I bet Jim Giffords wishes he was carrying a gun .
Cops: Teen pauses attack on 70-year-old man to celebrate - New York News
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I bet Jim Giffords wishes he was carrying a gun .
Cops: Teen pauses attack on 70-year-old man to celebrate - New York News
And the violence in America continues... (see my previous post)
That's just more lefties behaving badly. And don't hide you bias... how about including all violence that doesn't include a firearm... There is no lack of those to focus on... in fact there is far more of it... and even in Canada.
smoothy violence is everywhere but it is facilitated by access to guns and more and more are made and distributed every day, but it doesn't just affect you these guns are illegally exported to other countries and fuel the insanity there too. This is corporate american and it is ugly and the true enemy of us allQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Guns have nothing to do with violence... PEOPLE have everything to do with violence. No gun has ever killed a person... people kill people.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Cavemen were beating other cavemen over the head with clubs to take their stuff and women...
Nothing much has changed since then.
The true enemy is the people that want to disarm the public... because they have no grasp of history... and what happens time and time again to disarmed populations.as demonstrated by the historical record.
Call me the enemy then because I don't own a gun. When I did I know I was irresponsible, but what I do know is that if guns are not generally available less people get killed by guns, so much for the argument that guns don't kill people. Guns are designed for one purpose only and that is to kill. It is true that historically we used many devices to kill but it wasn't until the gun that we perfected it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Human nature is raw, animal, and because of this it should not have access to killing devices paticularly those that can kill at a distance and multiple times. These things belong only on a battlefield, not in our streets
So... do you want to outlaw... cutlery, any hard object that can be picked up... have peoples arms shortened to where they are long enough to pick their nose and reach their mouths to eat? And their legs shortened by half so they aren't much use to kick or stomp?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Outlaw any substance that can be hazardous in case soemone got the idea to feed it to someone...
Or just outlaw breeding completely that way within one generation there will no longer be people committing any violence against other people.
And also... there is this... I don't live in a part of the world where anti-gun zeolots get to decide what I can and can't have... and I'm proud of that... we have a constitutional RIGHT to own them... and that right is no less valid than any other enumerated right.
And where I live... we have the right to kill anyone who decides they are going to invade your personal space to do harm on you ot take your stuff... and where we have the right to terminate the life funtions of anyone who decides to invade your house to do this any time of the day or night.
What's irresponsible is allowing certain criminal elements to breed,. not for law abiding citizens to own guns. I have more than a few... and nobody is going to take them... nobody... and there are at a minimum of 80 million others who feeel exactly the same way.
And what is most irresponsible of all... is the belief people should not be held responible for their own actions.
And its irresponsible to ignore that most violence that occurs doesn't even involve guns.
Oh stop using the 2nd amendment as an excuse not to pay for more cops and have more comprehensive background checks so a loony can't get a gun and wipeout the lives of as many people as he can has bullets.
Contract all that work to contractors with fat contracts and do the job on the cheap. 300 million guns in this country, and we still get slaughtered like sheep. But I guess a gun is what brings swagger to your wager and think you are somebody.
Well that does nobody else no good, and you blow smoke between massacres.
When seconds mattered to Jim Giffords the cops were minutes away.
The real problem is the lefties spouting off their hatred and instigating things... their right to free speech should be taken away for the common good as well because all it does is cause trouble.. in fact lets start there.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
As to your previous post, stop pretending violence is a uniquely American phenomenon. As long as there are people there will be violence. Deal with your own issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Quote:
Around 200 people gathered at the Saskatoon Farmers Market to protest violence in Saskatoon.
The 'Take Back The Night' march is an annual event to protest sexual and physical assault in the community.
What started as one march in 1975 has now become a global movement to protest assaults against women.
"I think marching in the city streets really brings visibility to our cause," said Coordinator of the University of Saskatchewan Students' Union Women's Centre Heather Kevill. "It brings visibility to the people and the activism, and I think it's really important."
According to Statistics Canada, around half of all Canadian women have experienced some form of sexual or physical violence.
More cops. Put 'em everywhere. Some people don't want to lug a gun around. If he wanted on, why didn't he have one?
Sure.. there are lots of unemployed high school bullies looking for a chance to rekindle that part of their lives...
We could use Washington, DC as an example... there have only been 90+ active duty police officers thrown in jail for criminal activity in recent years.
