don't have a full accounting yet. Just a desire to take down those you disagree with. That's what I thought.
  • Oct 25, 2020, 05:27 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    So you don't have a full accounting yet. Just a desire to take down those you disagree with. That's what I thought.
    You must think we're talking about the impeachment process against Trump.
  • Oct 25, 2020, 04:11 PM
    talaniman
    The dufus accountability will come from the outcome of the election. Even if he eeks out a win will he have a house and senate behind him? Hope not...GO JOE GO!
  • Oct 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    GO JOE GO!
    Reminds me of an old cheer we used to use in college.

    Go Joe Go
    Go Joe Go
    Around the bowl and down the hole
    Go Joe Go

    8D
  • Oct 25, 2020, 05:21 PM
    talaniman
    I suppose that's better than Dump the dufus! 8)
  • Oct 25, 2020, 05:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Biden down the hole. I like it.

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