The Dufus said he was draining the swamp. He's doing a great job on repub critters.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republi...retiring-2018/
Dems are suing ala the Watergate years.
https://gizmodo.com/democrats-sue-tr...ion-1825421936
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The Dufus said he was draining the swamp. He's doing a great job on repub critters.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republi...retiring-2018/
Dems are suing ala the Watergate years.
https://gizmodo.com/democrats-sue-tr...ion-1825421936
I expect the investigation wasn't yielding the right results, the demorats are now suing because they lost the elections
Clete yup . both Mueller and Rosenstein have told Trump he's not a target of investigation. Rudy joined Trumps legal team this week . He will focus on the Mueller investigation and not this side bar issue of Trump's NY lawyer Michael Cohen.
The Watergate lawsuit netted the Dems some cash .Nixon settled with them as he was walking out the White House door. This is different . When entering the civil law ring ,you are entering Trump's domain . And the laws of discovery are way different . Look out what you wish for . Every DemRat can be deposed under oath ..... Their servers searched(of course they have had a year to smash cell phones and bleach-bit the servers ) . Interesting thing is that it doesn't claim that the hacking of the DNC and Evita's illegal email server did not cost them the election. Instead it argues that the Dems lost fund raising opportunities. The first thing I would demand of them is proof of hacking . Just because WikiLeaks released transcripts does not mean they were hacked . Podesta was very careless with the DNC server ;and Evita in Comey's own words was careless.
This is all a half court jump shot trying to keep the story alive into the mid-terms.
Well, of course, if they can't campaign against Trump then they will have to get real on some other issues, They could have had a better health system by now, they could have dealt with DACA. A campaign on holding lost lines won't carry far, and lowering the voting age can only "help" them in the future, not now. Although gun reform might be needed, a campaign based on that can only bring them misery, but no real leadership has emerged.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Now if Trump just learns to shut up and not shoot the Republicants in the foot he might retain the support he needs to move forward
Not hard keeping things riled up against a lying, cheating, bully Dufus as the law closes in on him after rounding up his sycophant crew. Even Rudy, his new lawyer is under investigation. As the rats abandon the repub ship, some for bigger things, and the Speaker of the House calls it quits, the Twitter fool keeps digging his own demise when his words and actions don't match. Under repubs red states that support Trump has been squeezing local budgets and cutting taxes, and teachers are up in arms about low pay and no school books. It's not just about the Dufus and his policies, but their local leaders too. So keep hollering about Hillary while the voting public is sick of this TV drama, and feckless incompetent administration.
I suppose when Kim gets done playing him like Putin does Mueller, or the PEOPLE, will finish him off. Whichever comes first.
Be careful what you wish for
I wish I were Rich instead of HANDSOME, and this bloviated egotistical narcissistic occupier of the Oval Office get's stripped of his veneer of supremacy, and exposed for the lying, cheating, conman bully that he is. A republican loss of the house of representatives this fall would surely be a great start.
Wishful thinking
There seems to be a lot of people who may turnout for dems and a sitting president's party typically loses the house to the opposition party. It's more than just wishful thinking.
Tradition! Otherwise known as the protest vote
I prefer RESISTANCE to the governing party, it's a more apt and accurate description of the events of the last year or so.
You could also call it disillusionment or just political fatigue
It doesn't matter what you call it, or why! All that matters is progress is made to get the job done. Under the structures of our government and society November is when we see the next step. That's when the people will have their say. All the wishful thinking and b1tching and disillusionment stops with the reality of law. I've survived many Nogheads before, and will survive the ones now, and yet to come. Obviously I am not alone in this and that's just reality, in spite of the chaos The Dufus reeks.
You take a dim view of our ability to rise to the occasion Clete. That doesn't matter either.
Of course nothing I say matters, I just observe from afar, Tal
I can hear your snickers from here, so is there no sympathy for the likes of people like me who get a close up of this circus of corruption on a daily basis? I don't think I have ever seen this level of dysfunction on so many levels, and just when you think it can't get worse, The Dufus finds a way. The sight of the French president and our president slobbering over each other was a disgusting display even though the stakes are very real for us all as far as Middle East policy and trade goes.
Well, you scored the French President and we scored the French PM, much said about the important part Australia played in WWI to break the Germans. I think you should forget the middle east, all they want are your arms and aid, and you can get the oil much closer to home.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-2...ldiers/9695508
I feel sorry for your dysfunctional economy as I gaze upon our beautiful autumn days, it even rained last week, but this is what happens when you let the corporations rule. Our government is about to announce tax cuts on two levels, which is an extraordinary event. Nice to watch a Treasurer eating humble pie and he is doing it without benefit of Turncoat stealing the limelight
Our economy is not dysfunctional, it's as robust and dynamic as any in the world bar none. It's the greedy grubbers who seek to exploit it that's the problem, aided and abetted by this dysfunctional government administration headed by a complete idiot and his sycophants and the right wing loonies he has enthralled with his BS. Order will be restored once the disorderly are dispatched. That may take some time and that includes the ME.
