When Im talking about party politics Im addressing those in my own country. World views are much different then those here at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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When Im talking about party politics Im addressing those in my own country. World views are much different then those here at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So you truly think that democrats want to have white people own black slaves? You might want to do some of that internet research.Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
I believe that as the democrats display on a daily basis they think everyone is beneath them. Just look at how they truly act.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What else should you expect from people who believe their leader is from heaven? Check out the August image...Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/02/dnc_2012_still_kitschin_.html
Wow, a guy made his own calendar and apparently that means all democrats are like this. :eye roll:
No sir, but it's even creepier than your obsession with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Links please? How do they truly act?Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
Don't worry, Tal, it's the pot calling the kettle black, what do you think are the republican chances of electing a negro president?
And this goes back to what I said in my original post. You just proved my point. Thanks Dad!Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
So why did you post it?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Why do you stalk me?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Why do you think that someone replying to your posts is stalking? I replied to calif as well, am I stalking him too? I replied to a post by tom on another thread, am I stalking him as well? There are a whole bunch of people replying to other people in dozens of threads, is that stalking too?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Dude, you do have an obsession with me and it's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You should know by now there are no authentic black Republicans but my question is why should it matter? I thought the whole point of racial harmony was making skin color irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
What do you think the chances are of the Dems voting for a Republican black candidate ?Quote:
what do you think are the republican chances of electing a negro president?
Ridiculous question Tom totally avoiding the issue that the republicans are racist, I didn't think you could step up to the plate. The idea behind your party system is that you vote for your own candidate and hope to pick up some swinging voters on the way. There is no hope a republican would vote for a democrat black candidate, just like there was no way they would vote for a hispanicQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
What is ridiculous is your assumptions and premise.Quote:
ridiculous question Tom totally avoiding the issue that the republicans are racist, I didn't think you could step up to the plate. The idea behind your party system is that you vote for your own candidate and hope to pick up some swinging voters on the way. There is no hope a republican would vote for a democrat black candidate, just like there was no way they would vote for a hispanic
Why should a Republican vote for a democrat of any color?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I think someone is forgetting Herman Kaine and how abusively he was treated by the left... and how none of these so-called victims ever filed suit and have dissappeard back under the rocks they crawled out from under.
They hated him because he was everything Obama wasn't and could never even hope to be. A smart Republican Black man that had a clue and actually had a public record of success.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Nice that Fox News aired that for him. Fox is a well known lefty propaganda outlet as we all know.Quote:
On November 28, 2011, Cain asserted that a woman named Ginger White would be claiming to have had an affair with him, and that the allegation was not true.[86] An interview with White was aired an hour later on Fox 5 in Atlanta. In the interview, White said the affair lasted 13 years and ended right before Cain announced his presidential campaign.
Typical... Canadian repsonse. Ignores all the other inconvienient facts. Like all the so called accusers, most of whom were never publicly identified.. all of whom still crawled back unde rtheir rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Kind of like the Canadian Prime Minister that paid out of pocket to get heart surgery in the USA, rather than get it in Canda under their "wonderful" system for free. I quess he wasn't willing to wait the needed 6.5 years. But they still think its perfect despite the droves of Candaians coming south for treatment and paying out of pocket to do it.
Besides... what real Leftist ever let things like facts get in the way of their agenda.
What does being canadian have to do with anything?
I was just showing that it wasn't just lefties that skewered him.
And what facts did I ignore? You didn't post any, it was just a rant.
Typical slight of hand. They are just changing the subject. You make a valid point, and they point out something about Canada that has nothing to do with racism even.. they switched to healthcare. Perhaps, they are racist against Canadians! Blame Canada!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
It has everything to do with it... its a typical Liberal tactic... and its one Needkarma uses every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
Not defending Smoothy's post but seriously, NK is the king of "sleight of hand" here. There's no post too relevant for him to avoid spoiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
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Originally Posted by smoothy
You guys are pretty good yourself at spoiling factual discussions with distractions and assertions when there is a conflict of ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Take a bow, and give yourself a hand!
Well, I don't know him personally. However, I have not yet witnessed a slight of hand. As far as this whole topic, the idea that either party has a racial agenda reminds me of the things I've read about the "red scare". It's paranoid and ridiculous. The fact is, yes there are black people that have felt disenchanted by the democrats. There are white people who have felt that from the republicans. No one gets passed the issues, and where you stand on the issues is personal. It isn't handed to you at birth because of your skin, race, religion, etc. Everyone gets to decide for themselves. It is no doubt, like any political party, that the republicans would like more of the minority vote. That's their job, to appeal to as many Americans as possible. The republican party has just failed in it's efforts to reach a large majority of black people. Why? Who knows. There are political analyst far more skilled at figuring that out. Just like democrats have neglected unions. We have, as a nation, kept racism alive by simply keeping up the finger pointing. I still experience prejudice at work from being a woman! And it is 2012! I don't go around accusing a whole party of people of being sexist. When we as a nation decide that we are over it, there won't be any racism. We have to be able to put it down and move on. Or as was stated at the RNC, grow up.
