Demonstrations are hardly useless when it accomplishes the goal of stopping you. Yes I have watched those donations come in from all over the world, and that's a help to the budgets I know, but that makes my point of somebody has to pay for surviving Mother Nature, since it seems to expensive for even the worlds best economies.

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Demonstrations are hardly useless when it accomplishes the goal of stopping you. Yes I have watched those donations come in from all over the world, and that's a help to the budgets I know, but that makes my point of somebody has to pay for surviving Mother Nature, since it seems to expensive for even the worlds best economies.

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Let us start with the lefties who started the problem in the first place, they should pay the higher taxes they want. You think we should listen to rabid university students who want to demonstrate and shout insults instead of doing something practical to help. Do they stop driving their cars? Drinking their bottled water? Wasting energy travelling to demonstrations? We are being condemned for a northern hemisphere problem. The whole southern hemisphere contributes only a small percentage of so called emissions so even if we achieved 0 emissions immediately it would do nothing to solve this so called crisis.

Wake up, you are being scammed!

Acheiving emission targets Clete, means you have raised efficiency, burn clean, with less waste and save money with developing alternative energy sources. That's no scam that's a benefit. If your neighbors don't do it then they will pay a higher cost for energy, and wear silly looking useless paper masks. It's that simple. What did you think was meant?

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Acheiving emission targets Clete, means you have raised efficiency, burn clean, with less waste and save money with developing alternative energy sources. That's no scam that's a benefit. If your neighbors don't do it then they will pay a higher cost for energy, and wear silly looking useless paper masks. It's that simple. What did you think was meant?

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Nonsense, there are millions of rooftops in this nation and maybe yours, which have solar panels. Is this efficient? These panels will last maybe 20 years and will have to be replaced, "renewable" has a different meaning in this context, so my nation meets its targets by having individuals invest in power generation instead of the more efficient method of a power station with a longer life. the scam lies in convincing the householder that this is a worthwhile investment by using the mirage that their power costs have reduced. All they have done is moved the cost from one provider to another. from the utility company to the financier. the same with wind which is not a reliable source but an intermittent generator. Is it renewable? yes you will be replacing these assets

No different than buying a new car, washing machine, glasses, or any other necessity or luxury. The great news for both our countries is you can chop wood for the fireplace and make your own candles if you want nothing to do with the new fangled stuff and feed your horse organic hay if you choose. Maybe technology will have advanced to better solar panels by then.

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No different than buying a new car, washing machine, glasses, or any other necessity or luxury. The great news for both our countries is you can chop wood for the fireplace and make your own candles if you want nothing to do with the new fangled stuff and feed your horse organic hay if you choose. Maybe technology will have advanced to better solar panels by then.

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The question isn't whether we will have more efficient solar panels, I am an investor in a company which is developing a paint which will convert every building into a generator without the need for bulky panels, this does not overcome the problem of what to do at night or the problem that the not invented here syndrome is very evident.

You and I don't want to go back to the stone age Tal, life is very hard foraging for food

Thank you for your concern, please know that we have had wide spread rain and violent storms over the area affected by bushfire and so the emergency appears to be over now the lives that have been disrupted may get back to normal sometime in the future. the media regale us with sad tales of those with shattered lives and lament the damage brought by the storms

Apparently charities have reaped millions of dollars out of bush fire appeals and have not distributed the money, the Red Cross even admitting only 30% has been distributed. When the public contribute to appeals they expect the donations to directly benefit those affected, not be salted away in the coffers of large charities, but there are thousands desperately in need of help and bureaucracy has taken over, this isn't only in Charitable circles, but government assistance has been slow also with only a trickle of the funds made available catually reaching victims

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...again/11892062

https://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...8451ad1df0cc8d

You sound more like us every day Clete. Me thinks you have arrived at the reality of buearocratic red tape. It's a huge job though finding victims and assessing their just due.

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You sound more like us every day Clete. Me thinks you have arrived at the reality of buearocratic red tape. It's a huge job though finding victims and assessing their just due.

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It is not hard to find them, they are not thin on the ground, extra resources have been put into the regions and yet, crossing the T's and doting the I's is the order of the day and these charities have the effrontery to say they are holding back the money to help later. The need is now, when people have no homes.\

Every resident in these regions is affected and there is enough private donations to give a grant to every person of $200 without red tape and still have more to give. For example; my son has to take handiman jobs to make ends meet, his business is affected and his wife is on short shifts. No power, no telephone and the charities are waiting for needs in the future. load of crap