See, there's one right there.Quote:
So you like living in a fantasy world also?
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make sh*t up and pretend it's truth
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See, there's one right there.Quote:
So you like living in a fantasy world also?
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make sh*t up and pretend it's truth
It's called a question, hence the question mark thingy.
Ah, the Fox News tactic: "...simply putting a question mark at the end of something, you can say *** anything"
The Question Mark - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 09/13/06 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
I'm not Fox news. I've been asking questions long before they came into existence, and the idea that I just make sh*t up and pass it off as truth, such as Obama's lie that the Central California drought is caused by climate change, or "golf" is a dog whistle, is indeed a fantasy. I don't need to make it up, the evidence abounds. Where's yours?
I know, you totally missed the point he was making.Quote:
I've been asking questions long before they came into existence,
You're just making that up. As I was saying...
golf? what about cricket?
"That's the MO of the left, not the right."
Speech, isn't that you do here from time to time? Are you not falling into the same trap by playing the same cards?
I believe I suggested there is more racism on the left, based on actual examples such as those. I don't impugn an entire segment of the population as racist for no reason (the point of the protester video) other than political gain (or ever for that matter) as Democrats do over, and over, and over, and over again. If they're going to talk about it I'm going to call them on their hypocrisy.Quote:
Speech, isn't that you do here from time to time? Are you not falling into the same trap by playing the same cards?
Yes, you do a good job of point out how the Dems play that game. But the point I am making is that if and when you you accuse the Dems of being racist, then you are doing exactly the same thing.
It's all very well to point out how the dems have made race baiting a fine art. But is a different matter to accuse them of being racist.
The whole business is completely absurd.
an absurdity, but then isn't politics an absurdity, certainly obstructionist politics is an absurdity, one doesn't need to enter politics to do nothing, one meerly needs to avoid polling booths
I beg to differ, there is a difference between actual racism and manufactured nonsense. A congressman saying he doesn't like a black Supreme Court justice because he's married to a white woman is racist. Attacking blacks for the simple fact they're conservative is racist.
Should we allow this to continue without holding them accountable? How does it solve racial tensions if we allow it to go unchallenged? Is that how Dr. King went about it, by shutting up and sitting in his place?
You seem to be saying that when you accuse Dems of being racist you can provide the evidence- apparently you can.
However, when the Dems accuse the Repubs of being racist there is no evidence available because they are not racist.
Is this what you are saying?
Not exactly, I say the need to deal with this manufactured racism is at least as important as dealing with actual racism. In other words, we don't hate Obama because he's black so shut the hell up about it.
So why do you hate Obama? because his initiative cost you a few dollars? or was it your own obstructionism? Is your obstructionism based on the fact that the people who benefit most from the Obama initiative are not like you.. maybe you hate him because he has the ability to unite beyond racial barriers where you only divide
I don't hate Obama, I don't hate anyone. disagreement over policy does not constitute hate, racism or apathy toward those in need - points we've been making for 6 years. Your last Iine is too laughable to even consider.
I'm glad you got a laugh speech because I am able to laugh everyday at your attitudes. I have not suggested that your opposition to Obamacare is based in racism though it does beg the question sometimes, however there must be something driving the opposition to Obama himself, more than just he is of the opposite political persuasion, or that the great white hope couldn't unseat him
So the whole porkulus, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, IRS, Obamacare, executive orders, environmental cronyism, printing money, intransigent Senate, incompetent incoherent foreign policy, etc. Isn't enough to oppose, it must be that he's black. Lol, you people are nuts.
The opposition to Obama is mostly about policy that has so far been held unaccountable to anyone. Having the media is a powerful weapon and his along with the media's abuse of power is nearing legendary.
It is not about race. Obamacare was a joke from the start and Obama really had nothing to do with it other then he wanted to pass "something". And those that pushed it through were telling the public you have to pass it to see what is in it.
