We are rehashing the same ground. You approve of abortion and I don’t. Beyond that there is nothing new to say.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

We are rehashing the same ground. You approve of abortion and I don’t. Beyond that there is nothing new to say.

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I approve of CHOICE. What is chosen is not in my purview.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You approve of abortion and I don’t. Beyond that there is nothing new to say.

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Correction. You approve of abortion when it suits you to approve of abortion.

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I have already said three dozen times that saving one life is preferable to losing both lives.

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And that makes you pro-choice, pro-abortion.

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Originally Posted by wondergirl

and that makes you pro-choice, pro-abortion.

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bingo!!

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And that makes you pro-choice, pro-abortion.

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In the mind of a non-thinker, yes. For everyone else, including most sixth graders I'm sure, it is simple to understand that approving of saving one life rather than losing both lives is very much pro-life. But if it makes one who wants to preserve the status quo of nearly a million lost human lives every year happy, then be happy. Self delusion tends to do that.

At least the issue is settled. I want our current murderous system changed. You want it to continue. If you really think that makes you "against abortion", then continue to believe it. I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.

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I have already said three dozen times that saving one life is preferable to losing both lives.

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And which one will lose life? By what means?

In your plan? The nearly one million unborn babies who continue to die by every grizzly means conceivable. You approve of them all. You wouldn’t change a thing. And yet you want to copy the non thinking approach of your hero and mentor. Is good sleep worth the loss of honor and integrity?

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In your plan?

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No, in yours.

My plan to for legal prepuberty reversible vasectomies. And removal of the penis in the cases of rape, incest, fathering a child when the couple is not in a stable marriage, etc.

It has been explained repeatedly. What aspect did you not understand?

Give an example of a woman who must have an abortion to preserve her life.

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It has been explained repeatedly. What aspect did you not understand?

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The 4-month pregnancy is killing the mother. Then what? OR, the 8-month pregnancy is killing the mother. Then what? OR, tests have shown the fetus has no functioning brain. Now what?

I had added: My plan to for legal prepuberty reversible vasectomies. And removal of the penis in the cases of rape, incest, fathering a child when the couple is not in a stable marriage, etc.

No, a specific example. What medical condition?

8 months, by the way, is simple. Deliver a live child. In your eagerness to promote abortion, did you forget that?

No functioning brain? Deliver a child which will live a brief time and tragically die

How about a child which is perfectly normal and viable. Should abortion be legal then?

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Give an example of a woman who must have an abortion to preserve her life.

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Conditions that might lead to ending a pregnancy to save a woman's life include severe infections, heart failure and severe cases of preeclampsia, a condition in which a woman develops very high blood pressure and is at risk for stroke, says Erika Levi, a obstetrician and gynecologist at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

"There are certain cases where ending the pregnancy is the only option, cases where it would be putting the mother's life at risk to continue the pregnancy," she says.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...walsh/1644839/

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8 months, by the way, is simple. Deliver a live child. In your eagerness to promote abortion, did you forget that?

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A live child with no brain. And Mom dies of a stroke.

Children with no brains don’t live. But you could always kill the child after it’s born. Would that make you feel better?

As to your specific examples, they are fantastically rare, but as I have said a dozen times, it is better to lose only one life than to lose two.

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Children with no brains don’t live.

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It's called hydraencephaly.

Hydranencephaly is a rare condition in which the brain's cerebral hemispheres are absent and replaced by sacs filled with cerebrospinal fluid. An infant with hydranencephaly may appear normal at birth. The infant's head size and spontaneous reflexes such as sucking, swallowing, crying, and moving the arms and legs may all seem normal.
https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/...formation-Page

Then like I said, if it bothers you so much to let them live, then kill the child after it’s born. Would that suit you?

How about a six year old who loses all brain function in a car accident? Kill that one as well?

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Then like I said, if it bothers you so much to let them live, then kill the child after it’s born. Would that suit you?

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Time to put you on the naughty chair. You're not paying attention.

At what point does this killing end?

Smoke screen time.

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At what point does this killing end?

Smoke screen time.

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Why are you so obsessed with killing and death? It's not your call, not your decision. Should I have checked with you before I had a c-section?

Why are you so uncaring about the deaths of nearly a million unborn children a year? Of the two of us, only one is interested in seeing the dying stop. Hint...it's not you. You are perfectly at ease with it which is really amazing to me. It's sad that in days past, it was the women who took stands for the life and welfare of children. Now they lead the abortion parade.