Great quote. The founding fathers understood this business of governance very well.
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Great quote. The founding fathers understood this business of governance very well.
The founding fathers understood the business of division very well
Depends on what you mean by division. It was not meant to be a division of enemies but a separation of powers. Has worked very well.
Hope you have plenty of lemon
As we get new cases of the coronavirus over a thousand so far, cities are being shutdown, schools closed including colleges, and the congress is preparing a stimulus package for well some citizens any way. This thing is growing rapidly.
Everybody stay home until next year and the government will feed and shelter you and supply free netflix and popcorn. The election will be held on line and by phone in November.
Here we have the unique confluence of both Corona and Lyme .
1st known cases of Covid 19 were in December . The People's Republic of China hid it initially as they celebrated Chinese New year throughout January . Trump's travel ban to and from China began the end of February (you remember that because he was call racist and xenophobic for it .) From December until the end of February there were anywhere from 2,200 -7000 people entering into the US from China. Meaning that in that time period there were up to a half million Chinese travelling here . We have had this disease here much longer than we think .
They're predicting a third or half the population will be affected after they get some tests done. Don't know when that will be but the dufus says the kits are here, and more coming and doctors say where? You working from home yet Tom?
we finally understand the coronavirus plot, a plot to rid the world of toilet paper, I have a bidet. do you?
I'm old school Clete, a magazine will do in a pinch, don't hit the head without one.
Yes they just issued us with new telephone books
There you go, who needs toilet paper when you have the already yellow pages?
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for years I have put in my 8 at the office and another 4 at home .Quote:
You working from home yet Tom?
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I have a bidet. do you?
I tried that when I lived in Iran . Stopped doing it because I always thought I was having an enema
I hear madam Mim is using the pages of the SOTU address she ripped upQuote:
There you go, who needs toilet paper when you have the already yellow pages?
April 2009 1st case H1N1 detected in US .
The emperor says US health care officials are "monitoring " the situation.He told usto take the same precautions we would to prevent any other flu. “Wash your hands, cover your mouth when you cough. Stay home from work if you’re sick.” And he assured us the government would do whatever it takes to keep Americans safe.
Madam Mim and Harry Reid were too preoccupied trying to pass Obamacare to worry about a heath crisis in the country .
By October, Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the CDC said that“millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died.” The emperor declared an emergencyOctober 24, 2009.On November 12, 2009, the CDC announced that22 million Americans had been infected with H1N1 and 4,000 Americans had died.
Compare that to Trump's response .
December 31 China FINALLY admits to the WHO there is a cluster in Wuhan .On January 31 Trump declared a public health emergency and starts quarantine procedures for Americans who have been to China .Flights filled with U.S. citizens who were in Wuhan were brought to America and those people were quarantined on U.S. military bases for two weeks.The disease had been declared a public health emergency one month before the first U.S. death. Trump initiated a travel ban from China .
Yes, but what Obama did was better because...well, it just was.
We can compare better when we get to the 6 month mark, but having had that experience I would hope they can act sooner. I don't expect the dufus to rebuild Rome in a day.
Had a change of heart Tal? I thought you considered him the devil incarnate and therefore able to create great illusionsQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
No change in heart Clete, just a practical acknowledgement as to the task before him. It's a HUGE challenge for anybody, and maybe moreso for this dufus. He can't talk his way through this with bluster and BS, and his sycophants can't chant and cheer his antics and rhetoric as things get worse either. Well they can, and do, but a sound bite means nothing to those sick and suffering or facing a huge economic challenge from this pandemic.
I mean how hard is it to tell the country all hell is breaking loose, and hunker down in a safe place?
that would be the typical Dem response ..and they will tell you that if they pick your pocket or the rich person's pocket then they can make things better . Note the way they are applying the Rham Emanuel principle to the bill going through Congress. What does abortion protection have anything to do with the Wuhan Virus ? Are they upset that not enough young people are dying ?Quote:
I mean how hard is it to tell the country all hell is breaking loose, and hunker down in a safe place?
Suck it up! People have to keep going, have to keep working! We can't shutdown the country over a damned flu bug! What about power plants? Do you want the power plant workers to stay home and not come to work? Then everyone will be ing and moaning about being hot or cold...and no hot water for a shower! This is the biggest OVER_REACTION in history: The people have become the biggest wusses ever! WEAK! Both mentally and psychologically!
Yep. That is always the battlecry of the dems.Quote:
they will tell you that if they pick your pocket or the rich person's pocket then they can make things better .
Which is, again, a large part of the reason we have such a large budget deficit. No one is thinking we need to control spending. It's like giving your immature teenager a credit card. And if your immature teenager is a democrat, then it's doubly dangerous.Quote:
What does abortion protection have anything to do with the Wuhan Virus ? Are they upset that not enough young people are dying ?
Feed the sick and children and stop whining about what it costs! Call it a holiday! Decades of spending and now you worry? LUNACY! It was robbery then, it's robbery now, and you're to dumb to call a cop?
