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  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:52 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Could you link us to that post please?

    Google fox news and the Arizona Shooting and the lunatic shooters name... read it from the source and you can't make the claims it was edited. But then... you won't believe that either will you? The Party will exile anyone who believes anything other than what the party tells them to believe. Like under Chairman Mao.

    Incidentally... present proof the shooter, had ANY right leanings... and that ANYONE on the right had any contributions at all in this matter.


    The Lunatic hated this woman over an issue the leftist propaganda machine never published... and that she wasn't left wing enough to suit him.

    And Again... since Sarah Palin SPecifically was Slandered and Libels by the DNC proaganda machine... present any proof to the claims made by the lefty so-called "Journalists" . Because they have shown... they have as much a grasp or Reality as Dan Rather did... and rather manufacture a false news story than actually report on reality.


    Come on now... just say what you have been trained to say... Its really George Bushes fault...
  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    So you can't link to any proof then. Thanks for playing.

    <like shooting fish in a barrel>
  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:56 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Google fox news and the Arizona Shooting and the lunatic shooters name.....

    Hello again, smoothy:

    In other words, you pulled it out of your a$$.

    excon
  • Jan 20, 2011, 10:53 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    In other words, you pulled it out of your a$$.

    excon

    Prove FOX was wrong then... they presented EVIDENCE... I'm sure you know what that is... exactly what evidence is there that backs anything the left
    Have been spewing.



    I suppose you still Believe Dan Rather even after it was definatively proven that evidence he used was a fabrication too?
  • Jan 20, 2011, 10:58 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Prove FOX was wrong then....they presented EVIDENCE...

    So, link us to it.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 11:53 AM
    tomder55

    I don't know what we are trying to prove. I posted this link on the Jesse Ventura OP because that is where I think his mind was at .

    Jared Loughner's friend says suspect 'Did not watch TV … disliked the news' - TVNewser

    He was also a big fan of that net movie that was popular on these pages a while ago called 'Zeitgeist' .

    I can also point out that it may have been his education that drove him off the deep end . He attended a school system that used an interesting curriculum .

    Loughner attended Mountain View H.S. part of Arizona's Morana Unified School District.
    The school utilized a curriculum called 'the Small Schools Workshop '.
    About Us | Small Schools Workshop

    The Small School Workshop was developed in Chicago by Mike Klonsky ,who is currently it's director .

    Who is Mike Klonsky ? Klonsky in the late 1960s was the national secretary of 'Students for a Democratic Society' which also had William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn .They later broke away from the group to form the terrorist Weather Underground. Klonsky left and eventually became a leader of the 'New Communist Movement' .While in the Communist movement he was one of the U.S. political activists who visited the People's Republic of China to seek the endorsement of Communist China for a political party he had helped establish in the United States, the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist).
    In his book “Revolution in the Air,” Max Elbaum said that the Chinese hailed Klonsky and effectively recognized his party as the official US Maoist party.
    Klonsky claims to have become critical of Marxist dogma since although there are other reports that his real disillusion was in the Chinese market reforms post-Mao .

    He reunited with Ayers in 1991 to start up the 'Small School Workshop' which was originally associated with the University of Illinois in Chicago where Klonsky and Ayers both taught .It was funded by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Later in the decade Ayers recruited Barack Obama to run the Annenberg Challenge. Obama in that role continued to support the Small School Workshop which provides the curriculum called Smaller Learning Communities that is used at Mountain View H.S.

    Loughner attended there until he dropped out his senior year.

    Loughner according to fellow students holds extreme leftist tendencies .His Youtube rants reveal someone who has a streak of anarchist leanings in him. It appears Ayers and Klonsky found a willing pupil .

    Mother Jones interviewed a friend of Loughner . He says that Loughner held a years-long grudge against Giffords and had repeatedly derided her as a "fake." This grudge began long before Palin entered the national scene and intensified after he attended a "Congress in Your Corner" event hosted by Giffords in 2007.
    Quote:

    "He told me that she opened up the floor for questions and he asked a question. The question was, 'What is government if words have no meaning?'"
    "He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question.' Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."
    Giffords' answer, whatever it was, didn't satisfy Loughner. [I]"He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question,' and I told him, 'Dude, no one's going to answer that,'" Tierney recalls. "Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."
    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...message?page=1
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:05 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He attended a school system that used an interesting curriculum .

