Ask Me Help Desk

Ask Me Help Desk (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum.php)
-   Current Events (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=486)
-   -   How about that Sarah Palin? (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=417153)

  • Nov 24, 2009, 08:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    Good luck with your nominee!
  • Nov 24, 2009, 09:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    This is the only excerpt from the book I've seen:

    Quote:

    “The apartment was small, with slanting floors and irregular heat and a buzzer downstairs that didn’t work, so that visitors had to call ahead from a pay phone at the corner gas station, where a black Doberman the size of a wolf paced through the night in vigilant patrol, its jaws clamped around an empty beer bottle.”
  • Nov 24, 2009, 09:16 AM
    tomder55

    It's too presumptious to assume she is even running. A book signing tour and being an advocate for positions and candidates is a good first step. But until I see her setting up the state by state organization necessary to running a national campaign I will not have proof she is throwing her hat in the ring.
    Last year Fred Thompson had the best positions of any Republican candidate . But he was unwilling to do what was necessary to be a serious contender. It remains to be seen what course Palin will take.
  • Nov 24, 2009, 09:19 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    This is the only excerpt from the book I've seen:


    Quote:
    “The apartment was small, with slanting floors and irregular heat and a buzzer downstairs that didn't work, so that visitors had to call ahead from a pay phone at the corner gas station, where a black Doberman the size of a wolf paced through the night in vigilant patrol, its jaws clamped around an empty beer bottle.”
    Count on the lamestream media to cherry pick the most substantive quote!!
  • Nov 24, 2009, 09:40 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Count on the lamestream media to cherry pick the most substantive quote !!!

    Funny, that's the exact expression that Limbaugh used. Rush calls Palin memoir "one of the most substantive policy books I've read" | Media Matters for America
  • Nov 24, 2009, 10:59 AM
    tomder55

    It may well be . I'll get back to you on that.
  • Nov 24, 2009, 11:37 AM
    tickle

    She had a book signing at Fort Bragg on Monday (as reported in our Toronto Star today) that went rather well. She looks amazing. They agreed to let her on post because she was no longer a politician. She seems to have the wherewithall to tour and have a special bus. I wasn't aware she was that well off, but maybe so.

    Tick
  • Nov 24, 2009, 11:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    I wasnt aware she was that well off

    Large advance on the book. :)
  • Nov 24, 2009, 11:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    She had a book signing at Fort Bragg on Monday (as reported in our Toronto Star today) that went rather well. She looks amazing. They agreed to let her on post because she was no longer a politician. She seems to have the wherewithall to tour and have a special bus. I wasnt aware she was that well off, but maybe so.

    tick

    I'm sure she got a sizable advance on her book, which sold over 700,000 copies the first week. I don't know how book tours work but I'm guessing the publisher funds tours of this scope.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 07:29 AM
    excon

    Hello again:

    So, whaddya think she meant when she said:

    Israeli settlements should be expanded on the West Bank because “more and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead.”?

    Is it a religious reference?

    excon
  • Nov 27, 2009, 09:54 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again:

    So, whaddya think she meant when she said:

    Israeli settlements should be expanded on the West Bank because “more and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead.”?

    Is it a religious reference?

    excon

    Maybe she knows more then we think she does; a hotline to god maybe ? Who knows what she really does in the wilderness beside shoot moose. Now that opens up a whole new train of thought...

    Tick
  • Nov 27, 2009, 10:48 AM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    maybe she knows more then we think she does; a hotline to god maybe ? Who knows what she really does in the wilderness beside shoot moose. Now that opens up a whole new train of thought.........

    tick

    Maybe she understands Bible prophecy.

    Could it be that on those hunting trips she also (HORRORS!) prays?

    Seems to me that if you are middle class, Christian American, you would understand Sarah Palin.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 10:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Seems to me that if you are middle class, Christian American, you would understand Sarah Palin.

    From what I saw at those book signing interviews I'm frightened by the people who "understand" Sarah Palin - she represents the dumbing down of America.

    On a related note, she got tricked again by a comedian. This time in wonderful Canada where she says that canadians should get rid of their public health care.

