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  • Oct 25, 2013, 06:44 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    What, I can't read?
    Well, I think you can... But, that right wing guy I was talking to the other night, doesn't think so.. He thinks you're a right wing whacko who wants to dismantle the great society and make contraception illegal.

    Now, it's NOT me saying that. I'm just INNOCENTLY reporting what one right winger said about another... Don't look at me.. I'm INNOCENT.

    excon
  • Oct 25, 2013, 07:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    Well, I think you can... But, that right wing guy I was talking to the other night, doesn't think so.. He thinks you're a right wing whacko who wants to dismantle the great society and make contraception illegal.

    Now, it's NOT me saying that. I'm just INNOCENTLY reporting what one right winger said about another... Don't look at me.. I'm INNOCENT.

    excon

    No, that's you saying that.
  • Oct 25, 2013, 07:40 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    No, that's you saying that.
    You got me...

    But, that's YOU saying all the racist BS, too.

    excon
  • Oct 25, 2013, 07:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    You got me...

    But, that's YOU saying all the racist BS, too.

    excon

    No sir you're wrong, I posted a column just to watch the reaction. I have consistently shown I don't give a damn about someone's race or ethnicity, we're just people. You're the one who thinks a black guy criticizing another black guy is racist.
  • Oct 25, 2013, 08:00 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve..

    Nahhh.. Do you NOT believe what he wrote???? You ABSOLUTELY do. You ain't fooling anybody.

    excon
  • Oct 25, 2013, 08:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve..

    Nahhh.. Do you NOT believe what he wrote???? You ABSOLUTELY do. You ain't fooling anybody.

    excon

    Do I believe blacks have fared worse under Obama? Yes. Do I believe conservative policies are more conducive to success and regaining self-respect and pride? Yes. Do I believe Al Sharpton is a race baiter? Yes. That doesn't make me a racist.
  • Oct 26, 2013, 01:21 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Do I believe blacks have fared worse under Obama? Yes. Do I believe conservative policies are more conducive to success and regaining self-respect and pride? Yes. Do I believe Al Sharpton is a race baiter? Yes. That doesn't make me a racist.

    Are you listening to yourself? Everybody has teamed up to reject you wingers. Not just black people, but everybody. Even my conservative republican friends think you are crazy and have promised to keep Ted, and Sarah on TV, and not in positions of power, or policy.

    What a racist joke claiming how well you treat yo' N********'s.
  • Oct 27, 2013, 06:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Are you listening to yourself? Everybody has teamed up to reject you wingers. Not just black people, but everybody. Even my conservative republican friends think you are crazy and have promised to keep Ted, and Sarah on TV, and not in positions of power, or policy.

    What a racist joke claiming how well you treat yo' N********'s.

    Now that's offensive, but demonstrative. You can shove that BS where the sun don't shine.
  • Oct 27, 2013, 06:26 AM
    talaniman
    DUDE! The whole premise of this thread is offensive and highly insulting!
  • Oct 27, 2013, 06:56 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    DUDE! The whole premise of this thread is offensive and highly insulting!

    No it isn't, and you crossed a line I will not tolerate.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:41 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    you crossed a line I will not tolerate.
    Damn it, if only we could see the posts of yours that get removed by the mods from this site, we'd get a better idea of why this statement is a joke.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:02 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Damn it, if only we could see the posts of yours that get removed by the mods from this site, we'd get a better idea of why this statement is a joke

    If only you'd realize no one cares about what ankle biters like you make up.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:11 AM
    NeedKarma
    Don't even know what "ankle biter' refers to or why it's a bad thing. LOL. Once again, you're opinion of me matters very little seeing what you do here day in day out.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Don't even know what "ankle biter' refers to or why it's a bad thing. LOL. Once again, you're opinion of me matters very little seeing what you do here day in day out.

