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Originally Posted by smoothy

Cristie is in the middle of a mental breakdown.

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I can see why you would say that given his stance:

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In his decision announced Friday, Christie asserted that “parents, and not government regulators, are best suited to decide how to care for their children.”

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I thought the FDA controlled the approval process.

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Hello again, tom:

Which came first? The DEA saying pot has NO medical benefits, or a study by the FDA to determine whether that's the truth?? I'll give you a hint. It was the DEA. So, as long as pot is classified a schedule 1 narcotic, with NO KNOWN medical benefits, the FDA can't even study it.

Now, while this head in the sand methodology of approving drugs may be attractive to YOU, most of us think it's stupid..

I'm a long term pot user. Anecdotally, I always knew that it had SOME medical benefits for SOME people. What I DIDN'T know is that it COULD have MIRACULOUS benefits for a LOT of people. So, as much as the DEA doesn't like it, pot IS being studied, and the findings are DRAMATIC.

I watched a TV special about how Sanja Gupta, once a fierce drug warrior, started being a doctor again. Long story short, there was a set of twins - one normal, and the other had seizures. The parents tried EVERY legal drug on the market for the sick little girl. Nothing worked. The child was on the verge of death, when she got a tincture of the RIGHT kind of pot placed under her tongue, and the seizures stopped.. The results were MIRACULOUS. I did NOT know pot could do that.

They say that pot can cure cancer. I believe it. Wouldn't you like to know? If you leave it to the DEA/FDA, you'll NEVER know. Maybe YOU'LL get cancer and COULD have been cured IF we didn't have this silly drug war.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

Which came first? The DEA saying pot has NO medical benefits, or a study by the FDA to determine whether that's the truth??? I'll give you a hint. It was the DEA. So, as long as pot is classified a schedule 1 narcotic, with NO KNOWN medical benefits, the FDA can't even study it.

Now, while this head in the sand methodology of approving drugs may be attractive to YOU, most of us think it's stupid..

I'm a long term pot user. Anecdotally, I always knew that it had SOME medical benefits for SOME people. What I DIDN'T know is that it COULD have MIRACULOUS benefits for a LOT of people. So, as much as the DEA doesn't like it, pot IS being studied, and the findings are DRAMATIC.

I watched a TV special about how Sanja Gupta, once a fierce drug warrior, started being a doctor again. Long story short, there was a set of twins - one normal, and the other had seizures. The parents tried EVERY legal drug on the market for the sick little girl. Nothing worked. The child was on the verge of death, when she got a tincture of the RIGHT kind of pot placed under her tongue, and the seizures stopped.. The results were MIRACULOUS. I did NOT know pot could do that.

They say that pot can cure cancer. I believe it. Wouldn't you like to know? If you leave it to the DEA/FDA, you'll NEVER know. Maybe YOU'LL get cancer and COULD have been cured IF we didn't have this silly drug war.

excon

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I'm just wondering what other prescription drug gets it's approval process by executive action .I completely understand your point about clinical testing . I'm in an industry that has many products that get similar road blocks ,but have lot's of ancedotal evidence of effectiveness.

Good luck with that Ex we know pot has benefits for pain relief, it's the addictive properties that are the problem particularly with the new strains

It is as simple as reclassifying it out of the same thing as heroin, and cocaine. And burning all the copies of Reefer Madness.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

good luck with that Ex we know pot has benefits for pain relief, it's the addictive properties that are the problem particularly with the new strains

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You mean like the addictive properties of gambling, alcohol, and sex?

There are many things that have harmfull addictive properties, some are regulated and some should be. Every time you try to regulate something you create a monster because we live in an imperfect world and people don't respond the way you would like them to. Right now narcotics are at the head of the list and yes alcohol and gambling should be restricted so should video games and sex is already regulated in various ways, but we also need to tackle sugar, caffine, speed, the list goes on

The issue is should people go to jail for smoking a joint, while we have this great debate? I don't think so.

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yes alcohol and gambling should be restricted so should video games and sex is already regulated in various ways, but we also need to tackle sugar, caffine, speed, the list goes on

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So, not only is the drug war GOOD, we need to add a few things to it. DUDE!

Excon

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Originally Posted by talaniman

It is as simple as reclassifying it out of the same thing as heroin, and cocaine. And burning all the copies of Reefer Madness.

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No it's not . There is a specific process for NDA s All prescription drugs go through it . But with medical marijuana this process gets violated . I'm just wondering what other drugs would you approve of bypassing this approval process . I though for the left that the regulatory process was there for public safety .

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But with medical marijuana this process gets violated .

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It gets violated because the government is the STUMBLING block to progress. When the government finds itself at odds with the people, the PEOPLE win - so far anyway.

That's as it should be.

Excon

The goal is not going to jail for being a pot head and reclassification does that. We can debate everything else in the meantime. What part of not going to jail are you confused about because that's my priority.

When DEA, and FDA catch up, cool, but in the meantime... fire it up!!

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I can see why you would say that given his stance:

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Not just his 'stance" on that alone..but his general "Stance" on everything.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:
It gets violated because the government is the STUMBLING block to progress. When the government finds itself at odds with the people, the PEOPLE win - so far anyway.

That's as it should be.

excon

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Oh if only that was the attitude to the rest of the Leviathan !

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but his general "Stance" on everything.

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Oops, I think you are confusing him with this fine Republican: Larry Craig scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Oops, I think you are confusing him with this fine Republican: Larry Craig scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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No... different fellow... Didn't think much of him either.

Hello again,

Yesterday, Holder said the Justice Department won't challenge state laws that legalize marijuana and will focus federal enforcement on serious trafficking cases and keeping the drug away from children.

Are the floodgates open?

excon

Maybe in your state, but not in mine, not even a trickle here.

I guess Eric Holder has decided he is above the courts and entire Legislative branch of the US Government...

I'm curious where he thinks he gets that kind of authority from?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Maybe in your state, but not in mine, not even a trickle here.

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It all flows down I-40 right past my house.