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  • Jul 18, 2014, 04:50 AM
    talaniman
    No Clete, just the right wing calling names again.
  • Jul 18, 2014, 05:06 AM
    paraclete
    Yes there is much of that and now much opportunity to begin it anew with the loss of MH17
  • Jul 18, 2014, 05:11 AM
    smoothy
    I'm waiting for the left to start blaming THAT on Bush too.
  • Jul 18, 2014, 06:08 AM
    paraclete
    well I don't know they haven't established who sold who the SAM's yet or when, but Bush had a detente with Putin
  • Jul 18, 2014, 06:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    The Obama regime has its priorities, 23 dead Americans and he's busy buying burgers, threatening Israel and the State Dept is in a world of their own.

    https://twitter.com/statedeptspox/statuses/489944158203703296

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  • Jul 18, 2014, 06:45 AM
    smoothy
    Obama also had a deal going with Putin where he would e more flexible after the election.(remember he was caught on an open microphone saying that)... maybe he had a part in shooting it down. Some deal so he could get political assylum after he leaves office before they can throw him in jail. Him and Snowden can be roomates in a Msocow flat.
  • Jul 18, 2014, 07:17 AM
    tomder55
    yeah we had Barack-lock on the roads here yesterday .
  • Jul 18, 2014, 03:24 PM
    paraclete
    flagship cruising again it is interesting that our leaders can get where they have to go without stopping traffic
  • Jul 18, 2014, 09:07 PM
    smoothy
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    Something that applies...


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  • Jul 18, 2014, 11:06 PM
    paraclete
    back to what I was saying earlier gutless russians run away

    Is this the BUK M2 rocket launcher that blasted Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 out of the sky? | News.com.au

    and by the way this has become personal with two members of my inlaws family dead on MH17
  • Jul 19, 2014, 05:12 AM
    tomder55
    sorry to hear that . Condolences . Typically the Russians don't give sophisticated equipment away without a Russian advisory team on site to instruct ,supervise ,or actually man the equipment.
  • Jul 19, 2014, 05:29 AM
    talaniman
    My condolences also Clete, and I hope they bring those murders to justice.
  • Jul 19, 2014, 06:39 AM
    paraclete
    Yes we can start with Putin, I don't know how Abbott was restrained from declaring war and envoking the ANZUS Treaty

    what use is a treaty if it doesn't work both ways?

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1226992986807

    This is the Lusitania all over again, If you haven't worked it out I am MAD!
  • Jul 19, 2014, 09:00 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    This is the Lusitania all over again
    yes ; eerily so
  • Jul 19, 2014, 09:11 AM
    talaniman
    Or more recent history. Eerie yes!
  • Jul 19, 2014, 12:16 PM
    tomder55
    Here is what a real President sounds like .

    President Reagan's Address to the Nation on the Soviet Attack on a Korean Airliner (KAL 007) - YouTube
  • Jul 19, 2014, 03:46 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Or more recent history Eerie yes!
    yes a very direct example of russian attitude and aggression, so was MH17 spying?

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh17-cra...720-zuwws.html
  • Jul 20, 2014, 03:35 AM
    tomder55
    Perhaps invoking the terms of ANZUS would force the emperor's hand. Clearly he is Hamlet and will waffle until a decision is forced upon him. (one red line crossed after another in the reign). He is very much like the 1st Ivy league egg head who occupied the Oval office; Woodrow Wilson ,who did not enter the war in 1915 when the Lusitania was sunk ,but instead waited until 1917 after the Zimmerman letter was revealed . By then ,the Tzar of Russia had abdicated ,with years of deprivation resulting in the Communist takeover. The Germans no longer fighting a 2 front war. The Brits were out of troops . The French mutinied . All that could've been avoided with an earlier US entry .

    The difference between now and 100 years ago is that the dividing lines aren't as clear cut . You see it in Ukraine ,Mesopotamia ,in the greater Ummah ,and in the way the Chinese are salami slicing the South China Sea. From the emperor's perspective ,there is nothing we can do except draw more red lines to be crossed.
    But ;if all the above develop to what appears to be the logical conclusion ; we will be ,and the system we defend ,in deep trouble ......the dissolution of the world system. The moment when the world realizes that the US is disengaged or taking a secondary role ,as the emperor and his court have advocated ,is the moment when it collapses.

    Let's be clear . For the Dutch ,the downing of this jet was their equivalence of 9-11 . As a NATO member ,they have every right to invoke it's charter . This time ,if we wait until the world crisis gets out of control ,it will be too late.
  • Jul 20, 2014, 03:41 AM
    paraclete
    Yes Tom clearly we have all had enough of this despot, however he is no Saddam. The Japanese lost WWII they should remember that with that comes a need to have a dialogue with their old enemies
  • Jul 20, 2014, 12:07 PM
    tomder55
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    back to the op topic
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  • Jul 20, 2014, 04:19 PM
    paraclete
    Tom I think that pic is somewhat racist
  • Jul 20, 2014, 04:43 PM
    tomder55
    it's a fact ;MS-13 gangbangers are amongst the "children" ,and are actively recruiting youngsters.
  • Jul 20, 2014, 04:51 PM
    paraclete
    yes well i suppose there is only one way something like that is going to get in the country
  • Jul 22, 2014, 02:03 PM
    speechlesstx
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    it's a fact ;MS-13 gangbangers are amongst the "children" ,and are actively recruiting youngsters.