    And what is it you do besides cowardly sniping?
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:45 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Don't even know what "ankle biter' refers to or why it's a bad thing. LOL. .

    http://tsg3.us/tnsg_lib/pldc_school/.../admin_app.pdf
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:04 AM
    NeedKarma
    Tom,
    Thanks, that is indeed an informative doc, now I know what it means. I don't think it's part of popular usage though.
    I really don't see anyone continuously offer any constructive alternatives in Current Events. It's really just a board for US political pundits to vent and belittle the opposite party. is this not correct?
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    And of course we have NK to bring us insightful, thoughtful commentary to fill the gap.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Thanks man. Cheers.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:29 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Tom,
    Thanks, that is indeed an informative doc, now I know what it means. I don't think it's part of popular usage though.
    I really don't see anyone continuously offer any constructive alternatives in Current Events. It's really just a board for US political pundits to vent and belittle the opposite party. is this not correct?

    Yes that is correct.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 08:03 AM
    speechlesstx
    Far left cartoonist Ted Rall is showing his racist stripes again.

    Quote:

    No, Governor Palin, the truth behind the ACA mess is that Obama and his gang of golfing buddies are idiots.
    Of course he's right about that part but you can't say that, you can't criticize a black president without being a racist.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 01:22 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Far left cartoonist Ted Rall is showing his racist stripes again.



    Of course he's right about that part but you can't say that, you can't criticize a black president without being a racist.

    It depends on how you use the term and in what context. People often demonstrates themselves to be idiots in lots of different ways.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 01:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    It depends on how you use the term and in what context.

    Not if you're a conservative.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 03:01 PM
    talaniman
    Breaking News

    Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote:

    A federal judge says that Texas' abortion restrictions violate the rights of abortion doctors to do what they think is best for their patients.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:10 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    It depends on how you use the term and in what context. People often demonstrates themselves to be idiots in lots of different ways.

    Yes, we have observed high incidence of this phenominom
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:29 PM
    tomder55
    Judge Yeakel must think that a law that sets standards for fetal slaughterhouses the same as required for other medical clinics is unconstitutional .Obviously abortionists working in rat infested sub standard facilities are looking after the best interests of their patients. You see ;abortionist's rights to wack babies are constitutionally protected... but Christian hospital's 1st amendment rights are subject to the whim of the emperor.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:45 PM
    paraclete
    Tom you can be sure your founders didn't consider the likelihood that abortion would become endemic, but we can be certain they would have thought the practice abhorrent. How then can permitting abortion be considered constitutional. Only because there is no specific mention of either permission or prohibition. Surely it is time to allow common sense to prevail. It is a great pity some people weren't aborted
  • Oct 28, 2013, 06:17 PM
    tomder55
    The founders in the Declaration spoke of the right to life. They also in the 5th Amendment made it clear that life could not be taken legally without due process .The 14th amendment expanded the due process clause to states . William Blackstone, the British legal scholar, wrote in 'Commentaries on the Laws of England' that life is a “right” that “is inherent by nature in every individual, and exists even before the child is born.” Blackstone's work was well known by the founders when they wrote the Constitution.

    Where is the due process in abortions ? Are we to believe that due process is satisfied because a mother deems it so ? If that's the case then why would the woman who gave birth and stuffed her child in a shopping bag ;and continued shopping at Victoria's Secret come under criminal investigation ? (she was caught because she was shop lifting . )
    So what we had before Roe v Wade was a clear case for the right to life in at least 2 of the amendments... as opposed to a vague implied 'right to privacy that was granted by judicial fiat and was founded in the in the "penumbras" and "emanations" of other constitutional protections.In other words ,the justices twisted the words of the constitution to make it legal to kill babies.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 06:20 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The founders in the Declaration spoke of the right to life.

    The founders didn't even count women and blacks as human, so why would they have thought about unborn babies? Only landed white gentlemen had rights.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 06:31 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The founders didn't even count women and blacks as human, so why would they have thought about unborn babies? Only landed white gentlemen had rights.

    Ah such were the days of the enlightenment and yet their every though is sacrosanct
  • Oct 28, 2013, 09:49 PM
    Enigma1999
    America needs a capable person to be president! Doesn't matter if the President is male, female, older, younger, white, black, yellow, so on and so forth...
  • Oct 29, 2013, 12:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    America needs a capable person to be president! Doesn't matter if the President is male, female, older, younger, white, black, yellow, so on and so forth...

    Given the size of the population there should be many aspirants, however the political system ensures that only those who can raise megabucks have a chance. You would think that skill would translate into a useful management skill for the country, but no, the politics of division reigns. Certain people are excluded which lowers the pool to those with access to old money
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:00 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The founders didn't even count women and blacks as human, so why would they have thought about unborn babies? Only landed white gentlemen had rights.