That is a disaster from the get go. I understand the need to tweak something so it fits better into the real world but with ACA it has been much more then tweaking to where it isn't even close to what was promised and it never will be. There is no fix for it as it was written so poorly in the first place.
so repeal it when you get the chance, but get on with government in the mean time. All new initiatives need tweeking and reveiw and no doubt this is no different. If it hadn't passed the house it couldn't have become law so if the poli's didn't do their job kick them out. Now I think you have tried that solution and it didn't work. Obama has signed less executive orders than other Presidents and yet the fact he dared to sign one is at issue. At best all you have is poor judgement which is a strawman at best
Republicans, conservatives and the TParty don't have the votes to do anything but holler foul, and obstruct as we come up on the midterm elections and certainly don't represent the majority view. That could change in November, 2014, but I doubt it.
there is a problem Tal of when is a majority a minority and when is a minority a majority, bi-cameral government creates this nexus and you seem to have invented tri-cameral goverment which creates even greater problems when parties can't agree on a course of action
There are 360 MILLION people here to govern and making some happy always means some are not. Yes it makes progress slow, but it also gives some time to adjust or catch up.
And some will always holler. That's why we have elections every two years and that's just the process. No process of human governance on earth is perfect.
Yes we know that Tal, yours is not a peacable population dispite the appearances. I do think you make things a little more difficult than necessary because of the volatility of the politics but be thankful you do not have to solve the issues in the manner of the Ukraine and Thailand since this is where that volatility leads
Remember the guy who said he didn't like Clarence Thomas because he's married to a white woman? He has this little gem to say now...
Where do you Dems find these gems?Quote:
A debate Tuesday over a bill to ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected turned to race after Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin, R-Indian Springs, compared her bill to Brown vs. the Board of Education.
But during the debate, Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said that his Republican colleagues would support abortion if their daughters were impregnated by black men.
"Ninety-nine percent of the all of the white people in here are going to raise their hand that they are against abortion," he said. "On the other hand, 99 percent of the whites who are sitting in here now, if their daughter got pregnant by a black man, they are going to make their daughter have an abortion."
Meanwhile, Dingy Harry, while taking a break from calling the Kochs un-American criminals from the Senate floor hinted that the defeat of Obama's Civil Rights nominee was based on racism. Yeah, maybe he wasn't "light skinned" enough for the 7 other Dems that voted no.
We obviously have this week's meme. Issa's treatment of Cummings was racist and "mean" according to Jesse Jackson.
Ed Schultz: Everyone in South Carolina Hates Obama... Unless They're Black
And it's come to this, being a victim of racism makes you fat.
7 Dems defected to defeat Debo Adegbile . Race was not the issue ;and Reid and the emperor know it . The one issue that killed the nomination was that Adegbile defended a man who executed police officer Daniel Faulkner .I'm sure he is a fine lawyer ,and under other circumstances may have been a good fit for the job. BUT ;even though Mumia Abu Jamal certainly deserved legal representation ;that doesn't mean his lawyer is entitled to a senior position in the Justice Dept for that defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Kudos to the Dems who crossed the aisle ...... Casey, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Manchin, Pryor, Walsh ,and Coons . Most of them of course are either from a Red state or a swing state . But Coons is from solid Blue Delaware ;and is not up for reelection. Best guess is that his state is close enough to Philly where the murder took place ,and his constituents remember .
And this week's meme continues...
Harkin: DOJ Civil Rights Nominee Would Have Been Confirmed If He Was White
Well then, tell it to the Dems that voted him down. And so far my personal favorite for the week, from about 100 miles south of me...
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Texas politicians are recoiling after a prominent Lubbock Democrat accused Republican candidate for governor Greg Abbott of “piñata politics” in a bigoted tirade and allegedly disparaged Abbott’s Latina wife.
“Greg Abbott came into our house uninvited, wanting to somehow give the illusion that the Lubbock County Hispanic community is supportive,” Lubbock city councilman Victor Hernandez said after Abbott visited the West Texas town and held a campaign rally at a Mexican restaurant. “If you want to come into my house, the first thing you have to do is to see me — see me as a person, see me as a human being, see me as a fellow Texan.”
Hernandez, who chairs the local chapter Tejano Democrats, is furious about Abbott’s appeal to Hispanic voters in his city. Even though Abbott was met by a crowd of supporters at Jimenez Bakery and Restaurant last week, Hernandez branded the stop as “offensive” to Hispanics and “beyond any sense of decency.”
