Must be your area. I was in Red Lobster a couple of weeks ago and the service was fantastic. Olive Garden on Sunday also offered fantastic service. Of course that might change with the added regulations they're facing because they'll have to raise prices and people will eat out less so they'll have to downsize their workforce.

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Regulatory mandates flowing from federal health care reform may be the most visible, but the list also includes measures such as new mandatory paid leave provisions that require us to change the way we accommodate employees who need to take time off when they are ill and ever more unrealistic requirements regarding employee meal and rest breaks that, in California for example, force our employees to take breaks in the middle of serving lunch or dinner.

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Fire the manager, and get someone who can manage, no matter what the rules may be. If you can't serve the customers when they walk through the door, you shouldn't be in business.

Bet a high paid hedge fund manager gets a break when he wants it, so why not a low paid service worker? You mean I have to wash dishes when I get the flu?

While I agree that regulation may require some creative solutions, and implementations, I am still waiting for specifics that make them worth scraping. Maybe it's the business model itself that can stand some tweaking, like eliminating crazy bonus pay outs, or golden parachutes that are unearned. For sure you cannot expect the workers to make up for executives greed, and over reach.

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Maybe its the business model itself that can stand some tweaking, like eliminating crazy bonus pay outs, or golden parachutes that are unearned. For sure you cannot expect the workers to make up for executives greed, and over reach.

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I guess you missed the part where restaurants operate on a low profit margin.

Hello again,

If I wasn't clear before, I'll try again.

I've been in business for 30 years. There's NEVER been CERTAINTY. Taxes have gone up and they've gone down. Regulations have been instituted, and they've been revised and replaced. Republicans have been elected and so have Democrats.

NONE of that guided ANY of my business decisions. Those costs, WHATEVER they were, were part of the normal business operating environment. I incorporated them into the cost of doing business, and made sure that I charged MORE than that.

I was able to DO it. LOTS of people were NOT. Guess who they blamed? Themselves?? Nahhh... It was regulations, it was the health inspector, it was the union, it was taxes, it was ANYBODY but me.

excon

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I incorporated them into the cost of doing business, and made sure that I charged MORE than that.

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That's what I've been saying all along/ They aren't just the cost of doing business, they're passed on to me. The less disposable income I have because you keep raising your prices for things I need, the less I spend at places like restaurants which have a low profit margin already.

SOMEONE pays the price for over-regulation, ex, usually those who can afford it least. You do know that Obama wants energy prices to "necessarily skyrocket" by way of regulation. That way we can pay through the nose for electricity to charge the $40,000 Chevy Volt we can't afford that may or may not catch fire on us. See how good regulations are?

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That's what I've been saying all along/ They aren't just the cost of doing business, they're passed on to me.

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Hello again, Steve:

I don't think that's what you were saying. I think you were saying that people wouldn't get hired - not that stuff costs more.

But, be that as it may, you're right this time. ALL the costs of doing business get passed on. Are regulations a part of that cost? Sure. Are they a BIGGER part of that cost than they ever were? NO!

A guy that's not doing as well as I am, might NOT agree with me. The sniveler from Red Lobster sounds like one of those.

excon

Actually I've said both, but in relation to the one statement of yours I just quoted, I have been saying those "costs of doing business" are passed on all along. Glad you finally acknowledged it in so many words.

The point with the Red Lobster guy is here is an Obama donor and supporter admitting over regulation makes it difficult to plan. If he doesn't understand how all the new regulations are going to affect his business he can't plan, and if you can't plan you have uncertainty. Without confidence in what to expect in the way of compliance companies are going to be hesitant to hire. It's just a fact, ex, it's HAPPENING and people on both sides that have to deal with these regulations in real life say the same thing, so I don't know what further proof you need that over regulating hinders economic growth.

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Hello again, Steve:

All of what your guy said is true.. There IS no certainly. Apparently, that STOPS him. But, believing as I did, that there NEVER WILL be certainty, it didn't stop me. I either go NOW, or I should NEVER go. I went.

Up till now we've been talking about regulations... The notion of "over regulating" is in the eye of the beholder. Like I've said a few times here, those who can't compete look for ANYONE or ANYTHING to blame but themselves..

excon

Then let's just regulate the hell out of everything.

Here you go, this is the disturbing mindset of the fool in the oval office. That Keystone pipeline that could be creating a bunch of jobs, helping free us from middle east oil and giving a boost to our friends to the north? Extending unemployment benefits will create more jobs than Keystone, according to our really, really smart president.

Okay what regulations would you do away with? If regulations are bad, then name them. That's my point, everybody has a grief about them, and whose choice is it to go into a business with a low profit margin?

Fire the guy for having a cold if that's what you want, or the pregnant female in false labor, that will solve the problems right?

Or let the businesses run things the way they want to, and if your child gets asthma so what? And who needs a break when you have a lunch crowd? That's right and make government smaller so businesses can get as big as they please, and do as they please.

