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If you really believe that then start a business here and show us how it should be done. Every worker is free to work for whoever that person chooses and to make him/herself more valuable with better skills. Free enterprise has helped us develop to the amazing level we presently occupy. I never cease to be amazed at the complainers.
I'm sure that comment will go over great through the rust belt. Better yet how about those workers in Indiana who's jobs the dufus and Pence? Or Salem, Virginia?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...seas-factories
And
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1F02TL
Or the coal miners for that matter. Tell a 40/50 year old guy with kids and a mortgage how free he is to work anywhere else. Not to mention all those jobs that depended on that factory like suppliers, restaurants, and diners drying up and losing health care insurance.
Yeah bud, you should visit those ghost towns and tell them to stop complaining. Should I pick you up and visit my hometown?
Tal, you can't mean that the fallacies in the system are starting to show, seismic cracks are appearing because the B/S no longer works, utopia lost and all because of a virus. In a pandemic universal health care is essential, it can no longer be confined to the employed or the rich who can afford to buy insurance. And employment, who remembers it outside of the cities and the plush officesQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Tal, those situations have always existed and always will. The most skilled person in the buggy whip factory no longer has a job. It happens in socialist economies as well. Still, if you are a butcher, then you can move from job A to job B if job B is more attractive. That's how it works. Every trucking company in America is looking for drivers. There's an answer, and its just one of many. We have had an amazing economy the past several years until Covid hit, and even now it's bouncing back. If you don't believe that, then move to Europe and give us a report.
Bounce back is very selective, relies on CV19 having passed on
By "bounced back", I was referring to the jobs numbers for July and August which were FAR better than expected. It is plain that business people trust Trump with the economy. I think the decision has been made that we will not drive the economy into a major depression because of the pandemic.
sensible until the third wave
Fourth wave. Fifth wave. Makes no difference. We will get an entirely new definition of misery if we allow our economy to slip into another Great Depression. Very few Americans or Aussies really understand what hardship is.
Business people trust the feds pumping trillions into the stock and credit markets while ordinary Americans wait for the congress to act. They went on vacation instead. July and August have come and gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Pumping in trillions like Obama did?
"They went on vacation instead." Well, it's the dems who control the House and the House has to write revenue bills. Have you been critical of the dems for that?
Nope because dems did their job and passed a bill while Mitch and the repubs did not. It's still sitting on his desk waiting for action! Obama passed a stimulus bill after taking office and guided the economy from a freefall created by greedy rich guys trying to steal the money. Totally irrelevant to CURRENT EVENTS, just being a booty!
They passed a bill packed with more pork than could be found in Iowa. They wanted to spend an additional three trillion dollars, and wanted to include checks for 1200 dollars again, most of which would have gone to people who did not need them. So no, they did not do their jobs. And they would not negotiate honestly to arrive at something reasonable. Truth is, the economy is recovering well enough that a stimulus is not needed other than in attempting to buy votes. And unlike what you imply, the Senate does have it's own bill, a much more targeted and reasonable one.
Read it and weep.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahha.../#3a63459e5959
The senate did NOT pass a bill in June so show me where they have. Dry your eyes and show me the bill you claim they passed.
Hmmm. Looks like the Atlantic is rethinking their story about Trump. Be interesting to see if anyone here feels the need rethink their allegations.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...untrue-n903238
"This admission by Goldberg completely undermines his entire story. Goldberg claimed the trip wasn’t canceled because of weather. Evidence proves this claim is false. Goldberg now admits that weather causing the cancellation is true. Why should we believe anything else in the story when the foundation of it is admitted to be incorrect?"
What's up with you an these far right wing digital rags and why are you ignoring my question on the bill you said the senate passed?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
CNN is a right wing digital rag??? Really? Did you bother to listen to the CNN interview where they blow up his silly story about Trump just refusing to go the cemetery, and where it became clear that he had not even ONE named source? How far does your hatred of Trump carry you?
Please be a little more careful reader and note that I did not say they passed a bill. I said they have one. As I understand it, the bill has not been voted on since they had been in active negotiations with the dems on a compromise package, negotiations which were not successful.
Now that I think of it, you never have given your opinion of the fact that the economy created 10 times more manufacturing jobs in Trump's first 21 months than in Obama's final 21 months. Here is your economic genius speaking.
Always good to have a pres with a magic wand.Quote:
At a town hall in June 2016, President Obama famously said that some manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.” He went on to mock then-candidate Trump by saying he’d need a “magic wand” to make good on this manufacturing job promises.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#43a2127b5850
Your link was to PJ Media, and grounding the helicopter doesn't change the rest of the reportingQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Point taken, as Mitch didn't have the votes to pass any bill, and may not be able to pass a smaller bill. Still its 4 months later and no results from repubs even if the Senate let the WH try to do their job for them.Quote:
Please be a little more careful reader and note that I did not say they passed a bill. I said they have one. As I understand it, the bill has not been voted on since they had been in active negotiations with the dems on a compromise package, negotiations which were not successful.
I tend to take a longer view as the devils in in the details of a bigger picture rather than narrow talking points. From last year, a year after your own assertion link.Quote:
Now that I think of it, you never have given your opinion of the fact that the economy created 10 times more manufacturing jobs in Trump's first 21 months than in Obama's final 21 months. Here is your economic genius speaking.
Always good to have a pres with a magic wand.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#20f4104b5850
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...rt/4249422002/
I honestly wish the dufus knew what he was doing and not just short term quick ineffective fixes, but his proclivity to throw things together to boost his own self esteem is disgusting and dangerous to the people it affects. You aren't affected by his BS, but many others are and you got what you wanted, hope you're happy, but consider those that were hopeful, but end up screwed.
