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Nope... they weren't shipping them here... the people coming here were fed up with what they were putting up with at home, the US Colonies were never a penal colony...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
The Democrat party feels anything is OK as long as its only them that gets to do it.
As you said the US wasn't a penal colony persee, but you are making up for it now so the same thinking that infested eighteenth century England must have taken root in the colonies. I guess those dissatisfied with British justice realised it had its usefullness.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
As far as the political process is concerned, I don't see a lot of difference, just swapping one set of cronies for another
Yesterday Obama lied again to the UN overplaying the role some 2 bit Youtube video has on the riots in the ummah. I did not understand why he continued to cling to this fiction until it was pointed out to me that the full length movie about the wacking of OBL ;that had been scheduled to be released next month as the victory lap;high five, October surprise ;has now been delayed until after the election .
The President and his minions have been adamant that the US has nothing to do with the video ;however ,it is alleged that the White House gave a lot of assistance to film director Kathryn Bigelow in her making of 'Zero Dark Thirty' .
The mobs outside the embassy in Cairo and other places have chanted 'we are Osama Obama' . So imagine how that mob will react when a full length Hollywierd production about the hunting down and killing of OBL is released.
Man I'd love to see some evidence of that. Do you have any?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That's why I used the word "alleged " . You want me to produce evidence of an allegation ?
Will you take CNN as a source ?
E-mails show White House support for bin Laden movie – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
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Newly released e-mails show the Obama administration was eager to help the makers of an upcoming documentary on the dramatic raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden - and the e-mails are likely to once again raise questions about whether the filmmakers had special access.
The records from the CIA and Defense Department were made public Tuesday by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the e-mails indicate the Obama administration "played fast and loose with national security information to help Hollywood filmmakers," and that there was no doubt the "White House was intensely interested in this film that was set to portray President Obama as 'gutsy'" - a reference to one of the e-mails that said the raid "was a gutsy decision" by the president.
The e-mails indicate filmmaker Kathryn Bigelow, screenwriter Mark Boal and other members of their team were given special access to senior administration officials just weeks after the May 1, 2011, raid as they researched their movie entitled "Zero Dark Thirty," originally scheduled to come out in October but now delayed until after the presidential election.
Well there you are Tom it's no longer an allegation, CNN makes it fact?
Hello again, wingers:
So, assisting a film maker who wants to make a POSITIVE film for you is WRONG?? What planet are you living on?
excon
So Tom is defending Islam now?
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Muslims don't like the west to diss Mohammed... But, there's no evidence that they mind us dissing Ben Laden... If they were going to riot, doncha think they would have done it when we killed him??
You really don't know what's going on over there, do you? Oh, right... They hate us for our freedoms...
Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
Aren't you glad I have such a great memory to keep you on track?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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Protesters condemn 'brutal killing' of bin Laden
'Jihad against America will not stop with the death of Osama,' Pakistani cleric says
Muslims in the Philippines, Indonesia and Pakistan protested Friday over the killing of Osama bin Laden, with one cleric vowing the holy war against the U.S. "will not stop with the death of Osama."
People in the crowds referred to the former al-Qaida leader as a martyr.
In Manila, Philippine police used anti-riot shields to stop a march on the U.S. Embassy by dozens of Muslims.
The marchers, who set off from Manila's main mosque, were prevented from reaching the boulevard leading to the seaside embassy compound after Friday's noon prayers. The protesters later dispersed peacefully.
Protest leader and Islamic cleric Alim Jamil Yahya said he condemned the "brutal killing" of bin Laden and described the al-Qaida founder's burial at sea as a desecration of his body.
He said that although many Muslims did not agree with bin Laden's methods, they still revered him as a martyr because he fought for freedom against oppression by "the satanic U.S. hegemony."
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This just in from London-istan: Violent clashes outside U.S. Embassy after hundreds of UK Muslims stage mock funeral for 'murdered' Bin Laden
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 09:03 EST, 7 May 2011
Violent clashes broke out around the world today as thousands of supporters of Osama bin Laden took to the streets to protest at the Al-Qaeda leader's death.