    More distortions about the founders . It's all well and good to apply 21st century norms to the 18th century, but it falls flat on examination. The idea of universal suffrage for all propertied men was extremely radical. At the time of the founding, America was the most egalitarian country in the world.And they put together a governing system that planted the seeds for all the reforms that came later .
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:10 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    More distortions about the founders . It's all well and good to apply 21st century norms to the 18th century, but it falls flat on examination. The idea of universal suffrage for all propertied men was extremely radical. At the time of the founding, America was the most egalitarian country in the world.And they put together a governing system that planted the seeds for all the reforms that came later .

    Yes unfortunately some of those seeds fell on fallow ground, the abolution of slavery for example, the US had to be dragged kicking and screeming to that table, equality was another aspiration that fell on fallow ground, it took two hundred years for those seeds to sprout and you don't have a full crop yet. Yes universal suffrage for all men is still opposed for some within your borders, it is still a radical idea among men of property
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:14 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes unfortunately some of those seeds fell on fallow ground, the abolution of slavery for example, the US had to be dragged kicking and screeming to that table, equality was another aspiration that fell on fallow ground, it took two hundred years for those seeds to sprout and you don't have a full crop yet. Yes universal suffrage for all men is still opposed for some within your borders, it is still a radical idea among men of property

    Look inward before you criticize us . You are as racist as anyone on this site .
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:17 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes unfortunately some of those seeds fell on fallow ground, the abolution of slavery for example, the US had to be dragged kicking and screeming to that table, equality was another aspiration that fell on fallow ground, it took two hundred years for those seeds to sprout and you don't have a full crop yet. Yes universal suffrage for all men is still opposed for some within your borders, it is still a radical idea among men of property

    More lies . Every leading Founder acknowledged that slavery was wrong. Slavery was legal and practiced in every state in 1776; by the end of the founding era, more than a hundred thousand slaves had been freed by the outlawing of slavery in seven of the original thirteen states or by individual acts of manumission, especially in the South. Within a generation ,the nation was at war to free the slaves .The groundwork for the eventual total abolition of slavery was laid in establishment of the equality principle .
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:28 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    More lies . Every leading Founder acknowledged that slavery was wrong. Slavery was legal and practiced in every state in 1776; by the end of the founding era, more than a hundred thousand slaves had been freed by the outlawing of slavery in seven of the original thirteen states or by individual acts of manumission, especially in the South. Within a generation ,the nation was at war to free the slaves .The groundwork for the eventual total abolition of slavery was laid in establishment of the equality principle .

    That was a damn long generation, yes there were skermishes but real war didn't happen until 90 years later, by my reckoning that's four generations but maybe they were a bit slow then and didn't marry until forty, nevertheless, a long, long, time for those in chains. Acknowledging slavery was wrong and freeing the slaves was something entirely different, a matter of conscious perhaps. The same sort of conscious that doesn't make your trickle down economics work today
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:35 AM
    tomder55
    Again ,look inward . The life of a slave on an Australian sugar plantation was little different from that on the American cotton plantations. Brutality and deprivation were the daily ritual . Slavery didn't end on your continent until the beginning of the 20th century . And you came kicking and screaming under pressure from the Brits.
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:39 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Look inward before you criticize us . You are as racist as anyone on this site .

    Racist, well I'll have to let my abo's go loose, goose, then won't I. Racist because I don't want my country overrun by middle eastern and south asian yobboos, because I don't want the same conditions you enjoy to arise here. Because I don't want an underclass. Declare your hispanics citizens and then speak to me of racism. When I look at Obama I don't see a black man, can you say the same?

    It is not racist to be anti-muslim, anti-terrorist and anti-bullshiite. We, in this country, are fed to the teeth with multi-culturism, an idea completely foreign and imported from northern climes who now wish they had never thought of it. Our original inhabitants are unimpressed with boat people, discuss racism with them
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Breaking News

    Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Don't tell me, it's a racist law.
  • Oct 29, 2013, 05:50 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh... It's a non existent victory in the non existent war on women...

    non existent excon

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