I wonder why.Quote:
Originally Posted by waltero
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I wonder why.Quote:
Originally Posted by waltero
Let me guess; Trump?Quote:
I wonder why.
I don't think there is a way outa this? War is imminent!
US forces preparing to evacuate hundreds of contractors from Lockheed Martin and Sallyport Group from Balad military base in Iraq
Probably a good idea, evacuate everybody who could be caught up in this crap.
What are those people doing there anyway, Iraq is a hostile place
Capitalist are just as dangerous as terrorist. You've seen the damages they can inflict.
In an interview with Meet the Press,to air tomorrow, Trump said he doesn't want war with Iran, but if it comes to that, there would be "obliteration like you've never seen before."
WASHINGTON—President Trump bucked most of his top national-security advisers by abandoning retaliatory strikes in Iran on Thursday. In private conversations Friday, Mr. Trump reveled in his judgment, certain about his decision to call off the attacks while speaking of his administration as if removed from the center of it. “These people want to push us into a war, and it’s so disgusting,” Mr. Trump told one confidante about his own inner circle of advisers. “We don’t need any more wars.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-b...Oxm4_8imms0Z1s
Capitalists are as dangerous as terrorists??? Oh brother. You need to go live in some of those shining examples of socialist success like Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Greece, Italy, or Russia. About six months later you would wet your pants to get back to the U.S. and live with all of us capitalist terrorists.Quote:
Capitalist are just as dangerous as terrorist. You've seen the damages they can inflict.
That's why the masses are arriving at our southern border.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
you know, so far Trump has done an excellent job of averting war, he has averted a war with NK, and now he has averted a war with Iran, he avoided a war in Syria and hasn't gone to war over Venezuela
That's my point. If it were me ,I would've gone with the advice of John Bolton. But I have to admit it. He did not run as a hardliner ;he said he would not engage in foreign wars as much as his predecessor did .And so far he is keeping his word to the point that he engages in silly negotiations with Un-Kim .Quote:
you know, so far Trump has done an excellent job of averting war, he has averted a war with NK, and now he has averted a war with Iran, he avoided a war in Syria and hasn't gone to war over Venezuela
He is having to clean up the mess left behind by Obama's absurd, ridiculous agreement with Iran in which he agreed to basically give them over 100 billion dollars, dial back on sanctions, and open the country to foreign investments, all in exchange for a paper thin agreement to roll back uranium enrichment. It was an outrageous concession that should never have been made. All of the Trump critics should begin with an acknowledgement that Obama completely mishandled the situation, but I doubt that will happen.
It was Iran's money. The money came from Iranian oil sales and was piling up in some international banks in escrow accounts over the years.Quote:
Obama's absurd, ridiculous agreement with Iran in which he agreed to basically give them over 100 billion dollars
Save your breath WG, because facts don't matter to the right wing loonies who are addicted to the red meat the dufus feeds them and you must admit they waited a long time to get someone to feed their crazy ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
He knew what Iran would do with the funds once they were released . A better idea would've been to use the money as compensation to all Iran's victims .Quote:
It was Iran's money.
Didn't matter what Iran would do. It was Iran's money.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
What a sad, sad excuse. We have tens of billions of dollars belonging to Iran, so we just go out and give it to them and say, "Hey, if they use it to build nukes or commit acts of terror or military aggression, then it wasn't our fault. After all, it was their money."Quote:
It was Iran's money. The money came from Iranian oil sales and was piling up in some international banks in escrow accounts over the years.
Good grief. You don't hand money over to maniacs under any circumstances. If someone's family member ends up as a victim of terror, then I guess you can comfort them with those words.
Truth is, Obama did it, so it must be OK. Yet another Obama loving excuse. It gets old.
When you bought your house, was the escrow money handed out to your future neighbors to prepay them for any faults you would perhaps commit or had committed elsewhere or to the local Baptist church to help others obtain a mortgage?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Think the dufus can obliterate the Iranians before they get one nuke built for the fleet in Gulfs? Or the vast network of terrorists they funded?
Like Trump, you hate Obama and misrepresent whatever he said or did. It gets old.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
How did I do that? I referenced what he did NOT do, not what he did.Quote:
"misrepresent whatever he said or did. It gets old.
Think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
In other words, you don't have the slightest idea.Quote:
Think about it.
Lol. There you go - back to the schoolyard comment again.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Again, think about it.
If you don't know, and you don't, then just admit it.
You're not thinking about it, are you? Come on, 'fess up.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Too juvenile.
Not really just "give it to them". More like, on the sly, underhanded. nobody was suppose to know about Dat!Quote:
We have tens of billions of dollars belonging to Iran, so we just go out and give it to them
Obama giveth a good deal and Trump Taketh away. Give em a Taste (false hope) of the good life then take it away...that's the way the Duke would've done it! It might even work.
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Originally Posted by waltero
In what universe do you think the good life existed in Iran before or after the Obama deal. Returning someone's money is not giving them anything. They conceded they would take a particular course of action but Dlckhead Trump decided no international treaty was safe from renegotiation because of his superior deal skills, non existent, because no better deals have been struck anywhere.
A more basic reason is Trump's desire to reverse anything Obama did while president. Trump's understanding of the treaty is zero. Although Trump claims to be a genius, a better characterization of him is the one made by his former Secretary of State Tillerson as an "effin' moron".Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
There is no justification for giving billions of dollars to international outlaws. It's on the level of giving money to Hitler in 39 and using the excuse that it was, after all, the German's money, or returning money to the Soviets in the middle of the Cold War. We would have been well advised to hold the money until Iran completely disposed of their nuke program, and then give them back the money over a period of years, dependent on their good international behavior. Obama's liberal ineptitude was on full display with that deal.Quote:
Returning someone's money is not giving them anything.
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You actually have no right to force Iran to do anything
I don't entirely agree with that, but even if I did, it would not excuse the U.S. participating in their mischief by sending money to them.Quote:
You actually have no right to force Iran to do anything
Alllowing them to access their money is not giving them anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The dufus is fighting everyone in the world practically both friend and foe and hasn't cut a deal yet. Nobody is coming to his side except his sideliners cheering him on here. Yeah I'm optimistic he will deliver or make things better (Sarcasm font lest you not understand). All this drama to make everybody forget what a dufus he is.
I mean what could be the purpose of all this public pablam and negotiating in front of a camera except to suck up all the TV time to promote himself in the middle of silly season. Seems before he moved the fleet and got his war plans he would make nice with the rest of the world community and gotten support instead of cowboy it alone. We don't get enough stuff ftom them to justify being the only force their so where is everybody else.
he just froze Iranian assets like they didn't learn a lesson from before about putting their money where we could get it. SHHEESH!
It is all classic american rhetoric, sort of like an old cowboy movie, no marks for guessing who the dashing hero in the white hat is. We know how this ends, the cavalry arrives, the indians are annihilated, and the hero gets the girl. We are in the runaway horse phase at the moment while the outlaws plotQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I couldn't have said it better. Now you know why you need so much popcorn for this made for TV politics. The dufus is a natural for the town boss running roughshod over the citizens. Or is he the horses a$$? Hard to tell sometimes.
It is beyond stupid to send money to tyrants. I don't care whose it is, if we give it to them, then we are participating in their crimes. It was Obama's greatest international gaffe, and now Trump is having to clean it up.Quote:
Alllowing them to access their money is not giving them anything
You mean that's worse than defending and selling guns to tyrant murderers of an American in Turkey? Whose cleaning up that mess? Or abusing migrant kids in El Paso? I guess defending Vlad on the global stage over our own intel community wasn't a very big gaff huh?
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