You corrected that many spelling errors ?
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You corrected that many spelling errors ?
Oddly enough, no. :D I help people; on boards that allow ratings. Do you?
Almost as ridicules as the as the house taking another symbolic vote to repeal the ACA law, or the relentless republican end run to subvert the rights to an abortion. Or the hostage taking of American well being by refusing to compromise at all on any useful legislation to move the country forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I marvel at the legislative unity of the republican party, but I am disgusted by the results. So is the rest of the country, as your efforts to save your country have been exposed as a tactic to gain power by the plutocrats and destroy the will of the people by destroying the middle class. Now that's truly ridicules.
You guys, the republicans, yes even the fair minded among you, have sunk pretty low to funnel wealth and power to the few as the many suffer from your actions. Even the common republicans like yourself and Speech, seem to have no clue as to how you are being used by the loony tunes of your far right and the monied interest that exploits your fears to their own ends, at your expense.
Its easy to rant and rave about the ridicules lock step manner that you guys do business, and how far you would go to accomplish your own agenda, at the expense of the general welfare of the people.
This is turning the best republic in history into nothing but a third rate dictatorship. History tells us that most great nations are destroyed from within, and you guys are paying no heed to the it.
Its okay for you to pontificate your truth, but ridicules when I do the same? That's ridicules.
Something else that's really ridicules,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2838719/posts
All this effort to scrub this guy and present him as the savior will fail. But your efforts fit the mold of wanting some elite plutocrat to worship,and pay homage to.Quote:
"The blind trust is an age-old ruse," Romney told the Boston Globe in October of that year. "You give a blind trust rules. You can say to a blind trust, don't invest in properties which would be in conflict of interest or where the seller might think they're going to get an advantage from me."
Yes ;we'll see some ridiculous Dems voting with the Repubics because they are concerned about their reelection prospects .Quote:
Almost as ridicules as the as the house taking another symbolic vote to repeal the ACA law,
Oh we are well aware how the "progressive " agenda is destroying the foundation of the nation. Your rhetoric has little difference in substance than that of Hugo Chavez .Quote:
This is turning the best republic in history into nothing but a third rate dictatorship. History tells us that most great nations are destroyed from within, and you guys are paying no heed to the it.
When I'm inclinded to do so. I don' t obsess over trivial matters like who has more 'reputation'Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Niether do I. That's whi I've refuzed to become and 'Expert'.
Nope, the "progressive agenda" has nothing to do with it. The taking over of your country by corporations is what's killing whatever one believes is this nebulous "foundation" is.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Whether you like it or not, our great nation is making adjustments that have to be made to grow. As to my rhetoric, its no worse than the noise by the right, but with less fear, and gloom, and doom!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Haven't you noticed?
Who gives a rat's a$$ about score? You're supposed to help others with no expectation of return.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Agreed. But he was trying to say that I didn't do anything useful on this website so that was a way to show him that was untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Nice language though.
I don't know but I imagine he meant doing something useful on the current events forum - besides acting as the language monitor.
Hello again,
Eric Holder, our esteemed Attorney General, thinks these voter ID laws are poll taxes. He's RIGHT, and hopefully he can STOP 'em.
excon
'Cause I gave him the correct spelling once? That would be a stretch. I guess I need to remember how sensitive some people are.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Nice of you and the AG to play the race card.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Scuze me... Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
excon
"Nice language though."Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I see a pattern.
So intentionally firing up blacks with no - zero - evidence to back it up isn't playing the race card?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Poll taxes usually mean some money involved . The only money involved in Pa is the tax- payers footing the bill for free photo id's .
Earlier today Holder addressed the NAACP What did media need in order to attend? That's right, government issued photo identification ;and a second form of identification too.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
He wasn't addressing Pennsylvania specifically. Plus, as you mentioned it's not one of the southern states that require monitoring..
But, as noted in my many posts, not ALL the states that require the new ID's are GIVING them away for free. Plus, they need to REPORT to get it, and that ain't free in ANYBODY'S book. Then if they don't have the required ID, they have to PAY to get one...
That's a poll tax.
excon
... and they have to GO somewhere to get the ID.
Hello again, Carol:
In Texas, a gun license is an accepted form of voter ID, but a STUDENT ID isn't.
Since students are more likely to vote for Obama, and gun owners aren't, it looks like there's an attempt to suppress the student vote... Now, I COULD be wrong... But, I ain't.
There doesn't even seem to be a pretext here either. It's BLATANT. The only ones who can't see it, are our resident right wingers.
excon
Dear excon:
Just out of curiosity, why would a student photo ID be unacceptable? I missed out on the explanation for that.
