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they are not needed here. Unemployment has not significantly dropped since the crash ;and it's completely out of control for certain populations .All these "migrants " will do is further drain the resources of the taxpayers by consuming public assistance . Already they are bringing with them diseases that were eradicated here years ago .TB, malaria, yellow fever, food and waterborne diseases, and dengue fever, are just a few of the diseases crossing the border with them.
so what will you do with all those "refugees" you would so willingly invite in ?
We could do here what we have always done with immigrants who show up mostly by boat. Check 'em for disease, and giving them working papers, and some food and a cot till they get their legs under 'em.
I like how you justify kicking them in the butt because of the minorities being harmed who have been here since the birth of the nation and whose butts you have whipped and kicked even now. Please spare me the compassion of conservative whose founders wrote "we the people" and "all men are created equal".
Time you started keeping your own words. Or tear up the paper you make a complete mockery of.
We have not "always " done that . There have been varying degrees of numbers allowed in the country in the past . By allowing them the "right " to cross the border and violate the laws denies others who have been true to the process their right of entry .
How about poking a stick up congressional a$$ and getting true reforms, policies and solutions that's I as far to the Brown people as it was for the white people? Obviously immigrants have been coming here for centuries despite the hardships, obstacles, dangers. Just as obvious that's not going to change, but can be made orderly and human.
what a steaming pile of cr+p . You don't favor honoring and enforcing laws that exist . The only acceptable reform for you is open borders and unrestricted admission.
Actually you're right, I was against the fence too. What's a steaming pile of crap though is the immigrants who came here and didn't have to climb a fence are hollering about fellow AMERICANS (Mexico is in the Americas as well as all the Central and Southern AMERICAN countries, look on any MAP) who did.
You actually think you steaming pile of crap smells better than mine? Better check your shorts again.
Put up or shut up time, Tal. How many new immigrants are you prepared to PERSONALLY house and feed? They have to live somewhere; how big is your couch?
tal's not into couch surfing, eh tal the bleeding hearts arn't offering accommodation themselves, they just want to be seen doing something
Meet me in the middle and WE figure it out. Will you help, or just holler? Put up or shut up.
been there done that . See Simpson-Mazzoli Act . We honored our part . The Dems did not live up to theirs .
How so was it JUST the dems fault?
yup .Amnesty was granted in exchange for strengthened enforcement . But that never happened ,and I see no support for enforcement by the Dems.
Doesn't matter if they are all lounging around drinking beer and eating donuts while illegals run right past them.
Under Obama, border apprehensions have fallen from their high points. Border apprehensionspeaked at almost 1.7 million in 2000 under President Clinton, and apprehensions in 2011 were at the lowest level since 1970. The post-2008 declines are due to the recession and loss of jobs which had attracted unauthorized immigrants. Net illegal immigration from Mexico has fallen to zero or even fewer coming than leaving.
Expert analysis
We sent Wasserman Schultz's claim to immigration experts. No one disputed the border patrol numbers, but they also pointed to other factors when examining changes in border security that provide a more complex picture.
"Yes, the number of Border Patrol agents is at an all-time high," said Rey Koslowski, an expert on the border and an associate professor of political science and public policy at the University at Albany. "Whether that equates to 'border security' is another question. As to who should get more credit for border security, the fence was a bipartisan project."
Christopher Wilson, an associate with the Wilson Center's Mexico Institute and an expert on border management, noted that border patrol agents don't precisely equal border security.
"In the end, though, you can't deploy border security, it must be something that is achieved. This gets into one of the major problems with the whole border security debate—the lack of an accepted definition of the term."
Our ruling
Wasserman Schultz said, "President Obama has the most border patrols and border security deployed at the border of any previous president."
She is correct that the highest number of border patrol agents has been under Obama: there were 21,444 in 2011. Wasserman Schultz was careful here and said "most" and didn't talk about the growth rate. But it's worth noting that the big growth was during Bush's tenure: between 2001 and 2009, the number of agents posted nationally rose from about 9,800 to a little more than 20,000.
Other border security measures are not as simple to quantify. The key piece of infrastructure -- the fence -- was launched under Bush. Work on the fence and other border security improvements continued under Obama.
We rate this claim Mostly True.
Typically, whenever a Leftist says "WE" it means he talks and I pay for it. It's been the modus operandi of the Democrats since Woodrow Wilson.Quote:
Meet me in the middle and WE figure it out.
I am not a leftist and neither of us was here during Wilson. Most people think I am fairly reasonable and open minded. :D
Tal... can we ask your wife and see what she says?
When she gets done with my foot rub, sure.
low blow smoothy
What are they trying to hide ?
HHS Bars Congressman from Seeing Immigrant Children | National Review Online#!Quote:
A Health and Human Services official refused to allow a member of Congress to enter a facility in his district where some of the unaccompanied immigrant children are being housed.
