Ask Me Help Desk - Levi's revelation

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Perhaps if the major media was attacking his daughters like the bloggers were then President Bush would not have been so thin skinned.

Who cares about bloggers? Seriously! They don't get exposure. You have to Google the terms you want to find or have your right-wing websites push them to you as today's talking points. There are just as many if not more right-wing crazy calling for killings and assassinations, why don't you call them out too?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I will agree with your assessment if she lives out her career out of the spotlight. Do you think that's what's happening?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

My assessment has nothing to do with whether or not you have the integrity to acknowledge you were wrong about the Palins being the "makers of their own news."

You blew right by the question like I knew you would. :rolleyes:

As usual you cherry picked my comment to disregard the subject .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

You see ;it is the open season on the Palin kids that has been to date the exception rather than the rule. There was a time when public servants children were out of bounds.

Hello again, tom:

If you looked here: Conservative Free Republic blog in free speech flap after racial slurs directed at Obama children, I think you'll find some pretty vile stuff about Malia Obama.

excon

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Still, would you continue to subject your family to the crap she endured?

Hello again, Steve:

Yes. Privacy is one of the things one gives up for public service. If I went into the kitchen, I wouldn't be surprised by the heat. Could I take it? You betcha!

excon

HELLO!!

I was not talking about what the bloggers were saying... I said IF the press were going after Bush's daughters like the bloggers did then he would not have been so thick skinned.

Let me make it clear . The press went after her children like they were bloggers . Capiche ?

I believe it was Elliot who outlined a likely reason for Palin stepping down from the governership.

How about this?

How many small businesses can absorb half million dollar legal expenses?

The left has no conscience, no core values, and no integrity. They have determined to destroy Palin. Why is another discussion.

If they can't find a skeleton, they will manufacture one. If that doesn't work, then they will attempt to destroy her financially, and on this battlefield, they have all the big artillery and she has a pea shooter by comparison.

By comparison, Obama got the velvet glove treatment.

Open minded people see all this and understand.

Do you?

And to the OP, she may indeed be planning to build a war chest. Wouldn't that be grand.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

He even said that himself -- refused to listen to anyone other than trusted lackeys.

Quote please?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You blew right by the question like I knew you would. :rolleyes:

I threw you a challenge 17 posts ago that remains unanswered, leaving you no room to talk.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I threw you a challenge 17 posts ago that remains unanswered, leaving you no room to talk.

I'll answer yours.
- "a public figure called for her rape": no attribution, rumour
- "personal email hacked" : No one should hack into anyone's account. She used Yahoo mail for gov business! She's a public figure, why use insecure email??
- "the trig conspiracy" : rumours start when the truth isn't revealed. They are no different than the Obama rumours I mentioned attacking his family roots and their love for their country.

Now your turn.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

She used Yahoo mail for gov business! She's a public figure, why use insecure email?????

That's UNSECURE, not insecure. Insecure is what YOU are.

Elliot

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I'll answer yours...

Now your turn.

You never learn do you?

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- "a public figure called for her rape": no attribution, rumour

Sandra Bernhard issues 'gang rape' warning to Sarah Palin

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- "personal email hacked" : No one should hack into anyone's account. She used Yahoo mail for gov business! She's a public figure, why use insecure email?????

"Several self-proclaimed members of Anonymous, a loosely organized group associated with the message board 4Chan, apparently breached the Alaska governor's personal Yahoo! Account ([email protected]) late Tuesday night."

It doesn't matter what she used it for, it was an illegal attack and she had done nothing to deserve that.

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- "the trig conspiracy" : rumours start when the truth isn't revealed.

A pregnant governor is hiding what exactly?

http://bcclist.files.wordpress.com/2...pg?w=510&h=382

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They are no different than the Obama rumours I mentioned attacking his family roots and their love for their country.

Um, witnesses to the pregnancy and an actual child not enough evidence to destroy the rumors? Are you saying it's possible that Bristol Palin gave birth to Trig on April 18th and then turned right around and gave birth to Tripp in December? You're either extremely gullible or don't have the integrity to admit the truth. Which is it?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Are you saying it's possible that Bristol Palin gave birth to Trig on April 18th and then turned right around and gave birth to Tripp in December? You're either extremely gullible or don't have the integrity to admit the truth. Which is it?

It's more likely that an older woman like Sarah would have a Down's baby, rather than a teenage whose child could have problems, but less likely Down's as one of them.

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Here's my take on what Palin is planning:

She is going to spend the next 6-12 months on the talking circuit. This will give her a certain amount of wealth and will keep her in the political spotlight in the appropriate circles.

She will then run for the Alaskan Senate Seat that is up for grabs in 2010. After she wins that seat (and she will), she will be appointed to at least one foreign policy committee. One of the biggest complaints about her in the media was her lack of foreign policy experience. A seat on a foreign policy committee will cure that lack.