I suppose the pomp and ceremony of the ruling heads has to be tolerated and Macron got a standing ovation for his speech to the congress but that doesn't diminish the challenges in front of us both in the populations of individual countries and on the perceptions of the world stage. The ME is but a part of that picture.
If it wasn't dysfunctional why did America need to be made great again? I expect you are in transition in a post industrial age just as we were. Because we were farther down the socialist ladder industries were given assistance to adjust and abandon non competitive industries like steel, clothing, dairy even automotive and power and so no rust belt, no abandoned suburbs and to embrace others. There is pain, but we move on not sit on our duff and hold a pity partyQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
https://townhall.com/columnists/john...draft-n2473193
I agree we are in a transition between the old industrial jobs and the new service economy. Thank you technology that made the use of many humans to do a job that is handled by robots or automation, or new technical advances. The campaign of The Dufus made a catchy slogan, but had no basis in reality. In truth we have grown jobs in other sectors since the transition began way back in the 70's. More about the Dufus,
Trump blasts those who take the Fifth, but he used it 97 times on adultery questions | Charlotte Observer
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Donald Trump criticized a particular group of people who invoked that right: former staff members of Hillary Clinton called on to testify about her setting up a private email server..So there are five of them taking the Fifth Amendment, like you see on the mob, right?” he said at another rally in Iowa, though it was three former Clinton staff members who pleaded the Fifth. “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
Breaking News
Another Dufus sycophant pleads the 5th Maybe the Dufus will take heed and do the same when Mueller calls him to be interviewed.
Why do they take the fifth? Because anything they say can, and will, be used against them. In a fishing expedition guilt doesn't matter, because it is guilt by association. Trump could be guilty of associating with his son in law, it is that ridiculous, and when someone is under investigation you do not want to be associated with them.
The fact is Trump, or anyone else, doesn't need to testify, because he has not been accused of anything more than being stupid
Have you ever heard of probable cause? That's what it takes to present to a judge to get a warrant of any kind. It's a standard foundation of any place that has a rule of law at it's foundation. Unfortunately we are also seeing that it takes money to hire the proper people to guide and advise you through this process and that lack of resources is what screws the average citizen.
To your post though if The Dufus surrounds himself with criminals then his stupidity is more than an accusation, it's a proven FACT. He has been asked to be interviewed not TESTIFY at this point. This is more than guilt by association, Clete, it's conspiracy. How deep and how far up the chain it goes is yet to be known but a credible case is slowly being built.
To dismiss those FACTS already in evidence is rather stupid and would be malfeasance. Not like you to defend a lying, cheating, Dufus, even though his lawyer had no choice but to protect himself against criminal charges and let the civil ones dangle out there in the wind. LOL we haven't even touched on the other sycophants of the Dufus who are embroiled in all kinds of controversy like his appointments to big jobs throughout his administration.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-congress.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.fc9e3b76b386
Nothing to see here move along? Fake news and witch hunts? Yeah right.
Probable cause, yes I found the door open after I kicked it in
Stick to counting beans Clete!
8O
I don't count beans anymore Tal, in fact as we had a lapse in power supply I took the time to sort out my coin collection.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I know you don't like my analogy but this is exactly what Meuller is doing. There is not probable cause that Trump colluded with the Russians, but why doesn't he look at Hilliary, there is more probable cause there, even a money trail. You know why, it is because he is a Hilliary sycophant
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270...-matthew-vadum
You right wing loonies always think that your conspiracy theories should be taken seriously. You still insist on chasing the past after decades of nothing to show and then back a bona fide lying cheating Dufus who may be insanely pathological criminal scum right in front of your face. How long are you going to wear that tin foil hate and think your in style?
About as long as left wing loonies like you wear theirsQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Do I really look as stupid in my tin foil hat as you do? I didn't know I was wearing one to be honest, as I never saw myself as being a left wing loony. Enlighten me if you can.
Why do they take the 5th ? Ask Lois Lerner .Why did Evita's IT staff take the 5th ? I would in no way disparage the 5th Amendment .It is a necessary right ,and it does not presume guilt . After the way I've seen special prosecutors use the perjury trap I would find it hard to recommend cooperation in investigations .Scooter Libby needed a pardon after falling into the perjury trap. Mueller used the technique well to clear his staff of anyone he did not want . It wasn't good enough to fire them .He had to drag their reputations through the mud.
I recommend everyone read ;“Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent” by Harvey Silvergate .Prosecutors actually do this as a game ....name a politician and then say which 3 charges they would get them on if they were pursuing them .That is their leisure time at the office .
It is now clear that Mueller's goal has been to notdiscover a crime, but create one. The goal was to scare Trump officials ,Trump's family and friends ,and Trump himself into committing minor process crimes .Even calling Trump a subject instead of a target is a trap.
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Come on Tal you mean you knocked up your tin foil hat in the kitchen. You have defended the left wing view here for a long time. I am not a right wing looney but a somewhat conservative. That means I don't think change is necessarily a good thing but some things need to change. Don't fix the things that work but definitely change the things that are broken.