We all have our love and hates, but when your hate is directed at someone and you ACT on it because of race, that's the definition of racism.
It stops when the actions stop.
I agree. However, we aren't going to get very far if one party (republicans) are crying "but..but..but...everyone thinks were racists! Wahhh!" But then turning around and saying "that's because the other party is really the racists. They just use code words to hide it...boo hoo." Its like I'm rubber your glue.. etc. I just don't buy it. They aren't getting the black vote or the latino vote... so they say the other side is the true racist. People vote on issue. The majority of the public cares about the issues that matter to them. The fact that they are being reduced to their skin color because of the party they vote for is racist. You don't see democrats crying that everyone thinks they hate white men... boohoo. Equal nonsense. So, if we could quit making the issues about race.. and address the issues, perhaps, that could be a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Hi Tal,
As I said before there is no factual discussion if we are considering the original question.
The original question is a loaded question so no response can satisfy the presuppositions that go along with it.
No response by you or myself- or anyone else for that matter will be satisfactory.
Tut
The original question isn't a question, its an invitation based on the statement that follows, is the way I took it.
So Republicans just hate black people, is that it?
Maybe it's a loaded question, I don't know, but somebody has to answer it. Or discuss it.
In order to answer such a question you have to find the premise behind it
We'll try this one in simple logic
Obama is a black man, republicans oppose Obama, therefore republicans oppose blacks, it's a short hop from oppose to hate
Many black people are poor, republicans oppose programs which support the poor, therefore
Republicans hate black people'
The reality is republican platforms have a definite impact on the poor and therefore a disproportinate impact on minorities which includes the black community. You do need an affirmative action program to have blacks participate in unemployment, in relief, in welfare. By showing that their programs don't take these impacts into account republicans can be accused of hate
What tactic is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Fairly good interpretation. But of course it's as much BS as what led to this thread, which I covered early on. And that would be these alleged dog whistles like "welfare" and Chicago."Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Speech we are all guilty of B/S on this Board, but behind the B/S is an element of truth.
You have to get it, people think in simple straight lines, if you are not for me you are against me, there is no waivering in the wind here. Tom wants a flat rate tax, why because he will pay less but more important all those who don't earn enough to pay tax will then have to contribute. Allright make the process transparent, increase welfare by the amount of the tax and tax the poor but at the same time do away with all incentives and tax havens the rich enjoy. You see you have some sort of positive racism in play cleaverly disguised as a tax system
Let's say 25% flat tax that everyone has to pay, no deductions, that should be a very popular measure. The Republicans should vote for it in droves. I think someone had an idea like that over there, the alternative minimum or something like that, what happened to it?
Wrong again . Tom wants a flat rate to end the deductions and exemptions ;to eliminate a whole bunch of IRS and tax accountant jobs .The IRS is a massive bureaucracy costing the taxpayers $12 billion each year. The IRS employs more people than the FBI and CIA combined.Most of that could be eliminated from the budget under a flat tax. It will reduce compliance costs(nationwide estimated to be $338 billion on top of the tax bill ) .Quote:
Tom wants a flat rate tax, why because he will pay less but more important all those who don't earn enough to pay tax will then have to contribute.
The special interests(all of them ) hate the flat tax because it means no loopholes, no shelters, and no special preferences. All income is treated equally.
It will also mean increased economic growth and job creation.
What I don't get is people who advocate taxing to discourage economic activity like purchasing tobacco products ,and don't see why the same principle applies to the rest of the economy .
It is a disaster because it was never indexed to inflation. More and more "middle class" taxpayers are getting wacked by it .Quote:
I think someone had an idea like that over there, the alternative minimum or something like that, what happened to it?
The tax code is a disgrace . Both Republics and Dems have been swapping loopholes for campaign cash ,and using it as a social engineering tool ;instead of it's only function ,to pay for the operation of the government, since the income tax was imposed in 1913.
So because Republicans think people should be treated equally we're the racists. Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Sarcastic, passive-agressive language makes you seem defensive and sensitive. I didn't get that from paraclete's point at all. The statement to me read that everyone has some B/S and there is a little truth behind it. There was nothing pointed at republicans specifically, just everyone on this site. Sounded pretty even and all inclusive to me. Don't be so wounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Sarcastic yes, but the rest of that sentence is utter nonsense. The only thing you omitted from that screed commonly uttered by condscending liberals on blogs everywhere, was telling me I'm "projecting."Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
Please, don't bother with the diagnoses. You really aren't very good at it and I know what I'm doing and where I'm going with my responses. You don't.
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