Yeah the cost gets passed on to the consumer, so what, then he needs a raise to afford what ever businesses are selling. What a cycle, and evidently you think that's the way it should be. I guess that's why repubs don't want any kind of agency that protects consumers because that's bad for business, because an informed consumer can make a choice and not just fall for the sales pitch.

No customers and you capitalist are out of business. Doesn't matter about that profit margin then.

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Here you go, this is the disturbing mindset of the fool in the oval office.

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Hello again, Steve:

You confuse a negotiating position with a policy decision.. Watch.. He'll trade the pipeline for getting the middle class tax cuts. That way everybody wins. Ain't Barack wonderful?

excon

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Here you go, this is the disturbing mindset of the fool in the oval office. That Keystone pipeline that could be creating a bunch of jobs, helping free us from middle east oil and giving a boost to our friends to the north? Extending unemployment benefits will create more jobs than Keystone, according to our really, really smart president.

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Environmental impact of the oil shale industry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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At best, the direct combustion of oil shales produces carbon emissions similar to those from the lowest form of coal, lignite, at 2.15 moles CO2/MJ,[2] an energy source which is also politically contentious due to its high emission levels.[17][18] For both power generation and oil extraction, the CO2 emissions can be reduced by better utilization of waste heat from the product streams.

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Currently, the in-situ process is the most attractive proposition due to the reduction in standard surface environmental problems. However, in-situ processes do involve possible significant environmental costs to aquifers, especially since in-situ methods may require ice-capping or some other form of barrier to restrict the flow of the newly gained oil into the groundwater aquifers. However, after the removal of the freeze wall these methods can still cause groundwater contamination as the hydraulic conductivity of the remaining shale increases allowing groundwater to flow through and leach salts from the newly toxic aquifer

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Asbestos for insulation was a great idea too! Until all the cancer victims showed up.Make money before the science is known, or the regulator shows up, then repeal health care and drop all the cancer victims, now that's a great business model from the guys who defend low taxes for the rich, but not the middle class. Or what's left of it, but why let a good hostage go to waste?

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Hello again, Steve:

You confuse a negotiating position with a policy decision.. Watch.. He'll trade the pipeline for getting the middle class tax cuts. That way everybody wins. Ain't Barack wonderful?

excon

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I have been known to confuse Chris Johnson with a reliable running back, but I'm smart enough to know you can create more jobs by building a pipeline than by keeping people unemployed. :rolleyes:

There are some states that don't agree with you on that.

Proposal for 2nd pipeline sparks opposition ? USATODAY.com

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-- Along the pipeline route, landowners are fighting eminent domain lawsuits as TransCanada tries to collect the easements it needs to begin construction. The company has been criticized as presumptuous for taking landowners to court before obtaining a federal permit.

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Opposition raised to proposed oil sands pipeline | Tulsa World

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BP, the company at the forefront of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, is one of the oil sands producers.

But even its stockholders have expressed concern about investing in oil sands, according to news reports.

Last week, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said an environmental-impact study on the pipeline was inadequate and did not address environmental or safety concerns in the event of spills.

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Have we forgotten the gulf spill already? Or that no oil spills have ever been cleaned up on American soil? Think Valdez, and how that worked out. That's was clean oil compared to this shale oil. This isn't fed oppositions, it's the states that the pipeline runs through.

Republican use of this hostage will bite them in the butt, so why do it, in the name of jobs? I don't think so! Looks like Obama is suckering you guys again. Maybe Bonehead and the house should get out more, or learn to read, because those regulations, and lawsuits have to be reconciled.

Regulations in my industry are causing owers of small operations to close shop... a job loser .

The business is being consolidated by larger companies . But these companies are not necessarily hiring . Instead where they might hire they instead are squeezing what productivity they can from their work force.
The regs have also increased the costs of the products which means fewer sales .
You see ;I may not be an owner ;but the effect of OVER regulations are apparent for all to see.
I have the FDA to deal with . They can't seem to decide if I make drugs or foods. So they take the worse of both and consolidate them into a composite of conflicting regulations that none understand . What we are left with instead of is inpectors that use their own interpretations to enforce the regs in an ad hoc and inconsistent basis . One inspector that may have been in the drug enforcement side before using one standard ;another coming in the next round with a completely different understanding of the regs.

Let's see if we can bring this to something many of us understand . NYC has a long tradition of cart vendors selling foods that the city is famous for . People actually travel to the city to eat things like "dirty water hot dogs " or pretzels and nuts roasted on charcoal .
Now someone in the city thinks it would be a good idea to rate these carts with the same standards that the sit down fancy eateries need to comply with. Obviously these carts will never comply... and when people start seeing the poorer ratings (NYC uses color coding) ;they will stop going to the cart vendors .

That's not fair making street vendors use FDA approved food, and washing their hands before serving the public.

But Mitt will make them part of a national chain and fire the b#stards, and take the money. That what he does for a living.

Be a dishwasher, and keep your hands clean for a living, and don't worry about the regulations.

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There are some states that don't agree with you on that.

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Make that a janitor, my bad, Newt is the new flavor for repubs.

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Some states agree with Obama that unemployment creates more jobs than pipeline construction? That's just really weird.