    Loughner attended Mountain View H.S. ,part of Arizona's Morana Unified School District.
    The school utilized a curriculum called 'the Small Schools Workshop '.
    About Us | Small Schools Workshop

    Sounds like a good program, what issue do you have with it?
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:16 PM
    tomder55

    Oh I don't know... I guess I naturally get suspcious when a Maoists sets the indoctination program for the youth of America.

    Maybe because this radical of the 1960s who wanted to destroy the country is quoted as saying

    “We’ve learned how to work within the system,” ....“The fight to save and improve public education embodies all the issues we were fighting for back then.”
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:23 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    oh I don't know ...I guess I naturally get suspcious when a Maoists sets the indoctination program for the youth of America.

    LOL!
    Nothing like running on emotion responses 24/7. Must be exhausting.
    Of course you have no issue with the religious indoctrination of children do you? Haha.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:24 PM
    tomder55

    There is no religious indoctrination in public schools.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:36 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    There is no religious indoctrination in public schools.

    And there is no "maoist" indoctrination in public schools.

    Do you even know what Maoism is?
    Quote:

    Marxism-Leninism as interpreted by Mao Tse-tung: distinguished by its theory of guerrilla warfare and its emphasis on the revolutionary potential of the peasantry
    Seems it's you that advocates revolution of the peasantry, such as your post here:
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post2675543
  • Jan 20, 2011, 12:59 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So, link us to it.

    You can use Google... Just enter fox... most of page one will deal with it. Plenty of proof even without FOX... the facts are not hard to find... except on any liberal so-called-news outlet where they believe reality is what they say it is.

    After all... you would dismiss anything Fox proves... but you accept the Messiahs word he actually attended College and got good grades when nobody has ever seen any proof he even attended, much less graduated or got passing grades much less outstanding ones.

    And you believe anything the DNC commands you to believe... absent any proof any of it has any basis in reality.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:00 PM
    NeedKarma
    Smoothy fails again.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:02 PM
    tomder55

    I know who Mao was and I know what his philosophy produced... 20 million dead Chinese .

    So we have some guy who admires the collective nightmare called the 'Cultural Revolution' designing curriculum for our children... gee swell !
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:04 PM
    NeedKarma
    And you're preaching the same thing because you want some dead americans, preferably liberals.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:06 PM
    excon

    Hello again,

    Instead of YOUR wild tangent, let's do mine... I have it on good authority that it was the dry Arizono heat... He also read Ayn Rand. He's a right winger on dry heat... That's a dangerous combination.

    excon
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:07 PM
    tomder55

    When did I say that ? I quoted Jefferson only in the context that Ex was using Angle's quote.

    As I have noted before ,Jefferson for a variety of reasons ,was my favorite founder.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:07 PM
    NeedKarma
    Isn't hyperbole fun? I'm learning so fun from the right-wingers on this site!
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
    tomder55

    And still contributing nothing to the discussion.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:12 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and still contributing nothing to the discussion.

    I keep having fun by correcting the disinformation you post. It's a full-time job!
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:31 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Smoothy fails again.

    Really... in your narrow mind... liberals need no proof of facts... and Conservatives can not provide enough proof of facts...

    A Liberals reality is only what the Party tells them it is... typical of a good communist. Mao tought you all well.


    The Lefties have NOT presented one shred of evidence backing up their claims anyone on the political right had anything to so with the AZ shooting...

    No lefty... reality disabled lefty reporter has proven anything they have claimed...

    THat makes them liars... and in fact it rises to the level of criminal behaviour.

    And anyone who supports them are no better.


    PROVE those claims first... THEN I might consider taking time out of my day to prove hwat I said... because I demanded that proof first... so put up or shut up.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 01:38 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I keep having fun by correcting the disinformation you post. It's a full-time job!

    Really hard in your personal fantasy world were everything changes by the minute isn't it? If you moved to the real world (the world of reality vs Fantasy) you might see where your problem lies.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 02:14 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Really hard in your personal fantasy world were everything changes by the minute isn't it? If you moved to the real world (the world of reality vs Fantasy) you might see where your problem lies.

    Haha, you're funny, I like your stuff.
  • Jan 20, 2011, 02:53 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    A Liberals reality is only what the Party tells them it is......typical of a good communist. Mao tought you all well.


    .

    Now let me see what does my little red book say about that?
  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:09 PM
    smoothy

    The Democrat party is clearly looking to get a protected status by collectively claiming they ALL suffer from a severe reality deficiency. And suffer from a serious case of Truth Adversion.


    Because they are totally clueless about reality and facts... and have absolutely no desire to deal with anything that approaches reality or truth.

    THey live in their own little world just like schiizophrenics do... only The Dems do it by choice.

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