1. We are both up mighty early to be retired.
I'm always up early, I generally retire early too.
2. I'm not a huge fan of SS, but it is not welfare. They are not the same thing.
I love my SS! I feel I EARNED it, and more
3. The only way government has taken on the job of welfare is to borrow money like crazy. Otherwise, the tax rates would be much higher and no one would stand for it. So it's a song and dance they do with us.
I could find no reference to borrowing for welfare by feds or state governments, however the government adds to the deficit without pay fors when they cut taxes for rich guys, and to a vastly lesser extent for everyone else.
4. No American has any right to take money from another American without their agreement. That is the welfare system pure and simple. It is liberals trying to appear to be caring and generous so long as they can be caring and generous with someone else's money.
No American does, but we all pay the same taxes and a majority since the Great Depression wanted a Social Safety Net, I think I explained that already and clarified the distinction and note your disagreement to the whole thing. I sort of feel the same way about the military budget among other things.
5. Governments do not help "it's people". Government can only take money from one person by force and give it to another person, and then the members of that government can go about bragging that they care so much for humanity that they pour out help upon them with someone else's money. I despise that more than I can say. If a person helps with his/her own resources, then they are to be commended. If they insist on simply taking money from A to give to B, they are not to placed on a high plane.
History shows us that volunteers, churches, and private charity is woefully inadequate to meet the needs of the poor, children, and older folks, let alone those that are poor.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...tax-dollars-go
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...ending_40.html
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...nworking-poor/
So I take issue with governments don't, nor should help people, or that people don't need help, or that churches and charities alone are enough.
6. But since you have properly identified me as a "Bible thumper", then let me propose a Bible solution. In the OT, everyone was required to pay in 10% of their produce every third year for the purpose of helping the poor. If we want to start a special "welfare tax" of 3.3% every year for the purpose of funding welfare, and with the understanding that only that money can be used for welfare, then I could be talked into that.
Whatever taxes you paid go for welfare and military, and other spending (A WALL?), but in what percentages, I don't know, but old testament figures would I suspect, be inadequate. I'm still looking to break it down for clarity and verification.
I suppose that solving poverty would help wouldn't it? Hmm, it occurred to me that maybe identifying the causes of poverty would be a start and eliminating those CAUSES would be GREAT. Thoughts?
