When was the last time again that a chosen VP candidate had to replaced ?
May this year again ? If I'm not mistaken it was the same party...
:D ;) :p :rolleyes: :D
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When was the last time again that a chosen VP candidate had to replaced ?
May this year again ? If I'm not mistaken it was the same party...
:D ;) :p :rolleyes: :D
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1972 when candidate George McGovern had to replace Thomas Eagleton with Kennedy clan member Sergeant Shriver .
After that Nixon replaced sitting VP Spiro Agnew with Gerald Ford. Agnew got caught up in Maryland politics where bribes were involved while he was the Governor there . He plead no contest to criminal charges of tax evasion and money laundering . But Nixon wanted to replace him before then and would've if John Connally (a Democrat ) had accepted the offer.
Before that as I mentioned on another posting ,John C Calhoun resigned because the job did not have influence and power then.
Edit :
Eagleton was forced to leave the McGovern team after it was revealed that he had received shock treatment for various symptoms of mental and physical fatigue . He had evidently not revealed the treatments to McGovern ,or if he did ,McGovern did not think it sufficiently important to dump Eagleton. McGovern initially proclaimed he supported Eagleton 1000% .The public seemed to agree .77 percent of the respondents in a Time poll said "Eagleton's medical record would not affect their vote."
But the media pressure forced him to make the switch. MSM slimeball Jack Anderson wrote a vile false report that he had been arrested for drunk driving .A charge that Anderson later retracted after the damage was done.
I do no know if it was warranted but McGovern's dumping him was not a sign of strength .
Eagleton returned to the US Senate and served another 2 terms.
This video is interesting (CNN):
Rarely have I ever heard so many words used to say so little.
Campell Brown gave Tucker Bound nowhere to swim. Republican apologists are drowning and this is a reoccurring pattern ever since Sarah Palin became the pick. Greta Van Susteren on the Fox network backed Lynn Swann (Republican ex-pro athlete now politician) into a corner so bad last night that she starting laughing at him, and he even smiled knowing his goose was cooked.
Funny that the FOX network would have a show that isn't a mouthpiece for the Republicans eh ? Fox is biased and doesn't allow a slant on their network that isn't a Republican talking point... right ?
Swan will run for Guv. In PA. again and win next time .That is unless the goons working for Chucky Schumer don't dumpster dive looking for his SS# like they did to Michael Steele.
That's a really large assumption, Bobby. I suppose the Palins should have had a ball and chain around Bristol's leg and fitted her with a chastity belt instead of having some kind of trust and faith in their daughter who is almost old enough to vote. Then you'd just complain that the Palins were way too overbearing and they should trust their daughter to make good decisions. Nice box you've put them in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABRAM
LOL, so now women aren't able to multitask and function in a man's world, they should just stay home where they belong? You guys have just set the women's movement back 50 years. But then, some of us have know all along it was never about empowering women, it was about empowering liberal women. If you aren't like Susan Reimer or Maureen Dowd you should go back to being a hockey mom and cooking and cleaning and waiting on your husband.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABRAM
Yup barefoot in the kitchen that's where Dems want their women and as I stated on the other posting ;if they have 5 children they should be looking for a government handout.
Spoken out of true ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Just my observation at their reaction to a successful working mom. Or is there a double standard and only liberal women have the choice ?
Hello fellows who used to think experience counted, but now don't:
I think she's a fine example of a working mom. I think she's great. She just isn't qualified to be commander in chief.
You certainly can't make the argument that she is, when you kept saying Obama isn't. Or, maybe you can. After all, she DID live near Russia. There you go.
excon
Ask any working mother how difficult it is to be mother and working and wife.
That alone would make most women more quaified to be president than most men. :p
Really, would we, the media etc. be asking these questions if she were male?
The Palin's have 5 children : good for them. A generation or 2 ago this was not unusual.
If your Judeo - Christian, you know children are a blessing. :)
As to Bristol being pregnant at 17, that is her family's business. Obama has enough class to say that was off limits. :)
I know that my adopted son was born to a 19yo mother who was not married at the time. Again, a blessing. :D
All you lefties are scared to death of Sarah Palin. I've seen several presidential campaigns, and NEVER has there been so much interest in the vp of any party. All left wing guns are aimed at Palin, even stooping to attacking her daughter! What a bunch of creeps! That's going to backfire, you know.
Of course experience counts. How much executive experience does Obama or Biden have? The correct answer is NONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
How much foreign policy experience does Obama have? NONE.
Maybe the Dems would be better off to reverse their ticket. It still wouldn't be good, but every little bit helps, right?
Ex,
I've never been against new blood, but I'd prefer someone that's actually accomplished something in the 2nd spot over someone that's accomplished nothing more than creating an image in the top spot.