    YouTube - Palin Suggests Canada Should 'Reform' Health System To 'Let The Private Sector Take Over'

    Quote:

    When Palin left the signing, Walsh caught up with her in the parking lot, where Palin suggested that Canada should get rid of its public health care system. "Keep the faith" Palin said, "because common sense conservatism can be plugged in there in Canada too. In fact, Canada needs to reform its health care system and let the private sector take over some of what the government has absorbed

    Walsh said, she found it equally bizarre that no one was allowed to ask Palin any questions at the book-signing.... "We're in a bookstore, at a public event, in a place one would think was a bastion of free speech. And no one was allowed to ask questions. What are they afraid of?"
  • Nov 27, 2009, 10:58 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Maybe she understands Bible prophecy.

    Seems to me that if you are middle class, Christian American, you would understand Sarah Palin.

    Hello again, gal:

    I'm all of the above, ceptin the Christian part, and I understand Sarah Palin pretty good. I also got the religious reference she was making.. But, I'm not threatened by her thinking that stuff. I'm happy for her. Don't bother me none...

    Unless she somehow got into office. To make policy based on the Bible isn't something I'd support.

    excon
  • Nov 27, 2009, 11:00 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post



    Seems to me that if you are middle class, Christian American, you would understand Sarah Palin.

    Guess, what, I am not middle class christian american. I am white collar anglican Canadian so I guess I don't understand Sarah Palin, and don't really think I need to:D

    I just have to sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

    Tick
  • Nov 27, 2009, 11:06 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post

    On a related note, she got tricked again by a comedian. This time in wonderful Canada where she says that canadians should get rid of their public health care.
    [/url]

    Yes, I caught that in the Toronto Star two days ago and waited for the comments in A22 Editorials. There was only one from a Canadian that said she was thankful for our healthcare because her breast cancer treatment occurred so quickly after visiting a walk in clinic where she went in a panic not being able to see her doctor.

    Other then that, there were no comments.

    Tick
  • Nov 27, 2009, 11:58 AM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, gal:


    Unless she somehow got into office. To make policy based on the Bible isn't something I'd support.

    excon

    I doubt she would attempt to. If she did, there is still the House and Senate.

    I'm sure though that you understand that there is such a thing as a Biblical world view that is not directly related to any religion. It simply understands human nature and wisdom distilled from thousands of years of experience as recorded in Bible history.

    Hope that clarifies.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 12:12 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    that there is such a thing as a Biblical world view that is not directly related to any religion. It simply understands human nature and wisdom distilled from thousands of years of experience as recorded in Bible history.

    Hello again, gal:

    Human nature I can deal with. Predicting that Jews would flock to Israel so the tribulation gets started, I can't.

    excon
  • Nov 27, 2009, 04:21 PM
    galveston

    Since this thread is specifically about Sarah Palin, I post this circulating information for everyone's consideration.

    By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman. As posted in comments on
    Greta's article referencing the MOVE ON ad about Sarah Palin.

    The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing
    Town in Alaska . I understand Alaska politics but never
    Understood national politics well until this last year. Here's
    The breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets
    It. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing
    Things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm
    About to mention here.

    1- Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats,
    Because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a
    Fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into
    The Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them
    Packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and
    Wearing orange jump suits. The Democrats reacted by skipping
    Around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la"
    (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this
    Country that has ever done anything similar.

    2- Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians
    To protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she
    Constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil
    Profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the
    World) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit
    you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska
    Residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich.
    Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly
    Fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in
    The country that has done anything similar.

    3- The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's
    Office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding
    For projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took
    85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over"
    Stack. She let locals know that if we need something built,
    We'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the
    Money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because
    It was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by
    Dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook
    For her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to
    Her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her
    State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine -
    That she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the
    Names of those other governors.

    4- Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she
    Also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a
    Natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private
    Construction project in the history of North America . No one else
    Could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then
    You're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do
    Things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other
    Hand.

    5- For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a
    Place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why
    They couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an
    Investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started...
    This summer, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking
    Them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged
    And reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska
    Won again.

    6- President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources
    For electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted
    Her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already
    At 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed
    To style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look
    Cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from
    Liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has
    Done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.

    By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national
    Election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear
    Your face off. Should have known better.

    You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media,
    Along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to
    Discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers,
    Dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter
    Ex-presidents' wives.

    So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts,
    Determination, honesty, and morals.

    I rest my case.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 07:17 PM
    NeedKarma
    Gal,
    I do believe the liberuls really want your Sarah to run. Go girl!