Representative Jim Bridenstine (R., Okla.) was told he could schedule an appointment for July 21. “What are they trying to hide?” Bridenstine said after the incident. “Do they not want the children to speak with Members of Congress? As a Navy pilot, I have been involved in operations countering illicit human trafficking. I would like to know to whom these children are being released.”
There are 1,200 immigrant children at the base. Bridenstine’s office explained that HHS releases the children to a “sponsor” in the United States. The congressman said that a security guard at the Fort Sill, Okla., facility refused to let him enter the barracks without HHS approval even though he is a member of Congress.
“There is no excuse for denying a federal representative from Oklahoma access to a federal facility in Oklahoma where unaccompanied children are being held,” Bridenstine said in the press release. “Any Member of Congress should have the legal authority to visit a federal youth detention facility without waiting three weeks.”
Or who are they protecting?
Sen. Inhofe, Gov. Fallin visit immigrants at Ft. Sill | www.krmg.com
We already see what repubs do after visiting process centers.
They are finding the most infectious, contagious ones to send to the White house to pay a visit to "The Messiah".
So the Senator and Governor are permitted to see the facility but not the Congressional Rep of the district where Fort Sill is located ? Again ,what are they hiding ? Or is it just that they are still pissed at Bridenstine for defeating the party's prefered candidate ? What is it ? He ran as a TP so now he is denied access to a Federal Base in his district ?
yep that's what you get fro being a fifth columnist
I thought Fort Sill was in the 4th district represented by Tom Cole?
Highlights of the Fourth District | Representative Tom Cole
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Oklahoma's Fourth District celebrates a rich cultural and military history, as well as economic diversity and vast agricultural assets and products. The largest employers in the district include Fort Sill Army Post, Tinker Air Force Base and the University of Oklahoma.
I stand corrected . I still want to know what is their reason for denying access to a Congressional Rep on a fact finding mission.
Nice spin but we all know repubs on a fact finding mission just want face time to blast Obama and he is a known blaster even more so than the repubs who went already and maybe HHS wants to avoid more right wing abuse of CHILDREN for political hollering points.
'Send them back!' California town continues immigrant protests after blocking buses - NY Daily News
The only thing missing from this disgusting display of conservative hate are dogs and water hoses. "What could they be hiding " Indeed. "fact finding" my A$$!!Quote:
Immigration advocates and some from local churches have joined the crowds of protesters to voice their pleas for leniency and compassion.
“Even though you're seeing on TV and the public so much outburst of anti-immigrant feelings, I think there are a lot of people that want to respond and have compassionate hearts," Tina Nicholas, who oversees Mercy ministries at Centerpoint Church in Murrieta, told the Los Angeles Times.
Its obvious... Dems resort to this tactic every time they get caught with their pants down in a room alone with the family cat.
THey are hiding something... Eric Holder is probibly providing guns to the Jr. MS-13 gang members before turning them loose on the American public.
they should be marching on Washington DC instead to protest this invasion orchestrated by the emperor.
I got an idea . Why don't we house these "migrants " in all those FEMA concentration camps that Bush was accused of building ?
Who was it blocked Bridenstine?
- http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/1532...cility-hiding/Quote:
A volunteer of the self-dubbed “Brown Shirts” – staffers with the Baptist Family and Children Services - blocked the congressman from entering, Daily Caller reports.
Brown Shirts? BROWN SHIRTS?! Fort Sill becomes Auschwitz?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
Go ahead, tell me to put on a tinfoil hat.
Damn baptists.
Maybe its because there arent that many children left in the facility because they have been set loose into the general public already.
ICE: Many Immigrants Skip Court Hearings | NBC 7 San Diego
Illegal immigrants already being released to neighborhood near you | Fox News
The releases have already started and the Border Patrol did not disclose how many. At least 60,000 Central Americans have entered the country illegally this year, though some news reports say the figure is as high as 170,000. An effort is under way to place children in foster homes or with relatives already living in the U.S., said Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas.
The adults are being given a “notice to appear,” something like to a traffic ticket that requires they show up for a deportation hearing. Following that notice, they are simply being released. Those who return for the hearing will face a federal immigration judge to determine their fate.
“You know good and well they won't show up and we won't go looking for them,” Gohmert said. “When they get their piece of paper saying report back on such a day at such a time, they take that as their legal permit to stay in the country and they go do what they want.”
A senior Los Angeles County Sheriff's detective who routinely deals with illegal immigrants said a “massive number – 80 to 90 percent” do not show up for deportation hearings. Detention is not even being considered because Homeland Security facilities are not equipped to hold a large number of people, said the detective, who spoke on a guarantee of anonymity.
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