He criticized Abbott and Republican candidates for not clearing their visit with local Hispanic group
Obviously Abbott married his Latina wife 33 years ago so she could be a "prop" in his campaign for governor. What is it with you libs coming unhinged about or mocking conservative mixed families? Or do you just believe it's impossible for someone who isn't white to be both a conservative and a genuine minority? And since when do we need your permission to reach out? It's not YOUR house you bigoted thug.
Since approximately 60% of pregnancies blacks have are terminated through abortion. now.. the lefties apparently are bound and determined to raise those percentages significantly higher because thats not high enough for them.
So who is group that actually are the racists here... the Dems who want 100% of the blacks babies aborted... or the conservatives who want none aborted?
If you tried to force MOST people in any specific ethnic group to have abortions... it can and would be considered genocide. Unless of course a Liberal is behind it apparently.
You are as usual in error since most dems/libs/and reasonable republican agree the way to eliminate abortions is through education and contraception as well you know from other forums.
Rich and well to do females have gynecologists they visit regularly, and birth control options, poorer or less educated females do not. They also have insurance that poor people do not have. Educating one to their options and opportunities is the key to preventing abortions, given the fact if they really want one they will do it themselves, or turn to dangerous alternatives.
If your idea to PREVENT abortions by taking away, or not recognizing those very important factors of education, options, opportunities, and MEANS, then I totally reject both your premise, and methods, as erroneous, and ineffective. I have stated I am as against abortions as you are, except you make obstacles and I believe in solutions to make them NOT necessary.
City report: 55.8 percent of African-American babies aborted in NYC - Arlington Political Buzz | Examiner.com
But then Democrats really DO want MORE aborted than that...they are upset that more aren't being aborted...and that more can't easily get aborted which would only serve to increace those percentages.
THey have options....use protection, or abstain.
Education...they get a free education..if they choose to not make the most of it, thats on them...they are no less capible of learning than any other ethnic group.
Means.... Condoms are cheap....if they have money for $200+ Nikes and cell pones...they can afford birth control.
Opportunities....they have the same opportunities as everyone else. Speak proper english (few speak a second language) ebonics is street slang...not a language.and dress like a human and they would get jobs. Meaning your pants go around your waist...not your knees.
Now, now, Rep Alvin Holmes-D of Alabama said 99% of white people would force their daughter to have an abortion if she got pregnant by a black man.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
But yes, these Dems are right on top of everything that "disproportionately affects" minorities EXCEPT abortion.
Ignoring the other 58%, 31,000 black females exercised their rights to an abortion. Of a 2 million Black population over all. Nowhere do you site how these abortions were done, where, or even the socio-economic status of those black woman so such a generic number as to be devoid of factual specifics.
Abortions are legal within the law and a choice within specific parameters whether you or I agree with them or NOT. If its not your baby, it's not or choice.
We all know the objective of the democrats are to reach 100% abortion rates in the minorities by any means possible.
Any minority group that votes democrat probibly deserves a 100% abortion rate anyway.
That's a highly subjective broad statement that has no basis in facts, and ridicules to boot..
Has every basis in fact... Democrats want free convenient abortions anytime anyone asks even for 12 year olds... no matter how long after conception occurred.
Free sterilization is cheaper... it only has to be done once... I support that... it saves those of us expected to pay for their laziness and unwillingness to use birth control.
If you have links to your facts I would gladly blow them apart as loony rantings. :)
I am often disturbed though by the conflict of under aged girls who have no guidance, support, or the love of family and undertake such actions and decisions alone. Its not easy on those wanting to help either.
So... I need links or my comments aren't facts...and the links would be discounted as bunk anyway, but if I was a liberal... anything I say would be considered irrefutable fact... and any request for proof would be considered racism, and any links posted would be considered irrefutable fact....even if they claim Alien abductions are real, and Bigfoot lives in Central Park?
Not by me it wouldn't. Everybody gets fact checked in my book!
Trust but verify :D
Case in point.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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