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  • Apr 1, 2019, 06:45 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It seems you disbelieve everything the administration says, even the AG. You think the devil is in the detail or in the White House, but he has resided in the White House for a long time

    Trust but verify, but I admit I do not trust the dufus or his sycophants at all so show me the details. That's FAIR isn't it.
  • Apr 1, 2019, 06:52 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You will get Mueller's report, or at least a redacted version which is what is required by law. And no doubt the dems will find sentences and phrases which seem to show that martians really landed in New Mexico or whatever. There is such a hatred of Trump that dems latch on to any desperate hope they can find. They have let the likes of Maxine Waters drive this ridiculous impeachment conversation to the place where they have forgotten the American people. In the meantime, we continue to run up debt like drunken sailors, but no one pays attention to that because of the smelly politics in the whole thing. It makes me glad to be a citizen of heaven and to be serving the one true King.

    The law requires that House has the full report in which to exercise their due diligience of oversight as written in the Constitution. I can agree with your concerns of debt, or more broadly fiscal management, but you like your tax cuts, but you cannot hide behind your dual citizenship of heaven and Earth but follow a devil down his path.
  • Apr 1, 2019, 10:18 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The law requires that House has the full report in which to exercise their due diligience of oversight as written in the Constitution.
    What law is that?

    Quote:

    you cannot hide behind your dual citizenship of heaven and Earth but follow a devil down his path.
    More name calling. Are you taking lessons from Mr. Trump?
  • Apr 1, 2019, 10:50 AM
    talaniman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_oversight

    Is it name calling, or the truth?
  • Apr 1, 2019, 02:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Is it name calling, or the truth?
    I didn't take your link since I'm pretty sure President Trump is not a devil.
  • Apr 1, 2019, 03:49 PM
    talaniman
    The link was to the law as applicable to why the dems house can LEGALLY get the unredacted Mueller report. You asked, I provided.
  • Apr 1, 2019, 04:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The link was to the law as applicable to why the dems house can LEGALLY get the unredacted Mueller report. You asked, I provided.

    And Sneaky Barr said the complete report will be available to Congress on April 15. Congress goes on its Spring break April 12.
  • Apr 1, 2019, 05:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The link was to the law
    No, the link was to a Wiki article giving a general overview of the function of the Congress. Nice try.

    Quote:

    Sneaky Barr
    I thought you were opposed to name calling.

    And you need to dig a little deeper. The Congress will get a redacted version.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/29/70812...eral-barr-says

    "Nadler and other Democrats had asked for a complete release by April 2, but Barr said it would a take little longer to make the necessary redactions to protect grand jury material, sources and methods, and ongoing investigations, a process that Mueller is assisting in."
  • Apr 2, 2019, 05:20 AM
    talaniman
    You have a problem with the intelligence committee seeing the unredacted version? What are you guys hiding?
  • Apr 2, 2019, 10:53 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You have a problem with the intelligence committee seeing the unredacted version? What are you guys hiding?
    I don't know who the "you guys" are, but I have no interest at all in not letting them see the entire report. The law, however, at least as I understand it, does not allow for it. But that's OK. You dems are starting to look like unreasonable fanatics when you refuse to just quietly step back and move on.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 11:23 AM
    talaniman
    There is a process in place for the AG to release an unredacted copy to the Intel committee IMMEDIATELY. It was used by Jaworski in the Watergate investigation. Barr knows that. That's okay. There is a legal remedy available to the congress also.

    What you don't know how to handle lying, cheating, bullies? Giving them what they want is not an option. Step back quietly indeed!
  • Apr 2, 2019, 01:05 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    There is a process in place for the AG to release an unredacted copy to the Intel committee IMMEDIATELY. It was used by Jaworski in the Watergate investigation.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Jaworski's report contained any grand jury testimony. That is the part that is protected by law and is to be confidential.

    Keep going with this. Trump probably loves it because the public is starting to see this for what it's been all along, which is an effort by the "hate Trump" crowd to get to him at any price. It has very little, in my view, to do with justice. It is just a vindictive effort to get to Trump.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 04:51 PM
    talaniman
    Secret from the public yes, and considering the grand jury's work is still proceeding rightfully so, but that shouldn't stop it from being held from the Intell committee, who gets briefed at the highest levels of any ongoing investigations by the intelligence community on a regular basis.

    Regardless the hate the dufus crowd is bigger than you think, and his supporters are hardly a majority of the country. Besides the vast majority wants to know what Mueller found even repubs and dufus supporters. Unlike you who may believe his lie, he has not been exonerated by ANYBODY of obstruction of justice.

    You can quietly back away and move on if you want to. I expect dems to press forward, despite what the right wing noise machine or the dufus says.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 05:16 PM
    tomder55
    Nadler is a phony . When the Starr report was ready and the law required it's full release ;Nadler did all he could to prevent it's release .

    You know and I know that it would be illegal to release Mueller's report unedited .
    He can't release materials about ongoing investigations, classified materials, disputes among prosecutors as to the meaning of the law.
    Mueller indicted 37 people and probably investigated more than that and many of them were not indicted, and material about them can't be released legally .Assuming Trump waived his right to privacy or executive privilege ,there are still parts of the report that cant be released as much as you and I wish so.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 06:18 PM
    talaniman
    We may never see it, but for sure our lawmakers should under classification of course. Nadler may have failed before, but I think that he may prevail on this one. Might take a while since Starr was more than happy to squeal on Clinton. Barr will protect the dufus though as much as he can, for as long as he can.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 07:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Every republican in Washington is hoping the dems continue this ridiculous witch hunt. It makes them look sillier by the day.
  • Apr 2, 2019, 08:06 PM
    talaniman
    Maybe so, but as more is revealed you may be glad dems are doing their due diligence. TRUST BUT VERIFY! What's forgotten in all this is all the witches that have been caught.
  • Apr 4, 2019, 12:35 AM
    Athos
    Some witch hunt!

    After 4 times over a few years, Trump can't even remember where his father was born. He keeps saying Germany instead of New York City, the actual birthplace. Even after several corrections by his staff, he continues to give the wrong location. The man is clearly mentally disabled. No joke.

    His tweet shrieks are getting shriller and shriller as the noose tightens. The committee that wrote the Mueller report claims Barr misrepresented the report. Is anybody surprised that Trump's flunky Barr did that? The committee says there's a lot of bad info about Trump that Barr simply ignored.

    To top it all off, another committee is legally demanding Trump's tax returns for the last six years. Individual and corporate.

    Funny thing about Trump - you'd think that for the thousands of dollars he spends on a suit and a topcoat, he could get them to fit. Weird.
  • Apr 4, 2019, 04:09 AM
    jlisenbe
    Keep on dreaming.
  • Apr 4, 2019, 07:07 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Keep on dreaming.

    Wake up!

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