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  • Feb 6, 2022, 03:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Books have been banned
    Please be specific.

    If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.

    There is no porn in the Bible.

    I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids. My grandchild is 15 months old.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 03:28 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.

    "The clear design of nature" went topsy-turvy in Genesis 3, and unlimited possibilities began.
    Quote:

    There is no porn in the Bible.
    Read the Bible.
    Quote:

    I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids.
    Please give a summary.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 03:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Please be specific.
    If you can't be specific, then you really should abandon the argument.

    Your assessment of Genesis 3 has no support in the Bible unless you are prepared to say that those possibilities are sin.

    Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.

    I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 03:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.

    Here's one instance:

    Genesis 19. Drunken Lot and his two daughters in a cave.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.

    Silly and pointless because it never happened.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 03:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

    You need to read a definition of what porn is.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 04:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

    You need to read a definition of what porn is.

    Reading erotic fiction and non-fiction et al. causes the creation of pictures in one's head thus, Sunday School and Bible class teachers avoid this story (and others).
  • Feb 6, 2022, 04:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    I guess you think the story of Lot and his daughters is erotic. Pretty sure the average person does not since they regard a man getting his own daughters pregnant to be sickening. I've never seen anyone avoid this story. The lesson is very valuable.

    We have reached our usual impasse. I wish you the best in your life and the hubster as well. God bless your family.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 07:13 PM
    tomder55
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    To Kill a Mockingbird: Challenged at the Moss Point, Miss. School District (1996) because the novel contains a racial epithet. Banned from the Lindale,Tex. advanced placement English reading list (1996) because the book "conflicted with the values of the community." Challenged by a Glynn County, Ga. (2001) school board member because of profanity. The novel was retained. Returned to the freshman reading list at Muskogee, Okla. High School (2001) despite complaints over the years from black students and parents about racial slurs in the text. Challenged in the Normal, ILL Community High Schools sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans. Challenged at the Stanford Middle School in Durham, N.C. (2004) because the 1961 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel uses the word "nigger."
    Source: 2004 Banned Books Resource Guide

    I linked to the most recent banning of Mockingbird which was within the month . It was a district in Seattle . It had nothing to do with the stereotype of what the south was in 1996 .
  • Feb 6, 2022, 07:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Yep, tomder. I posted all that in #38.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 07:39 PM
    tomder55
    you reference 2004 banned books list . I was referencing the banning of Mockingbird by a liberal district in this school year .

    Mukilteo School District removes ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ from required reading list | The Seattle Times

    Banned and challenged for racial slurs and their negative effect on students, featuring a “white savior” character, and its perception of the Black experience.
  • Feb 6, 2022, 07:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    There is a vast difference between removing a book from a required reading list versus “banning” it.
  • Feb 7, 2022, 10:08 AM
    tomder55
    Truck Freedom convoy going international

    Worldwide Movement: Massive Freedom Convoy Formed in Helsinki, Finland - [your]NEWS (yournews.com)

    Protests highlight Finnish frustrations at ongoing COVID restrictions | Euronews


    Canada’s ‘Freedom Convoy’ inspires protests abroad | The Star

    Police Go After Australians Protesting for Medical Freedom – PJ Media
  • Feb 7, 2022, 02:45 PM
    jlisenbe
    Amazing how my view of the Aussies has changed over the past couple of years.
  • Feb 8, 2022, 07:29 PM
    tomder55
    Alberta is the 1st province to cave .

    COVID-19 Live Updates: News on coronavirus in Calgary for Feb. 8 | Calgary Herald
  • Feb 8, 2022, 08:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Fantastic. It's time to move on.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 08:00 AM
    tomder55
    convoy freedom israel trucks are coming in - YouTube

    France: Police fire tear gas to stop ‘Freedom Convoy’ in Paris - YouTube

    New Zealand police arrest Covid trucker protesters as Canada 'freedom convoy' spreads (nbcnews.com)

    ‘Freedom Convoy’ Rally in Belgium’s La Louviere Before Hitting Road to Brussels - YouTube

    COVID-19: Thousands in Austria protest mandatory vaccines, restrictions - YouTube
  • Feb 18, 2022, 07:39 PM
    tomder55
    demonstrators trampled by Canadian mounted police .

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL6tHBaX...jpg&name=small

    The Vigilant Fox 🦊 on Twitter: "Ottawa Police Horses Trample Protestors Increasing Tensions Between Protestors and Police Credit: https://t.co/54dcfpPRvY https://t.co/yAbVsAQcsn" / Twitter
  • Feb 18, 2022, 08:03 PM
    tomder55
    Trudeau's Deputy and Finance Minister , Chrystia Freeland, is also a director of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum which is best known as the entity behind all those rick people's meetings at Davos ,

    She says she plans to make Canada's emergency powers permanent.



    not inklessPW �� on Twitter: "Just now Chrystia Freeland details how some Emergency Act powers will be made permanent. (we actually thought she might wait a few days before enacting a permanent police state) https://t.co/HavsTUeo0P" / Twitter
  • Feb 19, 2022, 07:05 AM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...pg&oe=62154EB3
  • Feb 20, 2022, 04:54 AM
    tomder55
    This is how the Mounties flatten the curve
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL6tHBaX...jpg&name=small

    Image shows 2 people trampled One is a man in a brown coat. The other is an elderly woman in a red coat and a walker . video footage here
    Daniel James Dulhunty on Twitter: "Another camera angle of the incident shows the elderly woman trampled by police horse in Ottawa. https://t.co/xrK4s5JHoX" / Twitter

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