Tom, I don't think you get it. Condemnation should be aimed at both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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Tom, I don't think you get it. Condemnation should be aimed at both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Why ? I don't condemn it at all . Nanny Bloomy has the right to political speech too.
Is that what he needs to write off?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
no I think Bloomy is genuinely committed to keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens .
I think it is good someone has the conviction to fight a rabid lobby like the NRA, the question isn't whether law abiding citizens should own guns but whether there should be sufficient regulation to minimise the unlawful possession and use of these weapons. The debate should rest on how to minimise harm not maximise access
It should be noted here that the April 19th, 1775 raid on the Concord, Mass. Armory was to seize CANNON the government had declared illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Yes, but not 50 million dollars worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
you really do need to stop living in the past, back in those days you had a very small criminal class who largely confined themselves to petty crime, today you have a very large criminal class who think murder and mayhem is funQuote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
Those who forget the past... are condemned to repeat it.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Which part of the past are you avoiding, violent revolution? bloody conquest? Slavery? civil war? with your attitude to firearms you sow the seeds for all of these
Sorry... we are proud of our violent revolution... it got us away from British oppression.
And as far as slavery... it was hardly OUR doing... it existed millennia before the white man set foot on our shores (in fact it existed in certain native American tribes as well)... and if the slave trade... which incidentally was run by blacks... not whites didn't exist in Africa... it wouldn't have here either.
Never mind the lions share of the slave trade...even back then....existed outside of North America.....something people convieniently choose to ignore every day.
And thats its still alive and well in Africa and the Middle east......not to mention many other parts of the world yet today. Thats a Human issue...not an American one.
You cannot conflate the revolution for independence with the war that ended slavery because after the bloodshed came the terrorism of the former slaves and the tricks and traps that were designed to keep them from the same options and opportunities that even a poor white guy had. You may have been proud of the dark side of the American way, but the struggles of everyone but white guys is still evident today as the whips and chains were replaced with economic ones.
You haven't learned from the past, you are trying to preserve the past through policy and rules that allows you to be a volunteer slave and claim your dominance a superiority. That's why you can justify the freedom to own a gun, carry it anywhere, and shoot first if you get scared. That's why rich guys can rape and plunder and steal while you fill new jails with minorities and poor people. Poor people and minorities that have to have food stamps and programs to survive because HUGE companies pay slave wages.
Keep your lessons learned from the past, because you still hold on to them, and want them back in the worse way.
As opposed to Obama and the Democrats brand of Fascism today..
The "dark old past" was a huge improvement over what's going on right now.
Nixon didn't do anything compared to whats been happening the last 6 years under Obama.
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No it wasn't and using the government as an excuse for the end of the world is a scam to justify the good old boy norms you are use to. Calling names and kicking butt make YOU feel better, but offers no fair solutions to modern problems. You may as well go back to strapping your side arms on your hip, and slinging your rifle on your back when you leave the house, whether it's a watering hole, or a church if your that scared of the rest of the world.
Solving problems with a show of force only hides the fear from yourself. You fool NO ONE!
you won't find the lefties complaining about George Soros $billions and you won't find me complaining about it either . You prefer that the government control the political message and access to it . I don't . Only someone who is ignorant about the way political speech is dispensed to the nation would complain that it takes money to take out a political ad. Even in the early days ,the pamphleteers needed the resources to dispense 'Common Sense' to the people . It didn't just happen ;and it certainly did not happen because the standing government permitted it .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
You should. Otherwise you get a government controlled by the elites... which is basically what you have now.Quote:
you won't find the lefties complaining about George Soros $billions and you won't find me complaining about it either
who pays for political ads in Canada ?
Why? Do you think we'll be comparing amounts like $50 million from a single person/org?
I guess there is now an excuse and an explanation for the "Elite" class... incest.
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That's the second time you use that horrible source. Check it out: hover over all of those underlinked words and tell me where their sources are.
It's a horrible place to go for "news".
Maybe we could learn a better way if you tell us how you do it in Canada.
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Looks like we are all a works in progress and the elites have the inside track of influence.
I already know the answer . Your governement decides how much each political party can spend .... (and it's not equal across the board.) So what you have is an incumbency protection plan. Your heavy regulation of political broadcast time also serves as incumbency protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Your theory falls flat since the political party in charge changes continuously. The amounts is part of the Elections Act and is not written by one party (of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
New Yorkers tell the Fascists in charge what to do with their anti-American gun grab attempts.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
No, he was talking about ruling elites.
Not really much different... most of them are part of the same crowd. And they behave in the very same way...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
One important difference is that the ruling classes actually do, and have the capacity, to buy favours. The majority of the intelligentsia don't actually have the capacity to buy the favours needed to support their political ideology.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
universities have been breeding intellectual imbeciles for a long time and the more university graduates you have the more imbeciles you will get. I wonder who has the most imbeciles? Higher education doesn't necessarily mean higher intelligence
The few governing the many is the current case. An imbecile with money has power and influence. A politician who knows a few rich imbeciles is likely to succeed.
Exactly... Martha Stewart does it... she goes to jail... Nancy Pelosi, HArry Reid Barabar Feinstien do it... they get rich and have a free pass to continue doing it.
Its not what you know... its who you know... sometimes who you know that knows what.
More total insanity from the Obama administration... one of the infinately imbicilic White House "ADVISORS" Lisa Monaco
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The Public school system largely responsible the last several generations of juivenile delinquents... have now become TERRORISTS.
You nailed that one precisely:Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Study: The U.S. Is an Oligarchy
And lack of political will goes a long way to ensure hat the status quo will continue well into the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
no comment
There is still a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Wolf PAC
ironic.... a political action committee created to solicit donations for the purpose of influencing the governance of the nation. Guess you support their free speech rights .
No irony. How much of your money is contributing to free speech at the moment?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As a North Carolina State fan, I think they have some name issues
NC State University Official Athletic Site
I think the difference is in the word, "pac"Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
How much of your moneyas much as I choose. That's why I support the Citizen's United and the McCutcheon v FEC decisions.Quote:
is contributing to free speech at the moment?
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