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The Michigan legislature gave 300,000 voters their blessing, but will it meet constitutional muster and over ride the federal law? We'll see.
I won't comment on a teen who wasn't tried as an adult in Texas for killing 4 people while drunk. Money talks and he was in the right America.
Congratulations Media Matters...
Not exactly sure what it is they won, Fox still exceeds the ratings of the other big three cable news networks combined. But congratulations, I'm sure Fox is feeling the sting.Quote:
Media Matters Declares Victory: 'The War On Fox Is Over'
Since its founding in 2004, the progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America has been a thorn in the side of Fox News. Its dozens of staffers monitor the network's leadership, hosts, guests and financial dealings incessantly, calling out misinformation, conflicts of interest and evidence of a partisan agenda, in a bid to shed light on the workings of the right-wing echo chamber.
But in the coming years, Fox will no longer be the center of Media Matters' universe. That's because the group believes it has effectively discredited the network's desire to be seen as "fair and balanced."
"The war on Fox is over," said Media Matters Executive Vice President Angelo Carusone. "And it's not just that it's over, but it was very successful. To a large extent, we won."
Hello again, Steve:
In MY world, being popular doesn't mean you're truthful.
excon
In MY world being untruthful doesn't make you popular. If it did MSNBC would be the ratings king.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Lemme say it again. Ratings and truth are NOT synonymous..
Liberals don't LIKE to be told WHAT to believe. Right wingers, NEED to be told what to believe.
excon
Actually ex, you have that exactly backwards. That's why libs watch MSNBC and conservatives don't. I suspect it also has something to do with why Media Matters is waving the white flag, people aren't interested in their BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Photo of the day, VP Joe Biden groping a White House reporter, The Hill's Aime Parnes.
http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/up..._o-620x413.jpg
Yeah, it's Republicans that don't respect women.
That's groping? Wow, people get offended at anything these days.
BTW is Biden speaking for all Democrats?
Well at least he got the better of government and not the other way around...
Climate change expert's fraud was 'crime of massive proportion,' say feds - Investigations
Actually, I'm almost willing to pay the really, really smart people at the EPA not to do anything.Quote:
The EPA’s highest-paid employee and a leading expert on climate change deserves to go to prison for at least 30 months for lying to his bosses and saying he was a CIA spy working in Pakistan so he could avoid doing his real job, say federal prosecutors.
John C. Beale, who pled guilty in September to bilking the government out of nearly $1 million in salary and other benefits over a decade, will be sentenced in a Washington, D.C., federal court on Wednesday. In a newly filed sentencing memo, prosecutors said that his lies were a "crime of massive proportion" that were “offensive” to those who actually do dangerous work for the CIA.
Beale’s lawyer, while acknowledging his guilt, has asked for leniency and offered a psychological explanation for the climate expert’s bizarre tales.
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“With the help of his therapist,” wrote attorney John Kern, “Mr. Beale has come to recognize that, beyond the motive of greed, his theft and deception were animated by a highly self-destructive and dysfunctional need to engage in excessively reckless, risky behavior.” Kern also said Beale was driven “to manipulate those around him through the fabrication of grandiose narratives … that are fueled by his insecurities.”
The two sentencing memos, along with documents obtained by NBC News, offer new details about what some officials describe as one of the most audacious, and creative, federal frauds they have ever encountered.
When he first began looking into Beale’s deceptions last February, “I thought, ‘Oh my God, How could this possibly have happened in this agency?” said EPA Assistant Inspector General Patrick Sullivan, who spearheaded the Beale probe, in an interview with NBC News. “I’ve worked for the government for 35 years. I’ve never seen a situation like this.”
Beyond Beale’s individual fate, his case raises larger questions about how he was able to get away with his admitted fraud for so long, according to federal and congressional investigators. Two new reports by the EPA inspector general’s office conclude that top officials at the agency “enabled” Beale by failing to verify any of his phony cover stories about CIA work, and failing to check on hundreds of thousands of dollars paid him in undeserved bonuses and travel expenses -- including first-class trips to London where he stayed at five-star hotels and racked up thousands in bills for limos and taxis.
Until he retired in April after learning he was under federal investigation, Beale, an NYU grad with a masters from Princeton, was earning a salary and bonuses of $206,000 a year, making him the highest paid official at the EPA. He earned more money than Gina McCarthy, the agency’s administrator and, for years, his immediate boss, according to agency documents.
In September, Beale, who served as a “senior policy adviser” in the agency’s Office of Air and Radiation, pled guilty to defrauding the U.S. government out of nearly $900,000 since 2000. Beale perpetrated his fraud largely by failing to show up at the EPA for months at a time, including one 18-month stretch starting in June 2011 when he did “absolutely no work,” as Kern, Beale’s lawyer, acknowledged in his court filing.
Hello again, Steve:
Yeah, there are crooks in government... I'm SURE it was Obama's fault.
excon
Crooks, yep, shame we don't have competent managers, too.
It's come to this...
Pink Floyd star Roger Waters compares Israelis to Nazis | Mail Online
A lot of people end up comparing someone to the Nazis, that's why Godwin's Law exists. Waters loses. Though I still like his music.
BTW, what has come to that?
TParty guys are lousy managers, all holler no do. Obstruction, destruction, holler, scream, throw rocks and call names is not good management.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Tal, you really must stop projecting your side's failures on others. You and Jay Carney are sounding like Baghdad Bob.
