Ask Me Help Desk - Radio star approved as NFL owner

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

He is insane. And if you believe him then you are also insane.

There's the 'marginalization' tactic again. When you know you're wrong and have no further argument to support your position, marginalize the opposition. Pure Alinskyite tactics.

Ruch got screwed. You couldn't point to a racist comment and neither could anyone else. Those that made claims that Rush made comments about "slavery" turned out to be full of crap. There is no incident that anyone can point to that makes him inelligible to be an NFL owner. You know it, we know it, and you have no counter to that argument. So instead you call anyone who doesn't agree with your position "insane" in an attempt to marginalize the opposition.

You guys on the left are sooooo predictable.

Elliot

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

ET I like at it like this. I don't care if the NFL is a Monopoly. They provide me with entertainment once a week. I look at them as a private club. They can make their own rules and if you don't like it then you can go watch the UFL. Maybe Rush can buy one of their teams if he loves the sport so much!

So you don't have a problem with the idea that the owners of McDonalds and Burger King get to choose who the next owner of Wendy's is going to be? Just as long as you get your fast food the way you like it.

So much for free trade.

Elliot

Maybe Jeffrey Lurie should be dumped from the league . When he signed Vick he said before he would sign him ;he would need to see from Vick "a lot of self-hatred in order to approve this."

The white owner of the Eagles needed to see self hatred from a black player before he would sign him... hmmmmm!! Why does he still have a franchise ?

Keith Olberman made the comments Steve cited in the OP against an Asian American commentator . Olberman is not employed by the NFL ,but one of his roles in the NBC network is as a punster on the Sunday Night football "Countdown" . Why is there no outrage for his blatantly (sourced and confirmed ) comments against an Asian-American ?

Discrediting a future Hall of Fame QB saying the media only wants him to be good because he is black is racist. When Chad Pennington took over as the Jets QB and won a measly 7 games the media was talking like he was the next Joe Namath. Chad Pennington SUCKED where was Rush at bashing him? No where could it be because he was white?

ET did you miss the beginning of my post where I said the reason he was insane? Here it is again:

The sad thing about it is the NFL commissioner came out the other day and basically said your comments about McNabb offended the NFL and we don't want you in the league. And Rush's reaction, That is not the reason I was dropped. It is the left and the democratic party trying to kill conservatism.

There is no Fast Food League that McD, BK, and Wendys, belong to. Maybe you haven't notice the NFL symbol on Every teams Jersey. The NFL is the ruler of these teams, You either play by their rules or you don't play. Maybe you poison yourself with that so called food but I care about myself too much to even think about eating that crap.

Tom killing animals is not a black or white thing. You are twisting what Lurie said. He wants Vick to hate himself for what he did not because of the color of is skin. But nice try.

Tom Olberman didn't make a racial slur. He called a person a bag of meat. How is that anti Asian?

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Discrediting a future Hall of Fame QB saying the media only wants him to be good because he is black is racist. When Chad Pennington took over as the Jets QB and won a measly 7 games the media was talking like he was the next Joe Namath. Chad Pennington SUCKED where was Rush at bashing him? No where could it be because he was white?

ET did you miss the beginning of my post where i said the reason he was insane? here it is again:

The sad thing about it is the NFL commissioner came out the other day and basically said your comments about McNabb offended the NFL and we don't want you in the league. And Rush's reaction, That is not the reason I was dropped. It is the left and the democratic party trying to kill conservatism.

There is no Fast Food League that McD, BK, and Wendys, belong to. Maybe you haven't notice the NFL symbol on Every teams Jersey. The NFL is the ruler of these teams, You either play by their rules or you don't play. Maybe you poison yourself with that so called food but I care about myself to much to even think about eating that crap.

Actually, since I only eat Kosher, I happen not to eat Micky D's or BK or Wendy's. But that's besides the point.

So... the NFL is the "ruler". Interesting that you should use that term. That is the very thing that anti-trust laws are SUPPOSED to prevent... the NFL becoming a "ruler".

And the fact is that Rush wasn't dropped because of racism. He was dropped because people don't like his politics. So he was right about that.