While many protests took place across the Muslim world, the most extraordinary took place in London, where hundreds of supporters gathered at the U.S. embassy to stage a mock 'funeral service' for the slain terror leader.
The violence erupted just days after the city - often dubbed London-istan because of its reputation for Islamic extremism - was branded a major recruiting ground for Al Qaeda.
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Flag on fire: Pakistani protesters burn a representation of the Star and Stripes in protest against the killing of Osama Bin Laden in Multan
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Indonesia: The Al Kaida group, which took a public oath to avenge the death of Bin Laden
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Devotion: An Islamist kisses a picture of Osama Bin Laden during a protest in Cairo
Even though virtually everyone else knows it's a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The White House knew this was the work of terrorists in less than 24 hours, in direct contradiction to their story five days later.Quote:
An anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had “nothing to do with” a deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this month, Libya’s president told NBC News.
In an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Ann Curry, President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube. He noted that the assault happened on Sept. 11 and that the video had been available for months before that.
“Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September,” he said. “They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message.”
Magarief said there were no protesters at the site before the attack, which he noted came in two assaults, first with rocket-propelled grenades on the consulate, then with mortars at a safe house.
When will the media hold them accountable? When will you libs here do the same?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Talk about memory... I held him accountable just yesterday... I SAID he should have known it was terrorism sooner, and I SAID he was a bad guy for missing it... What I DON'T think, is that he's in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood like you guys do.
What else do you want? Do you want me to call him a socialist Marxist Kenyon hell bent on destroying the American way of life?? Well, it ain't going to happen...
excon
Nah you don't have to call him Kenyan .
I must have missed that yesterday, just like I missed where I thought he was in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood. Is that one of those dog whistle thingies I can't hear?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
My point about bringing up the movie is that we know that the attack on Stevens was the mission;that the attacks on the Cairo embassy was a ruse . That they have spread is because of the initial effectiveness of the attacks. Now knowing the attack was retaliation for the killing of AQ's 2nd in command... Abu Yahya al-Libi (ie.. from Libya ) ;what will be their reaction to a chest bumping full length celebration of OBL ?
Don't get me wrong... I plan on going to see it opening weekend and will cheer with the best of them.
I think Obama is lying about the video to imply this is about disrespect for Islam because his bs that if you wack OBL the war on jihadistan is over has been tragically proven a fantasy.
Still better than that crazy mexican mormon.
The Mormon was smart enough to work hard enough and make a fortune when he grew up in poverty... He wasn't a Kennedy who inherited their money.
Unlike Obama who grew up and lived a life of privilege... who only made what money he has selling two books to a bunch of fools.
Romney? LOL! You have no idea what you are talking about... again.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Are you a lawyer? What is your profession?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
You are just Jealous that Romney is smarter and has more business sense than you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
He grew up in one of the country's most affluent neighborhoods. You were so wrong about his growing up poor. So very wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Very disengenuous of you, there is no evidence to support your claimQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Right.. the Canadian who wasn't around at the time is who we are supposed to take the word of?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Need proof... how rich did he get? How many people does he have working for him? At what age did he retire?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Whom of us are still working because we AREN'T that rich... or because we don't have underlings to do everything for us.
Hey... I can say that, because its true.
I'm also not claiming to be smarter than Romney unlike so many Democrats who haven't even come close to the success level I have much less what Romney has achieved.
People don't spend their life working service industry jobs because they like it... they do it because they aren't smart enough to do better.
If I was as smart as Mitt and had as much business sense I'd be retired right now myself, or rolling in the money while I have others doing all the work for me... but I'm not, and I'm not even close to it. Though I do make good money I don't really have to work all that hard to make, sweat or get dirty... In some parts of the world I'd be considered rich... and in fact I make a damn good wage compared to Europeans doing anything remotely similar... Because I'm one of less that 100 people in the country with the background and skill-set that I have, and one of even fewer that are actually doing it.
