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No never said I did . And if Trump had an underlying cardiacQuote:
Your source that says healthcare professionals are taking hydroxychloroquine? You know them personally?
arrhythmia issue then his doctor should advise against it . Otherwise it appears to be an effective course for people who may be otherwise have a high risk of exposure .
Hmmmmm........still no names - and pretty vague.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
A cardiac arrhythmia issue isn't a problem for him yet (as far as we know from dear Dr. Bornstein), but if he keeps taking hydroxychloroquine (if indeed he is), it WILL very possibly BECOME one. The way he was blinking his eyes and repeatedly closing them during his pronouncement yesterday, he may already be displaying the side effects of blurred vision and increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Btw, today Pence was asked if he too is taking hydroxychloroquine:
Asked in a Fox News interview if he was taking the drug, Pence said, "I'm not. But I would never begrudge any American taking the advice of their physician." "My physician has not recommended that, but I wouldn't hesitate to take the counsel of my doctor," he said. "Any American should do likewise."
In other words, "No, thanks."
I imagine Trump will continue to listen to his experienced, high quality physician, but you can call and advise him if you feel it is needed.Quote:
A cardiac arrhythmia issue isn't a problem for him yet (as far as we know from dear Dr. Bornstein), but if he keeps taking hydroxychloroquine (if indeed he is), it WILL very possibly BECOME one. The way he was blinking his eyes and repeatedly closing them during his pronouncement yesterday, he may already be displaying the side effects of blurred vision and increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid.
If they're that wonderful, I'd advise him to get even healthier by taking two or three a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Well by all means call them and let them know! 8D
Don't tempt me. I love to call people (it's the librarian in me). I'd even call YOU!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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please don't tell me you would go that far?
Clete you see Trump says he is taking the cocktail after consulting with his physician and the left interprets that as he is drinking fish tank cleaner . The truth is that if we waited for them this would be a 2 year shutdown (or at least until October ;as their only concern here is the opportunity to defeat Trump in November ;not the possibility of a treatment ...that can wait .) Once the card board cut out they will nominate becomes POTUS ,all of a sudden the narrative will change to how effective quinine has been .... as it has been for a century in treating various disease .
Be more accurate to say most people think the dufus is hocking fish oil, like he hocks other things like water, steaks, and ties, phony schools, sports, or his own charity.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The real truth is that dems are watching repubs reopen at warp speed and hock a phony treatment with no evidence that it works, to hide the fact that the real danger is spikes in infections with no way to stop it. Repubs are so desperate they are willing to sacrifice others for a return to making MO'MONEY, without spending a dime on health and safety.Quote:
The truth is that if we waited for them this would be a 2 year shutdown (or at least until October ;as their only concern here is the opportunity to defeat Trump in November ;not the possibility of a treatment ...that can wait .)
Making the dufus a one term president is a laudable goal for the politics and policy of the country just as it was for the repubs to obstruct Obama for the same political end right?Quote:
Once the card board cut out they will nominate becomes POTUS ,all of a sudden the narrative will change to how effective quinine has been .... as it has been for a century in treating various disease .
Exactly correct. The left will do anything to gain power.Quote:
The truth is that if we waited for them this would be a 2 year shutdown (or at least until October ;as their only concern here is the opportunity to defeat Trump in November
Repubs will do anything to keep power. Lot at stake politically for both parties. Repubs have a disadvantage though I think, with dismissing this virus and pushing for people to go back to work and risk sickness and death. I just don't think that will be so well received in general, though popular with some out of a very real fear of being unable to maintain or sustain the fruits of their labor. Who gets blamed for the execution of the congresses actions will also be crucial as we have seen Mnuchin say he hasn't spent a large portion of funds of the second round of relief money, and rich guys scarfed up the first round money sent to banks who catered to favored clients. Add to that the states budgets being decimated by the virus, and the antiquated safety net systems being overwhelmed you have a recipe for a slow response bordering on incompetence.
Doesn't help that the dufus peddles snake oil and badmouths everybody who questions his warp speed opening of the economy, while censoring the truth about the virus. Breeding fear, through uncertainty and chaos. Such divisiveness, when we need unity seldom works well for anyone.
You implying America can succeed despite whatever the dufus does? I think I've said that before. Be nice to remove him, his noise, and antics from the equation but that's hard since he loves to dominate the air waves. Then we have these squabbles popping up.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/do...?ocid=msedgntp
and
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/c...-data/2365369/
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Tom, you do know the difference between quinine and hydroxychloroquin, don't you?
Oh, and btw, there's no point in posting a link to Trump News since that cable channel has zero credibility.
Much better to post links for those famously impartial sites like NBC, NYTimes, CNN, or, best of all, the Washington Post. If there is an outlet with any less credibility than NBC, I haven't heard of it.
It's FOX (aka Trump) News. now you've heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Didn't meet the criteria.
After Chuck Todd's disgraceful performance of last weekend, I'm amazed that anyone watches it other than the "I hate Trump" crowd.
I'm amazed how you far right loonies ignore Trump's now 18,000+ documented lies, half-truths, and omissions - and you equate his record with some obscure Democrat who was caught in one lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Same with FOX (TRUMP) NEWS - they have been lying on a DAILY basis for at least three and a half years and you equate that record with one lie (which, btw, drew an apology - has FOX EVER apologized?) from MSNBC.
You have a curious way of doing math.
Anybody's math would be curious if they had their head shoulder deep up dufus A$$ for 3 years. Of course those so afflicted will never deny it, but they will deny everything about the dufus. I have PROOF!