Furthermore, the comments that Rush made about McNabb were not only NOT racist (seeing as they were aimed at the MEDIA and not at McNabb), they were also true. His comment was not that McNabb isn't a good quaterback. His comment was that the only reason that the media was paying that particular player any attention is because THEY are racists (or reverse-racists, which is the same thing) who never expected that a black quarterback could make good in the NFL. The comment itself wasn't racist. It was in fact pointing out the racism of the mainstream media.

As it turns out, McNabb IS that good. But that doesn't mean that Rush's comments were wrong. The comments didn't disparage McNabb for being black. They disparaged the MEDIA for giving McNabb more credit than he deserved AT THAT POINT IN HIS CAREER solely because he was black.

Elliot

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Furthermore, the comments that Rush made about McNabb were not only NOT racist (seeing as they were aimed at the MEDIA and not at McNabb), they were also true.

Hello again, Elliot:

So, if I said to tom, that nigger sucks, that wouldn't be racist because I addressed tom and not the black guy?? You guys are really, really bonkers...

You too, are as racist as the limp one is, as evidenced by your comment. So, I guess "it takes one to know one" doesn't work here.

excon

I have accepted that the NFL is the Ruler of these teams a long time ago. If you don't like do something about. If not then Shhhhhhh.

Here you go decide for yourself if McNabb didn't deserve the credit the big bad media (which Rush is a dominate member of) gave him. I have to put it in a link it looked like a mess when I tried to post it. Of course don't use anything after 2003.

Donovan McNabb

I know you don't eat that stuff ET.

Oh and 2002 is the year McNabb Broke his Ankle and played the rest of the game on it!! Yeah he doesn't deserve any of the credit he was giving.

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Discrediting a future Hall of Fame QB saying the media only wants him to be good because he is black is racist.

Already been there, Spit. Rush was criticizing the media and political correctness and he plainly said it was the Eagles defense that carried the team at he time. He was criticizing McNabb's performance, not his blackness, while making the point that the media was praising his performance because of his blackness.

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When Chad Pennington took over as the Jets QB and won a measly 7 games the media was talking like he was the next Joe Namath. Chad Pennington SUCKED where was Rush at bashing him? No where could it be because he was white?

I don't think this is relevant, he has regularly commented on the performance of NFL players and teams for years and years. Whether it's been Pennington or not I'm sure he's said plenty about white players. I've shown more than enough evidence to prove he isn't a racist, but then again those blacks he's honored and surrounded himself with probably aren't legitimately black.

Ok speech lets play this game. Here is just one of his racist quotes:

Limbaugh on Survivor series: "African-American tribe" worst swimmers, Hispanics "will do things other people won't do." On August 23, 2006, Limbaugh suggested that the competition in a season of CBS' Survivor, in which contestants were reportedly divided into competing "tribes" by ethnicity, "is not going to be fair if there's a lot of water events." In support of this assertion, he cited a March 2, 2006, HealthDay article reporting that "young blacks -- especially males -- are much more likely to drown in pools than whites." He later added that Hispanics have "probably shown the most survival tactics," that they "have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders," and that they can "do it without water for a long time, they don't get apprehended, and they will do things other people won't do." On his September 29, 2006, show, Limbaugh claimed "[t]here can only be one reason" Survivor scrapped "segregated" competition after two episodes -- "the white tribe had to be winning."

Rush Limbaugh's red herring | Philly | 10/15/2009

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Oh and 2002 is the year McNabb Broke his Ankle and played the rest of the game on it!!!!! Yeah he doesn't deserve any of the credit he was givin.

And who played for the six weeks he was out? ;)

Was it one of the Detmers? It wasn't Garcia that was only 2 or 3 seasons ago.

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Originally Posted by excon

So, if I said to tom, that nigger sucks, that wouldn't be racist

When did Rush say "that nigger sucks?"

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Was it one of the Detmers? It wasn't Garcia that was only 2 or 3 seasons ago.

So he was out for over a third of the season and he deserved all the credit? I'm sure a Detmer didn't carry them, it would have been the defense just like Rush said :D

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Ok speech lets play this game. Here is just one of his racist quotes:

Limbaugh on Survivor series: "African-American tribe" worst swimmers, Hispanics "will do things other people won't do." On August 23, 2006, Limbaugh suggested that the competition in a season of CBS' Survivor, in which contestants were reportedly divided into competing "tribes" by ethnicity, "is not going to be fair if there's a lot of water events." In support of this assertion, he cited a March 2, 2006, HealthDay article reporting that "young blacks -- especially males -- are much more likely to drown in pools than whites." He later added that Hispanics have "probably shown the most survival tactics," that they "have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders," and that they can "do it without water for a long time, they don't get apprehended, and they will do things other people won't do." On his September 29, 2006, show, Limbaugh claimed "[t]here can only be one reason" Survivor scrapped "segregated" competition after two episodes -- "the white tribe had to be winning."