It's a shame that I'm going to have to destroy all my Floyd CDs .Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I thought we were doing quite good dragging you guys forward despite all the kicking, and screaming. You underestimate our accomplishments and completely ignore the drag to positive progress has been your own lack of positive actions.
But I suppose the fear of drowning makes a guy who can't swim fight his rescuer. We can't let you guys drown, no matter how easy, or tempting the notion is.
Liberals realize you are just slowing things down and that's okay. You ain't STOPPING us though, forget it.
I'm sure he'll be devastated to hear that.Quote:
It's a shame that I'm going to have to destroy all my Floyd CDs
Yep, Baghdad Bob is back. Only a guy that thinks the crap sandwich we have today is progress. You just set me back a thousand bucks and gave me worse coverage, screw you're "progress."Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Speech - come to Canada! :-)
Or Speech could come to Australia. At least the Cowboys are going pretty well here. Different game though.
Aussie Footie?
Yes we do play "football" here, there are a lot of codes because when you come down to it we are not a nation of spectators. Our football choices are as varied as the backgrounds of our immigrant populations. not having many immigrants from the USA we don't play that colourful game you are addicted toQuote:
Aussie Footie?
Yes, Rugby League. There is also Rugby Union and Australian Rules. Rugby Union was played in the US in the early part of this century. It was banned because of the flying wedge V formation. Instead of banning the move they banned the game and invented their own.
This is much as I remember, but perhaps someone can do the research if they wish.
which century was that Tutt? according to the research there are 450,000 rugby players in the US, who would have thought? we should send the All Blacks and the Wallabys over for a demonstration tour, they need to learn the hakka so they can toughen up and join the A league. they even allow women to play.
By the way Tutt you forgot Soccer, a popular game in Australia
I can watch it from my recliner. Though I'd come much closer to moving down under than up there, I hate winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
Winter is awesome. My kids love it ergo I do too. Plus I've always played hockey, every year since I was 4.
It's come to this. People who couldn't bother to lift a finger to scrutinize the current president but can't their digits far enough up to probe a Republican are disappointed in their Messiah.
I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. Nah, I don't feel sorry for anyone disappointed by The One, we warned you.Quote:
PIERS MORGAN, HOST: You have interviewed every president of my lifetime. Why is Obama facing so much opposition now? Why is he struggling so much to really fulfill the great flame of ambition and excitement that he was elected on originally in 2009?
BARBARA WALTERS: Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.
It’s very difficult when the expectations for you are very high. You’re almost better off when they are low and then they rise and rise. His were very high and they’ve dropped. But you know, he still has several years to go. What does he have, three years, Piers? And, you know, there will be a lot of changes, one thinks in that time.
Right wing credibility to govern is even more damaged than Obama's and while you guys have loud stiff opposition, he has taken everything you have thrown at him, and rebounded every time.
What makes you think he won't yet again?
We don't have to throw anything at Obama, he's shot himself in the foot enough. But it is kind of sad watching so many people not only in denial, but still clinging to hope in The Messiah. Eventually you guys are going to have to come to terms with the fact that everything is not Bush's fault, though that seems unlikely.
Five Years Later, Democrats Still Blame Bush
And let me add, new temple of the Messiah adviser John Podesta thinks Republicans are "a cult worthy of Jonestown" (I can hear the ironic amens here already). Oliver Knox at Yahoo News reacts:
I guess there's hope after all. Next thing you know libs will stop stalking Republicans at funerals.Quote:
In a notable de-escalation of the White House's rhetorical war on its critics, an incoming senior adviser to President Barack Obama has compared House Republicans and the tea party to the infamous Jonestown cult that was behind one of the worst mass-murders of civilians in history. And then apologized.
The comment in question came from John Podesta, a veteran of political knife-fights under Bill Clinton. Podesta later apologized on Twitter, saying “my snark got in front of my judgment.”
“I apologize to Speaker Boehner, whom I have always respected,” Podesta tweeted.
Still, how is that first comment a de-escalation, you ask, quite reasonably? Well, it really wasn't that long ago that the White House was unrepentantly comparing the House GOP and the tea party to terrorists with bombs strapped to their chests. This is arguably a little less inflammatory. The United States isn't waging a global military campaign against cults, after all. Or that could just be my snark getting in front of my judgment?
You were the chosen one! - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
It's come to this, the network that made a sensation out of some down home Christians has suspended the dad from its cash cow for expressing his Christian beliefs.
I suspect he will be back in no time once they finish getting hammered hard enough.
"made controversial comments equating homosexuality with bestiality"Quote:
for expressing his Christian beliefs
Yep, those are christian beliefs all right.
Hello again, Steve:
I thought you meant THIS dad. He was expressing Christian beliefs too. No, huh?Quote:
excon
He equated both with being sinful, not each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
He also stated this:Quote:
What, in your mind, is sinful?
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says.
That's Christianity.Quote:
“I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.
“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”
No, he is credentialed by the church and serves at their pleasure, he willfully and knowingly violated their policy. Phil was just talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Nah, he equated them, actually it seems that he puts homosexuality as more sinful than bestiality.Quote:
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman
So talking is OK? Seems I see a lot of thread here that deal with what people said.Quote:
Phil was just talking.
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