I already know, from sad past exchanges, that you are not talking about yourself. Amazing how easy it is to be bold with everyone else's money, isn't it?Quote:
Feed the sick and children and stop whining about what it costs!
I'm the only one of the two of us that has ever had any worry about spending. Lunacy? Yes. Spending money like there's no tomorrow is lunacy. I would have hoped that you would have had some concern for the future of your grandchildren, but apparently not.Quote:
Call it a holiday! Decades of spending and now you worry? LUNACY!
Most of my grand kids are grown, and VOTE. They think for themselves and were taught how to strive to thrive and survive no matter what lunatics like you may say, and pray for the ones with life and BS all screwed up. We are for a government that treats everybody with the dignity and respect that should be afforded every citizen equally despite what he has in the bank, and be there to always take care of the least and needy among us. That's just Good Orderly Direction, because we never know when we will be the least or the needy. Stuff happens and our ancestors didn't endure the hardships they did to listen to those that tell them what they should do, and how it's done.
I just ain't buying what you're selling and that's been obvious from the start, and I understand you have no use for my approach to the reality of this life. That's cool, you vote your way and live your own life, and I'll do the same and it's all good. Go whine to a cop if someone is stealing your money, not to me! That fat orange snake you worship steals your money and not a word from you so cry me a river, but stay in your own lane PLEASE.
You're free to advocate for what you want. It'd be nice if you and the other liberal dems had some idea of how to pay for it. And please don't start whining about the Trump tax cuts. That's about 200 billion versus a deficit of a trillion. You have to have a plan to pay for it.Quote:
We are for a government that treats everybody with the dignity and respect that should be afforded every citizen equally despite what he has in the bank, and be there to always take care of the least and needy among us. That's just Good Orderly Direction, because we never know when we will be the least or the needy. Stuff happens and our ancestors didn't endure the hardships they did to listen to those that tell them what they should do, and how it's done.
And your supposed concern for the "least and needy" among us has already been repeatedly exposed for being fake. You don't care about them. If you did, you would help them yourself. There is no nobility in trying to force other people to care for them.
How do you know he doesn't? Remember Matthew 6:2,3 -- "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
He has stated it. I have suggested he do so on several occasions. I'm not being ugly to him about it. It's just how it is.Quote:
How do you know he doesn't?
that actually does sound like the Democrat plan . Never consider the unintended consequences .Your soul is satisfied by your good intentions .Quote:
But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."
Burns my butt when bible thumpers preach one thing to you, and do another thing themselves. What are those unintended consequences Tom?
The House passed its covid19 response bill with the dufus giving his approval.
I can think of one unintended consequence ...... permaent dependency on the government .
That's what happens when abortion is forbidden and those unwanted babies are born.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
the left continues to bemoan that not enough children die
Yes. Much better, in your view I suppose, to kill those children. Otherwise we might have to go back to the old family model of a married father and mother having and responsibly raising children, and we certainly can't have that.Quote:
That's what happens when abortion is forbidden and those unwanted babies are born.
Ah, so happy to know you'll pitch in then to help me and others give what we can to feed and otherwise support those babies!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
So in your perfect world you want to 'return' to what happens with those unmarried women who get pregnant?
I'll be happy to. It's the least you can do since you support those who want to see these unborn children dead.Quote:
Ah, so happy to know you'll pitch in then to help me and others give what we can to feed and otherwise support those babies!
Go back to 1960 and look at the data. The out of wedlock birth rate then was a tiny fraction of what it is now. When the numbers are that low, then the situation is much easier to handle. Adoptions would easily take care of that number of children unless, of course, the single mom decided to raise the child herself.Quote:
So in your perfect world you want to 'return' to what happens with those unmarried women who get pregnant?
When you were 20 and got a young woman pregnant, didn't love her all that much, would you have married her?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You have no idea how many unreported homestyle abortions there were back then! Plus there were fewer people total than now.Quote:
Go back to 1960 and look at the data. The out of wedlock birth rate then was a tiny fraction of what it is now. When the numbers are that low, then the situation is much easier to handle. Adoptions would easily take care of that number of children unless, of course, the single mom decided to raise the child herself.
What difference does that make? The out of wedlock birth rate was single digits. It would be great to go back to that.Quote:
When you were 20 and got a young woman pregnant, didn't love her all that much, would you have married her?
Yes, and neither do you. I do know that it was a fraction of what we have now, and yet the out of wedlock birth rate has skyrocketed.Quote:
You have no idea how many homestyle abortions there were back then!
I really don't know why you bother to argue this other than to soothe your conscience concerning your open support of those who advocate for the legalized killing of unborn children.
The abortions that were REPORTED were in single digits....Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I'm a girl. What do you think girls whisper to each other about??? You guys are always clueless!Quote:
Yes, and neither do you. I do know that it was a fraction of what we have now, and yet the out of wedlock birth rate has skyrocketed.
I'm trying to get you to be realistic. 1960 was when the front end of the Baby Boomers was in its early teens. They were a frisky bunch, those Boomers!Quote:
I really don't know why you bother to argue this other than to soothe your conscience concerning your open support of those who advocate for the legalized killing of unborn children.
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