Rush Limbaugh's red herring | Philly | 10/15/2009

LOL, again he was being satirical, showing the silliness of the PC crowd. Come on Spit, I know you have a sense of humor.

2001 (his third year in the league) over 3,000 yards, 2000 (his second year in the league) over 3,000 yards. What a crappy QB.

That is your guys defense for all racist comments it satire. Sorry it isn't.

It's like a verbally abusive husband. He talks sh*t puts his wife down then says come on baby you know I was joking.

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You are twisting what Lurie said. He wants Vick to hate himself for what he did not because of the color of is skin. But nice try.

Spit... that should be the object lesson for you.
As you are so willing to take Rush's comments out of context I reserve the right to do the same with Lurie's

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

That is your guys defense for all racist comments it satire. Sorry it isn't.

OK, get me the transcript, not the sound bites.

I showed the racist comment speech you can disprove it.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

When did Rush say "that nigger sucks?"

Hello Steve:

You missed my point.. I thought you were smarter than that... Or is it that you don't have an argument, so you decide to deflect the conversation instead... Well, I don't know and I don't care. You KNOW what I meant.

excon

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

I showed the racist comment speech you can disprove it.

OK, how about a complete sentence then?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Steve:

You missed my point.. I thought you were smarter than that... Or is it that you don't have an argument, so you decide to deflect the conversation instead... Well, I dunno and I don't care. You KNOW what I meant.

I get your point and it's wrong. He never said anything remotely close to that.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I get your point and it's wrong. He never said anything remotely close to that.

Hello again, Steve:

NO, you don't. And, I'm tired of the deflection, and the spin. It was said above that certain comments couldn't be racist because they weren't directed at the person being discussed. They were directed at the media...

So, the point of the poster is, I think it was Elliot, apparently one can say racist things ABOUT someone and it ISN'T racist, but it IS racist when it's directed AT the person...

So, I DEBUNKED that stupid argument by bringing up a very racist comment to a 3rd person and asked whether THOSE racist comments were cool, too because they weren't directed at the person. It sailed by you TWICE.

Want to try for a third time?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

NO, you don't. And, I'm tired of the deflection, and the spin. It was said above that certain comments couldn't be racist because they weren't directed at the person being discussed. They were directed at the media...

So, the point of the poster is, I think it was Elliot, apparently one can say racist things ABOUT someone and it ISN'T racist, but it IS racist when it's directed AT the person...

I didn't get that interpretation at all out of Elliot's remarks. Especially since he made it quite clear, "They disparaged the MEDIA for giving McNabb more credit than he deserved AT THAT POINT IN HIS CAREER solely because he was black." Rush didn't direct a "racist comment" at the media or anyone else, he was commenting on political correctness.

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So, I DEBUNKED that stupid argument by bringing up a very racist comment to a 3rd person and asked whether THOSE racist comments were cool, too because they weren't directed at the person. It sailed by you TWICE.

No, I still get your point quite clear. Mine is he never said anything remotely as inflammatory as you portrayed it - regardless of your point. You took it to a whole other level, you exaggerated wildly, you purposely tried to make it seem far worse than it was, and that's the spin.

FYI, Tony Dungy weighed in and he was of course a voice of reason, "I don't like it when people say, 'Because of this, he shouldn't be allowed to do that ... because of the way this guy looks, because of the way he sounds, because of his political bent, that he shouldn't allowed to own a team.' And that's something that the 28 owners should decide and not the general public."

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Elliot:

So, if I said to tom, that nigger sucks, that wouldn't be racist because I addressed tom and not the black guy????? You guys are really, really bonkers....

You too, are as racist as the limp one is, as evidenced by your comment. So, I guess "it takes one to know one" doesn't work here.

excon

That's not what I said. You obviously have lost your ability to READ as well as think.

Rush never said anything remotely like what you posted. He never called McNabb the N-word. He never said that McNabb wasn't a good player. What he said was that McNabb hadn't earned his spurs in the NFL yet, and that all the accolaids he was receiving from the media were UNDESERVED, and that he was receiving them solely because he was black.