    Hey gal, do you also have respect for Glen Beck?
  • Nov 28, 2009, 02:51 AM
    tomder55
    What galveson said is correct. She had wide support among the Democrats when she was taking on the corrupt Republican Murkowski establishment.
    Dubbed by a reporter the 'Corrupt B@stard Club' (which so amused those involved they started wearing hats and tee shirts with that name on it) ;a FBI investigation led to the arrest of several state officers including Murkowski's Chief of Staff .
    Alaska political corruption probe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Palin was elected in the middle of the probe and began the process of reforming Alaska politics.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 06:18 AM
    excon

    Hello again,

    Look, she's a sweetie... If only she KNEW important stuff. But, she doesn't...

    That's OK, though. I'm not putting her down. I didn't know important stuff before I took the time to learn it. She could have took the time... She didn't.

    It's true. Knowing stuff isn't high on the Republican list of wants. But, personally, I kind of value it.

    excon
  • Nov 28, 2009, 09:00 AM
    George_1950

    Sarah Palin on November 25, in Florida:

    YouTube - Sarah Palin at The Villages
  • Nov 28, 2009, 10:07 AM
    excon

    Hello again, George:

    I saw the video. They LOVE her, in small town America. That's why she's avoiding the big cities...

    There's a Maryland State Senator on the Video named Nancy Jacobs. She tells it like it is when she says, Sarah Palin is ".. just your normal average person .."

    I don't disagree. I just don't think your normal average person knows much about the world, and she doesn't. That's all I'm saying.

    But in terms of her being a strong female role model, as a mom, and especially being the mother of Trig, I actually think she's pretty great. She just doesn't know stuff.

    excon
  • Nov 28, 2009, 10:14 AM
    NeedKarma
    I stayed one week at the Villages - you do realize that it's a retirement community right? That the same demographic as Fox News so its no surprise.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 10:23 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That the same demographic as Fox News so its no surprise.

    Hello again, NK:

    It IS interesting, that in the beginning of the video, the local FOX noise dude, said that "the patriotic crowd waited for hours, then the bus pulled up.. "

    I wonder what HIS politics are?? Hmmmm.

    excon
  • Nov 28, 2009, 03:00 PM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, George:

    I saw the video. They LOVE her, in small town America. That's why she's avoiding the big cities...

    There's a Maryland State Senator on the Video named Nancy Jacobs. She tells it like it is when she says, Sarah Palin is ".. just your normal average person .."

    I don't disagree. I just don't think your normal average person knows much about the world, and she doesn't. That's all I'm saying.

    But in terms of her being a strong female role model, as a mom, and especially being the mother of Trig, I actually think she's pretty great. She just doesn't know stuff.

    excon

    So, please tell us how much Obama knew when he was elected? Better yet, tell us how much he knows NOW.

    The President doesn't have to KNOW everything. He has lots of advisors to give him the facts he needs.

    What the President MUST have is good judgment so that the information he receives can be put to the best use.

    OK ALL.

    Which of the accomplishments credited to Palin in the letter arn NOT true? Pretty impressive, dontcha' think?

    Hmmm?
  • Nov 28, 2009, 03:41 PM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, George:

    I saw the video. They LOVE her, in small town America. That's why she's avoiding the big cities...

    excon

    Those yocals out in the sticks - they buy a lot of books dude!
  • Nov 28, 2009, 03:45 PM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    So, please tell us how much Obama knew when he was elected? Better yet, tell us how much he knows NOW.

    The President doesn't have to KNOW everything. He has lots of advisors ...

    What the President MUST have is good judgment ...

    OK ALL.

    Which of the accomplishments credited to Palin in the letter arn NOT true? Pretty impressive, dontcha' think?

    Hmmm?

    Poor USA: President Jokobama has no judgement and no advisors, except the Maoists and other far lefties.
  • Dec 1, 2009, 02:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, NK:

    It IS interesting, that in the beginning of the video, the local FOX noise dude, said that "the patriotic crowd waited for hours, then the bus pulled up.. "

    I wonder what HIS politics are?? Hmmmm.

    Wait, I thought patriotism was not the domain of one party. In fact, I thought it was now the domain of Democrats, Sen. Conrad said if you disagree with trying KSM in NY then you can just leave the country. BY the way, CNN seemed to notice the patriotism of the crowd at The Villages last year, it must not have been too hard to spot for a Fox reporter either.

    Anyway, that's not what I'm interested in, this is:

    Quote:

    Sarah Palin Stars as Heroine in New Children's Book

    The former vice presidential candidate is the subject of new book ' Help! Mom! Radicals Are Ruining My Country!'