Carol
Please tell me which state doesn't have them for free . Texas has a free id provision ,so does Georgia .Not sure about Florida ,but if you don't have a photo id ;you are given a ballot that is valid if your signature matches your voter registration card (same provisions as New York) .
I keep looking for all this voter suppression and I don't see it .
Does a student ID give your permanent address ? If I'm registered in NY why should I expect to be allowed to vote in Texas ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I can vote only at my own polling place and nowhere else. If I'm visiting my mother in western NY in November and want to vote, I'm out of luck.
Just looked at my student ID card from grad school -- shows photo, name, signature, DOB, SS#, school name/address, degree being worked on, and my school ID#.
First it's a "poll tax" and Thinkprogress says "Romney Supports Voter ID Laws That Could Disenfranchise 25% Of African-Americans".
No hyperbole there, eh?
The student IDs I've seen here are just a photo that says you're a student at that school. I could be from anywhere.
High school? College? Maybe you need to get out more?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Maybe you should cease the condescension?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Dogs, dead people get election docs from nonprofit
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2018684148.jpgQuote:
The voter registration form arrived in the mail last month with some key information already filled in: Rosie Charlston's name was complete, as was her Seattle address.
Problem is, Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998.
A group called the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some 5 million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults.
But residents and election administrators across the country also have reported a series of bizarre and questionable mailings addressed to animals, dead people, noncitizens and people already registered to vote.
Brenda Charlston wasn't the only person to get documents for her pet: A Virginia man said similar documents arrived for his dead dog, Mozart, while a woman in the state received forms for her cat, Scampers.
"On a serious note," Charlston said, "I think it's tampering with our voting system. They're fishing for votes: That's how I view it."
No, we don't need no stinkni' ID to vote, any ol' dog, cat, dead guy or non-citizen should have their say. Twice even.
No condescension. Sorry you read it like that. I dug out my college (undergrad) ID -- college name and address, date of issue. Photo, sig, birthdate, college ID#, and that was in the mid '60s. A student ID with photo and sig is not good enough to prove that 's the person who wants to vote? Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Maybe they thought Rosie the black lab was black.Quote:
Problem is, Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998.
A group called the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some 5 million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults.
Hello again, Steve:
Nobody said that aren't obscure cased of voter fraud... However, given the tradeoff of disenfranchising MILLIONS of eligible voters, to eliminate SEVERAL cases of voter fraud, I'll take the most REASONABLE position... If you couldn't guess, that's NOT your position.
Since it's UNREASONABLE to suggest that MILLIONS of people give up their right to vote for NONSENSICAL reasons, I suggest the REAL reason is voter suppression.
excon
Targeting dead people and dogs is obscured? The more I show fraud and attempts at it the more you dig your heels in. Bull you know what.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Again, if Rosie gets to vote I am the one disenfranchised - not that poor black lady that had to get a free ID.
This ain't the '60s. A college ID around here is a name, a pic and a bar code. The student could be from anywhere - Oklahoma, Illinois, Italy or Finland. It proves nothing in the way of citizenship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
NOBODY wants somebody to vote who isn't qualified to vote. But, to disenfranchise MILLIONS of eligible voters to stop, what amounts to MINIMAL crime, is OVERKILL. There's SOMETHING else going on, it's voter suppression. I don't know WHY you can't see it... Actually, I think you can, but you KNOW that Romney CAN'T win unless you guys do this. So, it's all done with a wink and a nod - I mean who wants illegal people to vote??Quote:
During the Bush administration, a rhetorical tool became public policy. The Republicans could not get a photo ID law through the Senate, but they were able to enlist the 93 United States attorneys in their crusade against voter fraud. In 2002, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft announced an initiative that required “all components of the [Justice] Department” to “place a high priority on the investigation and prosecution of election fraud.”
Five years later, Ashcroft’s initiative hasn’t produced all that much in the way of convictions, at least relative to the overall Department of Justice caseload. Prosecutions for electoral fraud remain a minuscule part of the federal criminal docket. In 2002 alone, there were 80,424 criminal cases concluded nationwide in the 94 U.S. District Courts. By comparison, according to a DOJ document, between the fall of 2002 and the fall of 2005, there were only 95 defendants charged with federal election-fraud-related crimes in the whole country.
Excon
I was comparing my college ID card from back when to my more recent college ID card I had mentioned in an earlier post in this thread. That shows college ID cards haven't changed in over 40 years. The student's sig isn't on the ID card you are referring to? It should be or it's a pretty lame ID process that particular college is using. A college ID card is used for some pretty major transactions, not all of which are on campus. The important thing on college ID cards is the student's signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What I see here is that someone has found a class of voter who might have more sense than the general electorate
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