She will then consider her options. If she has the support and the money, she'll make a run for the presidency in 2012. If not, she'll wait it out and make a run in 2016.

Either way, giving up the governorship now puts her in a position to run for the senate seat. It's actually a brilliant move. She will come to any run for the Presidency with a resume that is stronger than Obama's. She will have Gubenatorial and Mayoral (executive) experience, Senate experience (which will be equal to or more than the amount that Obama had during his run for the Presidency), she will have speechmaking experience (which will polish her already strong speaking skills), she will have a history as a budget cutter, and she will have experience having sat on the hot seat already.

By that time, given the direction things are going right now, Obama's popularity and that of the Democrats will be in the crapper. Dems will be seen as the tax and spenders they are, Obama will be blamed for the massive budget deficits we haven't seen yet, the increasing unemployment rates, nationalization of private industry, etc. Dems will not be able to defend against these charges because they will clearly have been the cause of these things.

Conservatives and Republicans, being on the outside right now, and lacking control of any part of the government right now, will be able to rightfully deny being a part of it. The right will become ascendent again. And Palin will be perfectly positioned for a run for the Presidency.

That is my prediction.

All of you fools who argue that Palin is "running away" or is "a quitter" are in for the shock of your lives. She's not running away from anything. She's going to go head to head with the media and the political powers that be on HER TERMS. She's following Sun Tzu and Musashi... she's choosing her own ground on which to fight. And none of you even see it coming.

Elliot

Art of War - great read :)

Good points, why stay in a position where she cannot do much? Not in the lower 48. Bogged down by legal attacks in her state.

People should remember that she was a point guard [ the leader ] of a cinderalla team that won the state championship.

A good point guard realizes what plays will work what won't and will adjust accordingly. The great ones can see a play before it happens.

G&P

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You're either extremely gullible or don't have the integrity to admit the truth. Which is it?

You disgust me when you make statements like this to people here.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You disgust me when you make statements like this to people here.

NK, we could talk about disgusting things you do as well, or you could acknowledge the unfairness of many of the attacks on Palin as I have to those on Obama that you raised instead of talking around it. Or we can come to our own conclusions...

Since you never answered my question I have to assume that you can't.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Since you never answered my question I have to assume that you can't.

Your question was answered before you asked it when I told you that Palin is going on the offensive and linked to her column on cap and trade. It's obvious she isn't planning on living her career out of the spotlight.

I answered your first challenge in repudiating the unwarranted attacks on Obama that you listed.

Since you still can't acknowledge the facts I have to assume I was correct in my assessment.

You know NK, the first thing you should do when you're stuck in a hole is stop digging... but don't take my advice.

Weird, first you state that one of the reasons she's quiting is to protect her children from all the crap and now you tell me she's going on the offensive politically which means she's putting herself square in the spotlight again. So which is it? She's stepping away from the spotlight to protect her children or she doesn't really care about that because she's more interested in her politics?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Weird, first you state that one of the reasons she's quiting is to protect her children from all the crap and now you tell me she's going on the offensive politically which means she's putting herself square in the spotlight again. So which is it? She's stepping away from the spotlight to protect her children or she doesn't really care about that because she's more interested in her politics?

NK, keep digging, you're just reinforcing my assessment. You apparently didn't read what I said, "If it were me I would protect my family from such bullsh*t, too, even if it meant being called a quitter." Anyway, my opinion has NOTHING to do with you having the integrity to admit you were wrong about the attacks on her. Her being in or out of the spotlight has NOTHING to do with you being wrong about the attacks on her. Though her stepping down as governor DOES give her protections from further baseless investigations and DOES give her options on keeping the rest of her family out of the target zone.

You just can't admit you were wrong can you?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Though her stepping down as governor DOES give her protections from further baseless investigations and DOES give her options on keeping the rest of her family out of the target zone.

But she's getting right back into the target zone. She's set up a fund to do so: PalinPAC.org

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

But she's getting right back into the target zone. She's set up a fund to do so: PalinPAC.org

The only thing relevant in this particular discussion with you is I have the integrity to defend Obama against damn lies and other completely unfair attacks and you refuse to do the same for Sarah Palin. Just keep digging that hole.

So I guess it's not about the kids then.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The only thing relevant in this particular discussion with you is I have the integrity to defend Obama against damn lies ...

All you do here is start threads about what a bad guy he is: Ask Me Help Desk - Search Results That ALL you do here!

Nice integrity you have.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So I guess it's not about the kids then.

So you can't admit you were wrong.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

All you do here is start threads about what a bad guy he is: Ask Me Help Desk - Search Results That ALL you do here!

Nice integrity you have.

NK, I hate to tell you but anyone who clicks your link can see it. Just keep digging that hole, lol.