But then... take away the guns... put thousands more "police" on the streets... sounds like 1930's Nazi Germany to me.
I don't but but you don't see Canadians posting ad nauseum about any violence in their country on this board. You guys seem to revel in it; as in more guns would fix the problem.Quote:
stop pretending violence is a uniquely American phenomenon
Yes there are some parents that go to their kids' job interviews, that's one of the worst problems we face. :D
Everything sounds like 1930's Germany to you. They have pills for paranoia. Or a straight jacket if the pills don't work, or you have an aversion to stuff being shoved down your throat for your own good.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
And the safety of the public.
The real danger comes from people that talk like you just have...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Because it shows a complete disregard for the BIll of rights and constitution.
Oh... and incidentally... its your people that emptied out the assylums under the pretext they had the right to rampage freely.
Or do you actually think the mentally ill SHOULD be rounded up and tossed back in.. You can't have it both ways.
Who is "your" people?Quote:
its your people
You join right in and know it's the gun control advocates that make it political, I'm not posting ad nauseum about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
If half of your women experience sexual or other violence you have MUCH bigger problems than parents on job interviews. I mean THAT'S a war on women.Quote:
Yes there are some parents that go to their kids' job interviews, that's one of the worst problems we face. :D
Give it a little thought... you speak english well enough. It will come to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Wingers here are afraid and can't think of any other way to solve a problem than with a gun. They already have 300 million, and need MORE. So they have to find stories to justify their position. I mean how loony is it to sell a gun to a blind man, instead of a seeing eye dog?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
And Left wingers can't think of anything but disarm the public so nobody can oppose them when they continue to violate the law and the constitution... jext kile... Mao, Stalin, Hitler and any other dsepots have done throughout history.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The first actions of the leftists intent on oppression is always disarming their opposition.
More hyperbole and aversion to reality, especially since your VP thinks we need a shotgun. You know damn well responsible gun owners see a gun as the last resort to solving a problem but if comes down to protecting myself or my family I'd rather have a gun than a whistle.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And interesting that you're willing to discriminate against the blind.
And also how willing the Democrats are to hand guns over to Mexican Drug Cartels... and to arm Al Queda in Syria... while at the same time demanding American citizens have their rights denied.
How come you can never answer a simple question directly?Quote:
Give it a little thought... you speak english well enough. It will come to you.
I learned it from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
<sigh>
If you can't see what you're shooting you shouldn't have a gun. That's simple common sense and has little to do with rights. By your logic, its discrimination not to sell a gun to a crazy person.
Never mind, my bad, I shouldn't expect logic or common sense from a winger.
And one would think it common sense to give the blind, and technology a little more credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
They give democrats guns... and many of them don't have the cognitive capacity to know what they are shooting at...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Like Joe Biden recommending taking a shotgun and putting two shots through the closed front door of your house if you don't know who's knocking on it. Yeah.. like that is going to end well 99.9999999999% of the time.
I don't recall that a certain Republican vice president was any betterQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
LOL, I don't mind a blind guy shooting at a range with supervision, but not walking the street with a gun.
I think that should go for everyone TalQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It just amazes me that you seem to think the only person that could possible handle a firearm is a person that wears some kind of uniform. I suppose in your opinion that when they are off duty they shouldn't be allowed to carry either?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Exactly, no private citizen has a need to carry a gun. There was a time when our police didn't need to carry guns and we were safer in those days, but there is no eveidence we are made safer by the possession of fire arms and certainly not when some macho idiot is allowed to carry a gun beyond the firing rangeQuote:
Originally Posted by cdad
How many crimes do cops prevent every year by being somewhere at exactly the right time?
And if they are always there... then why is there a crime rate to speak of?
I guess Australia has a crime rate of zero then?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
No thus our police are armed but it is much lower than the US and the single obvious difference is the availability of firearmsQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
UNODC murder rate US 4.8 Australia 1.0
What we find is our crime is at a lower level and more associated with intoxication than with firearms
That's only because they never find the bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Now is that an allusion to Azaria? We find bodies, found one at the bottom of a cliff the other day, poor buggar had been missing for weeks, They found one not far from my place, fellow had been missing for months, but few of them are the result of crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Missing believed victim of foul play still counts in the statistics
What about the people who simply go missing?
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