    While Sarah Palin is certainly making waves with her own best-selling book “Going Rogue,” the former governor and vice presidential candidate is also in the spotlight with a cameo appearance as a heroine in the recently released children’s book “Help! Mom! Radicals Are Ruining My Country!”

    In the book written by Katharine DeBrecht, “Governor Sarah” (a character based on Palin) attempts to help two young boys hold onto their dream of a swing-set business which is struggling as a result of high taxes, heavy regulations and 246 czars.

    “I am trying to let all Americans know that these radicals are killing the American Dream and I want to stop them from hurting people that produce products and provide jobs,” the Palin character consoles the frustrated boys after their business is destroyed by “Marxus Obunduf” who is based on President Obama.

    “I used Palin because I wanted to point out that there is nothing wrong with standing up for your values regardless of who attacks you,” DeBrecht told Foxnews.com. “The book also shows that “Marxus” and his radicals are basically killing the American Dream in their grab for power. I want to tell kids that they can achieve their dreams by working hard and not relying on the government to help them.”
    Help! Mom! Radicals Are Ruining My Country!' I love it, LOL! Much neded balance for children's books such as Mama Voted for Obama! and Barack, the story about "The man whose name the whole world knows."
  • Dec 1, 2009, 04:27 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Look, she's a sweetie... If only she KNEW important stuff. But, she doesn't...



    excon

    She knows when life begins, and that it is precious and valuable.
    That question is not above her paygrade.


    G&P
  • Dec 1, 2009, 04:39 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox View Post
    She knows when life begins, and that it is precious and valuable.
    That question is not above her paygrade.


    G&P

    Okay, I understand your comment about when life begins, all women are given that knowledge, if they choose to acknowledge it and accept it. That is not unique to Palin.

    What question is above her paygrade ?

    Tick
  • Dec 1, 2009, 06:21 PM
    tomder55
    The line about "above my pay grade " was given by candidate Obama when asked about the question of when human life begins.
  • Dec 2, 2009, 07:13 AM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The line about "above my pay grade " was given by candidate Obama when asked about the question of when human life begins.

    Otherwise known as 'political' rope-a-dope: "In competitive situations other than boxing, rope-a-dope is used to describe strategies in which one party purposely puts itself in what appears to be a losing position, attempting thereby to become the eventual victor." Rope-a-dope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also illustrated in his votes, "Present", while serving in the Illinois Senate. ""In the Illinois state Senate, Senator Obama voted 130 times 'present.' That's not yes, that's not no. That's maybe," Hillary Rodham Clinton said in a debate Monday." Fact Check: Obama's 'present' votes - Boston.com
  • Dec 2, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950 View Post
    Senator Obama voted 130 times 'present.' That's not yes, that's not no. That's maybe

    In Illinois government saying "present" means "not yet," get back to work on this bill and clean it up or retool it or somehow fix it so it can be brought out into the light of day again. Saying "present" in Illinois has nothing to do with being wishy-washy.
  • Dec 2, 2009, 10:34 AM
    tomder55

    Obama was the lone "present" vote on legislation allowing the victims of rape and other sex crimes to have their court records sealed. Would you say that was a vote worthy of firmer stuff than indecision ?
  • Dec 2, 2009, 11:08 AM
    speechlesstx

    Even the NY Times described it as "effectively sidestepping the issue." I think anyone can understand voting "present" in Illinois at times, but not 130 times. That's called "political cover."
  • Dec 2, 2009, 02:05 PM
    galveston

    Apparently, none of Palin's detractors can find anything to criticize about her accomplishments.

    So what does that leave them to honestly criticize?
  • Dec 2, 2009, 02:42 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Apparently, none of Palin's detractors can find anything to criticize about her accomplishments.

    So what does that leave them to honestly criticize?

    I like her too, galveston and she appears to have a good head on her shoulders but she really needs some geography lessons. If she ever plans on running, she will have to take some crash courses.

    Tick
  • Dec 2, 2009, 04:52 PM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    I like her too, galveston and she appears to have a good head on her shoulders but she really needs some geography lessons. If she ever plans on running, she will have to take some crash courses.

    tick

    Possibly true, but core values and judgment are far more important than being a walking world Atlas. We have maps for what we don't remember.

    It's like the spelling, potato or potato. The latter was correct in an earlier day, and has nothing to do with anything, but one promising career was cut short because of such nit-picking.

    I realize the left are accomplished nit-pickers when they can't find real substance to criticize.

  • All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:36 AM.