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No state is prepared as they should be for a pandemic. That's a given, so the question becomes what should we do now that we have one? Nobody seems to care about what the dufus did 12 years ago, so why are we wasting time judging Cuomo? That's a distraction to the real problems of sourcing hospitals NOW!
Where in the world do you get these ideas? I think you pull them out of your arse when the truth fails you. For the record, I am not a "Bolshevik", a Republican or a Democrat. I'm an Independent, sometimes for the Repubs, other times for the Dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As to how Trump is handling the crisis, he's a disaster. He has no idea how to manage an emergency. Even worse, he's too narcissistic to listen to any expert who may have the requisite skills.
It's not rocket science. Create a central marshaling point, get the info from those in need, and distribute the goods as and where needed. This is after you have organized the manufacturing process to produce what is needed.
What you DON'T do is leave everyone to do whatever they want and hope that the market forces will deliver the goods. Thank God someone like Trump wasn't at Normandy. Wartime president!! What a joke!!
The dufus said the government isn't a delivery service and with that attitude you know you're on your own. Go buy that Easter bonnet and pray for the fools who listens to him, like that poor deluded couple in Arizona. You need more proof NOT to listen to the lying cheating incompetent dufus?
A hard head makes a soft arse!
they are the product of a nanny state that tells people how and when to wipe their A$$ and how much tp to use while doing it . They are like the kids who think Tide pods are safe to eat .Quote:
like that poor deluded couple in Arizona
Athos lol I did not call you Bolshevik I called Sanders that . But if you think nationalization is a solution then maybe you are
Why do you give the states a pass but not the feds? How could anyone have anticipated this type of pandemic?Quote:
No state is prepared as they should be for a pandemic. That's a given,
Seeing as how the wife said it was the dufus who planted the seed that nanny state stuff is just so much rhetoric, and even if you cannot blame the dufus, you still must take everything he says and does with great skepticism, and thankfully even repubs do.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
No worries though Tom, I recognize your rugged individualistic character, even though you are a conservative capitalist. Not necessarily in that order, and I get as riled when my nest egg gets disrupted too. Or when I ain't got nuthin' to wipe my arse with. Down to my last roll between just the two of us. Ain't gonna make it till Easter!
Show us where the pres told people to eat fish tank chems and that might be a valid point. Otherwise it is totally stupid and just more TDS.Quote:
the wife said it was the dufus who planted the seed
I give no one a pass, but that's the feds job is to insure the welfare of it's citizens no matter what the debt is. If the feds cannot help the states, who are people American citizens, then they should be replaced starting at the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I don't blame the dufus, the fed, or the states, for being unprepared, but I damn sure can beetch about how the situation is dealt with and right now don't get me started on the Texas governor.
https://abc13.com/6048933/
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...esponse-136061
well keep on running around like chicken little scaring the sheeple. You'll never replenish because when it becomes available the scared people who have nothing better to do than store hop will buy it all up . Me I have essential work to do .
BTW ; here is how il Duce took care of his state . 2015 it became apparent that NY did not have a sufficient supply of ventilators . WE were 16,000 short of what was deemed necessary to handle a pandemic . Health commissioner, Howard Zucker, assembled a task force for rationing the ventilators they already had. Here were the numbers at $36,000 apiece,the state would need to invest a total of $576 million to replenish up to standard . Now they are not available to purchase at any price. Cuomo and NY STATE could've made the call to make the purchase . But as is the wont of blue state guvs . They know that if they scream loud enough and blame shift they can pass the buck to the federal government . You don't see a pattern yet ? They are never prepared
As far as quinine based drugs ;they have been used for years to treat malaria . They are safe and effective if prescribed by your doctor who knows your medical history . Neither Trump nor anyone else told the couple to down some fish bowl cleaner .
Sure you did. Here's your quote. "No state is prepared as they should be for a pandemic. That's a given."Quote:
I give no one a pass,
But not the states'? See what I mean about giving passes?Quote:
but that's the feds job is to insure the welfare of it's citizens
Perfectly example of why we are sinking in a sea of debt. No one would ever have said such an irresponsible statement forty years ago. Now it is the common way of seeing the world. Our poor grandchildren will pay dearly for this.Quote:
no matter what the debt is.
It's a bit late to play woulda, shoulda, coulda, and my grandkids and kids know they are on their own and can think for themselves, and may well have to help out and clean up my mess. Maybe our generation will start cleaning up it's own mess before we leave it to the next generation. Watched my elders take care of their elders, and my kids watched me take care of mine. They know the drill. My kids and grand kids are more than capable of dealing with whatever life throws at them. Hope yours are too.
Nobody's perfect though.
Dear God what a cavalier attitude. I'm so glad my parents did not look at me that way. Instead of hindering me, they helped me. That should be our attitude towards our children and grandchildren. It's on the level of cutting off one of their arms and then saying, "Hey. You can handle that. After all, you're more than capable of dealing with whatever life (a.k.a. your grandfather) throws at you."Quote:
my grandkids and kids know they are on their own and can think for themselves, and may well have to help out and clean up my mess. Maybe our generation will start cleaning up it's own mess before we leave it to the next generation. Watched my elders take care of their elders, and my kids watched me take care of mine. They know the drill. My kids and grand kids are more than capable of dealing with whatever life throws at them. Hope yours are too.
LOL, that's your spin and inane as your logic. My kids need the truth to be prepared for anything, and endure and persevere. That's what I got, that's what they get. I will thank you respectfully if you stay out of my families business. I stay well away from yours so return the favor. PLEASE!
That's nothing but garbage. You kick your grandkids in the rear end and then tell them to be prepared for anything and endure? What an attitude. Like I said, I'm so glad my parents did not approach life that way.Quote:
My kids need the truth to be prepared for anything, and endure and persevere.
As to leaving your family out of it, you're the one who brought them into the discussion. "..my grandkids and kids know they are on their own and can think for themselves." If you don't want them to be involved in this, then don't bring them up.
The couple saw that fish-tank cleaner contains chloroquine and wow! that's in the malaria drug our dear leader says will work to cure this virus, so let's give it a try!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Which is about as dumb as going out and buying fertilizer to eat because someone said it makes things grow. Like I said earlier, I don't think you took a chem course. What they took was plainly NOT what the pres was referring to.
However, it is nice to see you posting. You take these long breaks sometimes.
I took one in high school and one in college. I'm betting this Phoenix couple never took a chem course.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Close enough, they thought.Quote:
What they took was plainly NOT what the pres was referring to.
I read these threads several times a day to keep up. Tal (and Athos) does a great job saying what I would have -- or wish I would have.Quote:
However, it is nice to see you posting. You take these long breaks sometimes.
They thought wrong. Evidently two people out of over 300 million somehow got the message that ingesting fish tank cleaner would solve their problems, so while tragic, it is sheer lunacy to blame that on Trump.Quote:
Close enough, they thought.
Not me??? Ouch!! Didn't you notice that I was the ONLY ONE to speak positively of your return to the board???Quote:
Tal (and Athos) does a great job saying what I would have
stupid is as stupid doesQuote:
The couple saw that fish-tank cleaner contains chloroquine and wow! that's in the malaria drug our dear leader says will work to cure this virus, so let's give it a try!
I blame that and so much more on his careless speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Please reread what I had said about them -- I very much agree with them (not you so much). But thank you for missing me. Tal, Athos, and I have known each other for years and know we three enjoy reading each others' posts.Quote:
Not me??? Ouch!! Didn't you notice that I was the ONLY ONE to speak positively of your return to the board???
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