As I suspected, you didn't watch the video which was CNN.Quote:
Your link was to PJ Media, and grounding the helicopter doesn't change the rest of the reporting
How convenient for you. Just remember that magic wand. Trump has it. Obama plainly did not.Quote:
I tend to take a longer view as the devils in in the details of a bigger picture rather than narrow talking points. From last year, a year after your own assertion link.
Yeah. Those historic lows for unemployment were no doubt some sort of anomaly. It's kind of like saying that the coach of the New England Pats doesn't know what he's doing. Anyone who wanted a job ended up happy.Quote:
I honestly wish the dufus knew what he was doing
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.2J_Eg...5&pid=3.1&rm=2Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Wow. That magic wand was even better than I thought!
Saw the video, Goldberg stuck to his story. His word against the dufus.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That's what he and you say. Nice spin, meaningless drivel.Quote:
How convenient for you. Just remember that magic wand. Trump has it. Obama plainly did not.
Who couldn't build on what was a solid foundation? Even HC! Like Obama when he was elected, if Biden wins, he has a helluva job in front of him. Starts with getting covid under control, and helping people through it.Quote:
Yeah. Those historic lows for unemployment were no doubt some sort of anomaly. It's kind of like saying that the coach of the New England Pats doesn't know what he's doing. Anyone who wanted a job ended up happy.
The coach of the Pats has real talent proven through the years, so does the dufus, a proven liar, cheater, crook and bully, proven through the years.
You righties spin so much and so hard for the dufus you're dizzy!
Historic lows in unemployment and 10X more manufacturing jobs in his first 21 months than in Mr. Obama's last 21 months.
Winning the Super Bowl.
Starting to see it now? Yes, you will have to open your intentionally shut eyes to see it.
And not to mention this. "After historic Israel-UAE flight, other Muslim-majority countries considering to follow suit. It was the first direct commercial passenger flight ever between the two countries."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel...dle-east-peace
And all of this happening after the U.S. recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capitol.
After near historic lows from almost historic highs that Obama achieved? Is that a fair statement? Is it also a fair statement the dufus inherited a growing economy? I think it's a fair statement the dufus wants ALL the credit, and shares NONE with anyone else, and you agree with him on that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Comparing Belichick to the dufus is stupid! That's a fair statement too, as well as are your eyes as open as you want mine to be?
We can only wait and see the implications and outcomes as it certainly benefits the Israelis.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I would agree that Obama managed to achieve the slowest GDP growth of any recovery from recession in sixty years, and even at that had to double the national debt. Now if that's the supposedly high powered economy that you seem to think Trump inherited, then so be it.
Comparing Belichick to Trump is a comparison of leadership. You hate Trump, so you simply don't even consider it.
Read em and weep.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/9...0455886722.jpg
I reject your premise that slower growth is a bad thing, or faster growth is a good thing. I will point out that Belichick had an excellent organization to build a team for the long term, while the dufus dominates a team of sycophants and white collar criminals more akin to a MOB boss than a professional governing body.
I weep because you ignore the dufus jailbirds and the biggest impediment to a great economy at this time and that's the dufus incompetence to lead a recovery by controlling the economy destroying COVID virus!
Well of course you do, considering that Obama had slow growth and Trump has had faster growth. It would follow as the night follows the day. Only a died in the wool Obama sycophant (Yeah, I copied your word) would make such a statement. No economist on the planet would agree with you.Quote:
I reject your premise that slower growth is a bad thing, or faster growth is a good thing.
Unstop your ears and open your eyes. The U.S. economy has weathered this virus better than just about any other major world economy.Quote:
the biggest impediment to a great economy at this time and that's the dufus incompetence to lead a recovery by controlling the economy destroying COVID virus!
Pretty broad statement to cover and defend the dufus a$$. Slow but steady wins the race. Unless of course you prefer those get rich quick schemes that require little work or forethought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
If you ignore the death toll, rising as we speak which is easy when you put profits over people. Look around a see those that bear the brunt of the dufus open up the economy and ignore the virus.Quote:
Unstop your ears and open your eyes. The U.S. economy has weathered this virus better than just about any other major world economy.
Well Obama was certainly the master of slow. No doubt about that.
Speaking of slow, you right wing devious dufus defenders are cordially invited to weigh in on the CURRENT EVENT breaking in the news.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/proof-dufus-lies-his-off-847654.html
Trump gave another bizarre news conference re Woodward's book and his recording of Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Brook Baldwin summed it up nicely, "President Trump doubled down on his pack of lies. He wasn't trying to avoid a panic, he was trying to get re-elected".
You know you would think one thread is enough but now we have three saying the same thing
LOL -
This is too big for one thread Clete, and promises to be all over the news and we look forward to the dufus and his ilk defending him with the usual fake news, hoax, or some conspiracy crap, when we have his own words. Where are those right wing conservatives devious dufus defenders NOW?
Who gives such an interview in the first place but a dufus? 18 of them?
everything trump says and does is interpreted and blown up by liberal media, again read the transcript, listen to the interview, nothing to see here
You know you're a winger when you talk like one.
I am neither a winger of a dinger, but seek the balance it comes from living in a place where there is less extremism and partisan politicsQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You fooled me sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
"everything trump says and does is interpreted and blown up by liberal media, again read the transcript, listen to the interview, nothing to see here"
Sounds winger to me or you Aussies sound just like Americans sometimes.
Sometimes we speak the same language, sometimes not. Our perspective is unique since your outcomes have less impact on us than they do on you, we are, for the most part, interested observersQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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