Seems to me that YOU are the racist for using the N-word. Even if you were using that racist word to criticize racism where you claim to see it.

In fact... you are about as racist as Rush Limbaugh is.

Rush said that the MEDIA was being racist, stated where they were being racits, and got called a racist for it. You are criticizing me as a racist... and even used the N-word.

How does it feel to be called a racist for criticizing the racism of others?

You and Rush are the same...

Sux being you doesn't it.

Elliot

With the damage already done, Huffpo retracted the false quotes used in the Rush witch hunt.

Rick Sanchez of CNN gave a half-a$$ed apology on Twitter. Did he mean it or did he just not want Rush reminding people of his little DUI incident that resulted in the death of a pedestrian any more?

Lastly, in February of last year Gary Kamiya told us it was OK for whites to vote for Obama because he's black. I'm sure it was just as OK for mainstream white media types to want McNabb to succeed because he's black... it just wasn't OK for anyone to say so.

I hope you Rush haters out there are patting yourselves on the back today, I just really, really hope George Soros is part of the Checketts group. Can't wait to see the how THAT test turns out.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I get your point and it's wrong. He never said anything remotely close to that.

Hello again, Steve:

NO, you don't. And, I'm tired of the deflection, and the spin. It was said above that certain comments couldn't be racist because they weren't directed at the person being discussed. They were directed at the media...

So, the point of the poster is, I think it was Elliot, apparently one can say racist things ABOUT someone and it ISN'T racist, but it IS racist when it's directed AT the person...

So, I DEBUNKED that stupid argument by bringing up a very racist comment to a 3rd person and asked whether THOSE racist comments were cool, too because they weren't directed at the person. It sailed by you TWICE.

Want to try for a third time?

excon

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

That's not what I said. You obviously have lost your ability to READ as well as think.

Rush never said anything remotely like what you posted. He never called McNabb the N-word.

Hello again, El:

My post appeared right above yours... And, I'M the one who can't read??

Oy vey!

excon

Sorry, but I can't let my last post disappear that easily at the end of the previous page. I'd sure like some comment on the retractions coming out now.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Sorry, but I can't let my last post disappear that easily at the end of the previous page. I'd sure like some comment on the retractions coming out now.

Hello again, Steve:

You aren't talking to me, cause I never denied it was a witch hunt. It was, and it was wonderful.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

You aren't talking to me, cause I never denied it was a witch hunt. It was, and it was wonderful.

Ah, so you ARE a fan of witch hunts, that's good to know. In that case... Obama is toast.

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Ah, so you ARE a fan of witch hunts, that's good to know.

Hello again, Steve:

I am a fan of witch hunts, when the victim happens to be the biggest witch hunter of all. THAT's what I find so delicious.

But, as long we we're recriminating... How come you didn't comment on my observation that if the drugster has such a good handle on the political culture, how come he didn't anticipate the firestorm about this bid?? Unless he's totally oblivious, he's got to have known that it would engender the kind of response it has...

But, he apparently didn't. What's up with that?

excon

What he didn't know was the charge would be led by those citing phony fabricated quotations.

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what he didn't know was the charge would be led by those citing phony fabricated quotations.

Hello again, tom:

So, the fabricator in chief was surprised that people would fabricate about him?? Dude! And, you STILL think he has his hand on the pulse of America?? Sara Palin has a better feel about America, than the limp one does.

excon

You still haven't been able to cite something that Rush "fabricated".

Or a comment that he made that was racist.

Even those who screwed him over are admitting that they made it all up.

But YOU are still harping on the fact that RUSH is a racist and a liar.

And you think that RUSH is the one who has no contact with reality...

Elliot

Turns out that NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith served as counsel to AG Eric Holder and was a member of Obama's transition team.
Smith of course was very outspoken against the bid to purchase the Rams by Rush .

Word to Smith . The NFL CBA is coming up soon and what he should be worrying about is a lockout by the owners... and not who the owners are. Liberal owners will also lock you out. I'm sure the players he represents are more concerned with green $$$$ than black and white.

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

But YOU are still harping on the fact that RUSH is a racist and a liar.

Hello again, Elliot:

I am, and I'm loving every minute of it.

excon