Unfortunately it doesn't translate to financial independence or being able to tell my employer to go get stuffed.
But it does allow me to have several Mercedes Benz (as in more than two) in my driveway.
smoothy have you noticed you are raving?
No one expects you to match Romney, in fact with his reputation for creating unemployment who would want to. Remember his fortune was won at the expense of others.
Now I am not rich by the standards of some, in fact my tax rate is lower than Romneys, nor do I have hot and cold running flunkeys, which you seem to consider desirable, but money is only good to buy what you need; beyond that...
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Remember his fortune was won at the expense of others
Thousands of workers in many companies owe their jobs to his business sense.
And thousands more are on the unemployment lines because of him. Hey I know how this thing works buy a company strip it of its assets, fire it's employees and sell it off
I can tell you the companies he helped get off the ground or saved and the number of employees they have . At best you guys come up with a couple that went belly up ;and would've gone belly up with or without Romney .Quote:
and thousands more are on the unemployment lines because of him
Hello again,
His job WASN'T to save jobs.. It was to make a profit. THAT he did. Sure he CREATED some jobs, and he DESTROYED some jobs. That's what businessmen do. Get over it.
NONE of that qualifies or disqualifies him to be president...
The ONE thing that DOES qualify him to be president is his SIGNATURE law that he got passed in Ma. Oh, that's right... He CAN'T mention that...
Santorum was right... In terms of the hated Obamacare, he's absolutely the WRONG guy to run against it... I don't know WHY you guys love to shoot yourselves in the foot, but the prize was bigger this time... Two and maybe THREE Supreme Court Justices... That's going to shape the ENTIRE 21st Century...
excon
Agreed... The Repubics have a habit of playing their B team. But the shine has come off Obama's halo too. This is resembling the Kerry -McCain contest... the consolation round . Obama is polling like Kerry did in 2004, and Romney is polling like McCain did in 2008. This election is like the NFL counting on fans watching games officiated by Lingerie League rejects . We the people get to vote against the other side's loser.
"I do not know if the people of the United States would vote for superior men if they ran for office, but there can be no doubt that such men do not run.” (Alexis de Tocqueville 'Democracy in America')
It is what it is Tom, you guys have your guy, we have ours. You can't cry because your guy ain't who YOU want!
No telling where the poll would be if Newt, Rick, or Herman had gotten the nomination. Or if Mitt was running a BETTER campaign. Did I leave out Michele??
Tal you know these guys are who they are. They aren't world beaters just politicians. This is why they don't have solutions for the economy, it was their sort of thinking that caused the problem. What amazes me is the Christain right is so close to these people, after all the system they espouse is the opposite of Christian principles
Yeah Jesus was a commie
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
He kind of WAS, wasn't he?
excon
Well the republican party is certainly not following his teachings that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Obama has been dodging the question about the attack on Ambassador Stevens by saying he is waiting for the FBI's investigation.
Now it is revealed that the FBI has not begun an investigation at the site yet over 2 weeks after the attack. CNN National Security Analyst Fran Townsend says the FBI has not ventured past Tripoli in their pursuit of the truth . CNN also reports that the State Department hasn't secured the consulate since the attack, despite a direct requests from the FBI.That means that an investigation of the site is pretty much a meaningless venture at this point since it is highly probable that evidence has been removed and/or tampered with .
Also AQ leader Ayman al Zawahiri's brother has claimed credit as an organizer of the Cairo protest;which gives credence to the claim that the Cairo riots and the attack on the Ambassador was a coordinated event. I'm sure the Obots have been doing their best to keep the lid on this information until after the election . But the web of deceit is unravelling .
No actually he liked capitalism... Matthew 25 14-30Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
That's one nasty Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Well, he was Jew... But he believed in taking care of his fellow man, didn't he?? He wasn't for throwing them off the cliff, was he?? If so, those are even BETTER reasons I'm NOT a Christian..
excon
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