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/
Or to be charitable, maybe the loons figured out a way to keep the dufus from peeing on their head and claiming it's raining!
I don't care if you don't like the source . I note that when I post from Fox the content is never disputed . But if it makes you feel better ;here is an alt link Maybe you can stop boring us with your critiques of Fox news . It really is tedious. Do you dispute the content ? Of course not .
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...also-found.htm
So helpful and positive!*smirk*Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
"There is little data about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has cited cardiotoxicity as a leading concern with the treatment, particularly in patients with underlying health issues and immunosuppression."
And healthcare workers take it voluntarily??? They must be Republican.
Also, from that same source:
"According to this week’s Sermo COVID-19 Real Time Barometer of 5,158 physicians, one-quarter of global physicians agree that healthcare workers should take hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 infections with 50% having used or seen hydroxychloroquine used in their professional settings since March 25, 2020."
Um, what's one quarter of 5,158?
Ya beat me to it, Girl of Wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I think the claim of widespread use of the dufus drug by heath care professionals to prevent infections is a gross exaggeration. I suppose that's why the WH is looking for doctors to support reopening the economy without meeting health benchmarks.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronav...my-coronavirus
And that would be located where?Quote:
18,000+ documented lies, half-truths, and omissions
Must be a slow day if you guys are still talking about the pres taking hydroxycholorquine. He cleared it with his doctor, a man who, unlike any of you, spent his entire adult life studying medicine. That's good enough for me, but I guess all of you professional healthcare experts will continue to talk about for one reason and one reason only: It involves Trump.
Nope. His personal doctor refused to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for him, so he prevailed upon a WH doctor "after having several discussions with him."Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I maintain Trump is taking (IF he is actually taking) something shaped like hydroxychloroquine, such as glucosamine or acetaminophen. The WH doctor certainly isn't insane!
He is the pres, like it or not and our greatest freedom is to criticize him for all the dumb stuff he says and does. Lying constantly is certainly one of those things and over his presidency hardly a day goes by that he isn't caught in a lie, half truth, or dumb statement.
He is a proven consistent liar! This is but one of many articles available on THAT subject.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/polit...eck/index.html
Yes. I'm sure that's true. They came up with a Tylenol shaped like a hydroxychloroquine pill in order to fool WG, but she caught on to them, clever woman that she is!!Quote:
I maintain Trump is taking (IF he is actually taking) something shaped like hydroxychloroquine, such as glucosamine or acetaminophen. The WH doctor certainly isn't insane!
You really believe that?
Yep! His personal doctor said no. The WH doctor was smart enough to "prescribe" a placebo, IF Trump is taking anything at all -- or is just trying to drive up hydroxychloroquine's market share by saying he's taking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Hmmm. I think someone else might need a doctor. Just sayin.
Please call your primary and ask him to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
(The above is from Jl re the location of Trump's 18,000+ documented lies, half-truths, and omissions.)Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Glad to oblige. Here's the main list.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/
There are others - from Politifact, The Toronto Star, Bill Moyers, Politico, Buzzfeed, The Daily Wire, The New York Times - all from various stages in Trump's presidency. FactCheck.org has the recent lies re Codiv-19 updated to today.
The Washington Post is the most complete since they've been tracking the lies since day one of the presidency.
One of my favorites is Forbes reporting on Trump claiming he was first in his class at Wharton. That was a whopper!
Enjoy.
They put this forward as being a prime example. “Hydroxychloroquine -- I don't know, it's looking like it's having some good results. That would be a phenomenal thing.” In what way is that a false claim? There have been studies which indicate that could very well be true. Sure makes the whole thing seem bogus.
Then no doubt you are even more dismayed at Biden's claim to have graduated in the upper half of his class (76th out of 85) with three degrees (only one), of being named outstanding student in the Political Science Department (nope), and of being on a full academic scholarship (it was a half scholarship)? Oh wait. I forgot that you operate with a double standard in politics. My bad.Quote:
One of my favorites is Forbes reporting on Trump claiming he was first in his class at Wharton. That was a whopper!
Wow! The solid medical science information in that makes my brain hurt!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
This will REALLY make it hurt.
India Authorizes Hydroxy-Chloroquine For Coronavirus Infection Prevention.
https://www.precisionvaccinations.co...id-19-patients
Some confusion here since this drug has been shown to be effective in treating the infected, logic may suggest it might be a preventative and in India malaria is endemic so I can see why they might use it but should I take penicillin also just in case
And studies that reported patients dying from the drug - Brazil and the VA. Still think the whole thing is bogus?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
And what about the 17,999 lies you failed to mention?
No, I'm far more dismayed with Trump who is lying as I type this. Biden was reported by the Washington Post at the time which was about 35 years ago. Do you have a list citing Biden's other thousands to keep up with lyin' Donald? Maybe from a little more recently? No, I didn't think so.Quote:
Then no doubt you are even more dismayed at Biden's claim to have graduated in the upper half of his class (76th out of 85) with three degrees (only one), of being named outstanding student in the Political Science Department (nope), and of being on a full academic scholarship (it was a half scholarship)? Oh wait. I forgot that you operate with a double standard in politics. My bad.
Once a Liar always a liar so it doesn't matter, once you are caught out you are a liar
His statement was that, "it's looking like it's having some good results." There is plenty of evidence to support that. To say it's a lie is ridiculous, and it makes it obvious that those 18,000 lies are more a matter of a difference of opinion.
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