    Those must be the "children" Rick Perry is sending the NG to shoot.

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  • Jul 22, 2014, 06:37 PM
    tomder55
    Roger Simon has lost his mind.
  • Jul 22, 2014, 06:53 PM
    paraclete
    just leftist rhetoric Tom someone is always exaggerating something fro political gain, he isn't concerned about the children althought soem might be inadvertantly hurt
  • Jul 23, 2014, 10:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Roger Simon has lost his mind.
    His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.
  • Jul 23, 2014, 11:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.
    Sniping from the cheap seats again.
  • Jul 23, 2014, 12:13 PM
    NeedKarma
    Selective outrage.

    BTW what is "the cheap seats" on a discussion board?
  • Jul 23, 2014, 12:19 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.
    As opposed to yours that sound like the average Alien abduction believer talking about his last abduction from his trailer in the trailer park with the sofa on the front porch while carrying a six pack he keeps drinking from (which is clearly their second for the evening).

    Do you believe in bigfoot too?
  • Jul 23, 2014, 12:53 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    As opposed to yours that sound like the average Alien abduction believer talking about his last abduction from his trailer in the trailer park with the sofa on the front porch while carrying a six pack he keeps drinking from (which is clearly their second for the evening).
    What the hell is that ramble? LOL! You are good for a laugh.
  • Jul 23, 2014, 02:03 PM
    smoothy
    We know you founded the Bigfoot watchers association...
  • Jul 23, 2014, 02:20 PM
    NeedKarma
    Ok, I did. Now what?
  • Jul 23, 2014, 03:18 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    sniping from the cheap seats

    Statler and waldorf (excellent) - YouTube
  • Jul 23, 2014, 03:34 PM
    NeedKarma
    Totally irrelevant but brought back memories.
  • Jul 23, 2014, 07:50 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    We know you founded the Bigfoot watchers association...

    I'm into watching Yowies myself and Bunyips, they are just a delight, but the best are the drop bears

    DROP BEARS: Attack! of the Killer Koalas - YouTube

    I also recommend the Yahoo
  • Sep 7, 2014, 03:19 AM
    tomder55
    The emperor had a sit down with new' Meet the Press' host Chucky Todd (airing this morning ) . Todd tried to pin the emperor down on why he has not issued executive orders on amnesty . This question comes in the wake of the emperor's decision to wait until after the mid-term elections to issue them .
    Activist for the illegals are squawking about a betrayal ;but this is just the emperor playing 'raw politics' (in Speaker Bonehead's words ) . The emperor had promised in June that he would take 'swift action' .But ,he knows that his intentional non-enforcement of immigration laws and border control has turned the tide of public opinion against any plan for amnesty . He knows issuing them now would be the final nail in the Democrat's chances of retaining the Senate . This decision however is bound to split the Dems over this issue ,pitting Senators like Bob Menendez, who wants immediate action ,with Senators like Bill Nelson ,Kay Hagan ,Jeanne Shaheen ,and Mark Pryor ,who urged the emperor to wait . Most of the Dems in competitive races want this delay.
  • Sep 7, 2014, 07:50 PM
    paraclete
    I remember when we didn't have big explosions a few days apart
    Explosions

    Truck explosion injures eight, closes Mitchell Highway

    More bodies pulled from rubble of Rozelle explosion

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-0...-video/5726034
  • Sep 7, 2014, 09:37 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The emperor had a sit down with new' Meet the Press' host Chucky Todd (airing this morning ) . Todd tried to pin the emperor down on why he has not issued executive orders on amnesty . This question comes in the wake of the emperor's decision to wait until after the mid-term elections to issue them .
    Activist for the illegals are squawking about a betrayal ;but this is just the emperor playing 'raw politics' (in Speaker Bonehead's words ) . The emperor had promised in June that he would take 'swift action' .But ,he knows that his intentional non-enforcement of immigration laws and border control has turned the tide of public opinion against any plan for amnesty . He knows issuing them now would be the final nail in the Democrat's chances of retaining the Senate . This decision however is bound to split the Dems over this issue ,pitting Senators like Bob Menendez, who wants immediate action ,with Senators like Bill Nelson ,Kay Hagan ,Jeanne Shaheen ,and Mark Pryor ,who urged the emperor to wait . Most of the Dems in competitive races want this delay.

    Tom you are on the horns of dilemma, you either deport the lot or keep the lot, the middle gound is littlered with good intentions. You just have to build that wall higher and deeper if you want to keep those hispanics out, otherwise you create an orderly migration process. Tell you what there is a simple solution, give California, New Mexico, and Arizona back. You are not really losing anything, because it might tip the balance of power and allow those conservatives to regain control, not only of the borders but of the senate and you lose millions of illegals in the process with an assurance that there might be massive hispanic migration to those lands leaving the rest of the country in peace and without the responsibility

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