Here is an example; in the last two weeks in my nation there has been an enquiry into banking, something the left pursued. The revelations coming out of that show criminal behaviour and a culture that is toxic towards the interests of the public. So change will happen, CEO's will resign and may be prosecuted, and so on down the chain, some institutions may collapse. One defendant collapsed while giving evidence
Earlier the right wing government pursued the Union movement and there is no doubt of criminality there, this darling of the left needs to be wrung out and laid flat
Both of these things were tin foul hat country
Here's Trump's answer - "The mob takes the fifth. If you're innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" Lololol - It just doesn't get any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Wait, this is better!
Trump's ACTUAL behavior regarding the Fifth --- Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment himself during his bitter divorce from Ivana Trump who accused him of rape in a written document and which she later walked back for the money. (The world is still laughing).
The Trump "I'm-the-President" Celebrity Show which airs daily on Twitter and his own network show FOX AND FRIENDS proves him to be ignorant, friendless, and without any effective legal guidance. Sad, yes, but he can't call his own utterances fake news, can he? I'm sure he wishes he could, especially when he later denies his own words without a flicker of shame.
In a few months, the show will be cancelled and the Great Imposter will recede into the dustbins of dark history.
Still smarting from the abject humiliation he received at the hands of his nemesis Barack Obama, Trump will again skip tonight's White House Correspondent's Dinner. When he's not in charge, his cowardly instincts always rise to the top - the mark of the bully.
I fail to see where banking has anything to with a centrist progressive like myself nor union corruption. Crime is not confined to political leanings. You sure that tin foil hat ain't a lead one?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Well centrists progressives can cause a great deal of damage when they get the bankers to participate in social engineering, you have forgotten the GFC and what caused it. As to Unions they are part of the left, the backbone of the left at times, but they are hardly progressive so I expect you would as easily do away with them as keep them.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I was providing some examples, probably far removed from the behaviour in your country, but I wear what our military refer to as a giggle hat, it has no lining
here are some more examples of leftist behaviour which is probably considered very progressive
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/04...ing-primaries/
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270...-matthew-vadum
The GFC had nothing to do with progressives, or conservatives either and everything to do with abject greed by deception of the private sector.
But what was at the root of it was an attempt to allow an under class to purchase residential property, a very progressive policy of social change, yes the greedy capitalists took advantage of the situation as greedy capitalists will always doQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Donald Trump, Russia investigation: Mueller to drop ‘bombshell’ question
Apparently Trump is to be asked if he knew of any outreach to Russia by his campaign
That's all you need to know about his intent.I won't speak for your country, but in mine there are plenty of older affordable homes to fit any income. Matter of fact many benefitted by banks who as a matter of good business would never sell a home to someone who could not meet the criteria for homes they could never otherwise afford, but for the financial tricks and traps (variable interest rates, balloon payments down the road, to name a few) that was a recipe for failure, and a huge challenge to marginal buyers. That's not progressive values, that's greed. There was no reason for first time buyers to be put in such overwhelming debt, except to exploit them as temporary revenue cows.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Ordinary people be they progressive or conservatives didn't cause GFC greedy banks and moneyed institutions did. You would think conservatives learned that lesson but NOOOO! They are trying to hand the greedy banks back the ability to lie cheat and steal yet again. That would be Trump and his sycophants of whom I speak, who are extracting wealth again at far above record numbers. The first thing The Dufus did upon becoming Prez was double the fees for his properties.
A direct question that needs a direct answer, and we know what his answer is. So does Mueller. The only question is will he LIE, or tell the TRUTH. What do YOU think?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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Originally Posted by talaniman
I wish it were so here Tal but such circumstances are rare, since the GFC property prices have boomed because money has been cheap and so a modest house might cost a Million dollars in the city and several hundred thousand in the suburbs
No argument there, but the policies originated in government policyQuote:
Ordinary people be they progressive or conservatives didn't cause GFC greedy banks and moneyed institutions did.
Mueller is running a kangaroo court, if he has evidence he should endict. All Trump has to do is plead the fifth, it is his right, and there should be no resumption of guiltQuote:
A direct question that needs a direct answer, and we know what his answer is. So does Mueller. The only question is will he LIE, or tell the TRUTH. What do YOU think?
It's good government, and economic policy for everybody to get a chance to OWN a home. As to Mueller, I don't think you appreciate the need to be vigilante against crooked politicians and their criminal affiliates. Given our history of crime and corruption at the highest levels and the FACT so many Trump sycophants are going to jail already, finishing this investigation is of the highest order. You wouldn't exterminate a den of rats and stop before you got the king rat would you?
Why do you think The Dufus, a greedy b@stard, and thief, a proven liar, cheater, bully is above the law? That is simply ludicrous. The Dufus will have his chance to be questioned just like his minions around him have. That's how our law works Clete, slowly at times but surely. He has used the system for his own gain a long time and if it catches up to him... so be it! If it doesn't... then so be it also!
We will see whose right at the END of the PROCESS. No amount of hollering from close or afar will bring about it's premature end though many would love that.
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