Can we just write in "none of the above" and start over?
No need - you can pick this guy: Welcome | Bob Barr for President of the United StatesQuote:
Originally Posted by Emland
Only if you want to help Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by jillianleab
Hello Gal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Galveston1
Then we agree. She isn't qualified. Of course, McCain has none either. All right, then. Our choice is between four people not qualified to be president... Ain't it just grand?
excon
If you are going to quote me and then comment on my post, please be kind and use the full quote. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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Originally Posted by tomder55
:eek: Wow! Tom! Congrats! I'm not going to even touch that. That was an open mouth and insert foot moment. You better hope Democrat voting hard working moms are not paying attention to this post. You're a brave man. Good luck. :D
If I were the repubs strategists I wouldn't let Tucker boy near a camera again. Problem was he actually believed the BS he was spinning. Hahaha! They've really made a rod for their back with this choice haven't they!!
What I am so upset about is those who attack her for being a mother and saying she should be at home. Where is the women's right groups, where is NOW and some of the others jumping to her rescue because of this attack on her being a working mother.
Chuck, I've learned that according to Tom that they're in the kitchen barefoot considering that fifth child and looking for government handouts. You better hope Democrat voting hard working moms are not paying attention to this post. Good luck to you "padre."
When Sarah Palin claims to be a Christian conservative and preaches abstinence-only as birth control, her unwed pregnant teen daughter makes Mom's beliefs look a little suspicious and leaves her wide open to comment and criticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthebox
If I had five kids, one an infant with Down's syndrome, you can bet I would be at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
I thought Pappy Palin was home with the kids? Usually one adult is all that's considered necessary -- no matter how many kids.
Didn't Mr. Palin quit his oil co. job when it presented a conflict of interest with Palin's job as governor?
If she can't convince / persuade her 17 year old daughter to fall in line with her beliefs then how is anyone else expected to take her seriously. C'mon...
The inexperience issue has just been completely taken out of the election.
Joe Biden said his toughest decision was continuing his public career or raising his kids after his wife and a child died in a car accident . His choice was to do both. Why is it not Palins right to make a similar choice? I thought that is what the women's movement was all about ;the right for women to make a choice.Quote:
If I had five kids, one an infant with Down's syndrome, you can bet I would be at home.
You better hope that the Democrat voting hard working moms are not paying attention to the cr*p coming from the MSM and the lib bloggers.Quote:
You better hope Democrat voting hard working moms are not paying attention to this post.
Spot on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Or in other words : Sarah Palin: Only five abortions away from the presidency.
If that's what you believe then that's pretty twisted.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Another Spot on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
90% of women who learn their baby has Downs syndrome abort their child. What is being said here is because she chose to have the baby then she should be a stay at home mom.... or am I missing something ?
Joe Biden got ovations when he spoke of his sacrifices in raising his children while still persuing a public career (he still commutes daily from Delaware to Washington) .But Palin is faulted here ;in the press and the liberal blogsphere for doing the very same thing .
I am the mother of a child with special needs. He is Mentally Retarded and Developmentally Delayed (MR/DD) and I have worked outside the home before he was born and went back to work shortly after I delivered. Am I a bad mother because I had to work to keep the bills paid or is she a bad mother because she chose to work in politics? Do you remember Hillary's reaction when it was suggested she should be a stay at home wife/mother?
As cred says... spot on!!
It's her right to work outside the home and attepmt a work/family balance, and really, I applaud her for it. It's a tough decision to make. But that doesn't mean everyone will agree with her decision - especially the social conservatives. Many people feel a woman's place is in the home with the children, especially when one has special needs and one is unwed and pregnant. My local news station interviewed several women the day she was announced as the VP and all of them said two things;
1. I won't vote for her because she's a woman - she's not a substitute for Hilary (or, if they didn't support Hilary to begin with; Who's going to vote for her if they were supporting Hilary? Their policies are different.)
2. It's tough to balance work and family, she should be at home with her children where she's needed.
Is it an antiquated POV, sure. But there are plenty of people out there who think she's making a mistake by not being with her children.
And yes, her daughter being pregnant is family business, but it speaks volumes that she was unable to impose her morals and values on to her own family. Yes, her daughter didn't abort, but she wouldn't be pregnant to begin with if she had her mother's values. Obama doesn't have to say anything about it - it says enough on its own and he looks like the golden boy by saying it's a "family issue".
Ultimately if you give a solid foundation for the children ,you hope and pray for the best. It is not an indictment on the parents necessarily when a child strays and I for one would not impose that "guilt " on parents out of hand.
But had the child been educated that there were other birth control options then a pregnancy may not have happened.
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