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Originally Posted by paraclete

crap, that is deviant behaviour

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Many studies confirm that pedophiles are straight males. Check it out at your local library. Deviant straight males molest both male and female children. And it isn't necessarily a sexual attraction thing. There's a lot more going on.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

As I said Ex you are very screwed up

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excon is correct. That's what our Constitution says.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Many studies confirm that pedophiles are straight males. Check it out at your local library. Deviant straight males molest both male and female children. And it isn't necessarily a sexual attraction thing. There's a lot more going on.

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You might want to read this.

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The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%–4%) (5, 7, 10, 19, 29, 30). This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children


Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts (15). A study by Abel et al. (32) of 377 nonincarcerated, non-incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts. These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the underreporting of assaults


Source:

A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues -- Hall and Hall 7 (4): 522 -- Focus

If you read the entire article, you will notice that the majority of pedophiles are older straight males and "females were the most commonly abused."

Hello again,

Yawnnn... Some fags are deviant... Some straight people are too. So? What's that got to do with civil rights?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Yawnnn... Some fags are deviant... Some straight people are too. So? What's that got to do with civil rights?

excon

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Some people are hetrosexual, Ex, some are homosexual what's that got to do with civil rights? The Constitution talks about descrimination on the basis of "sex" not orientation. It is very specific. Do you think the politicians might have anticipated this debate?

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Originally Posted by paraclete

the Constitution talks about descrimination on the basis of "sex" not orientation. It is very specific. Do you think the politicians might have anticipated this debate?

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Hello again, clete:

You're referring to EEOC laws. They have NOTHING to do with gay marriage. Even so, in MOST states, one can't discriminate based on sexual ORIENTATION either.

Gay marriage is dealt with in the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments. It's a good thing you have me around to teach you Constitutional law.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, clete:

You're referring to EEOC laws. They have NOTHING to do with gay marriage. Even so, in MOST states, one can't discriminate based on sexual ORIENTATION either.

Gay marriage is dealt with in the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments. It's a good thing you have me around to teach you Constitutional law.

excon

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I'm referring to the Constitution Ex go read the amendment dealing with sexual discrimination it says nothing about orientation. If your legislators have said anything contrary they have missed it or deliberately misintrepreted it. Look I get it if it doesn't say what you want it to say make it up

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Look I get it if it doesn't say what you wnat it to say make it up

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Hello again, clete:

I guess I have to teach you to READ, too. If you'll notice, I said in most STATES can't discriminate based upon sexual orientation... So, no... You won't find those words in the US Constitution.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, clete:

I guess I have to teach you to READ, too. If you'll notice, I said in most STATES can't discriminate based upon sexual orientation... So, no... You won't find those words in the US Constitution.

excon

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That was a lesson in Constitutional Law Ex want another?

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I'm referring to the Constitution Ex go read the amendment dealing with sexual discrimination it says nothing about orientation.

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Hello PC - would you be so kind as to tell us precisely which amendment to the US Constituiton you are referring to that addresses sex discrimination? Because there isn't one. The closest thing to it is the 19th amendment, which extended the right to vote to women. But that's all it does. Perhaps you are thinking about the proposed Equal Rights Amendent, which has not been ratified:

Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

So all anti-discrimination laws regarding gender have been passed individually by the various legislatures (federal, state, city, etc). Same thing is happening now with anti-discrimination laws regarding sexual orientation.

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Originally Posted by excon

Gay marriage is dealt with in the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments. It's a good thing you have me around to teach you Constitutional law.

excon

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Which one of these amendments are you trying to focus on? I don't see that the right of due process has been interupted. And from what one of the founding fathers has said some rights come about by struggle as they are unknown and can not be recognized as rights.

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Second, while acknowledging that it would be impossible to enumerate every human liberty imaginable, supporters of a Bill of Rights maintained that this obstacle should not impede the Framers from establishing constitutional protection for certain essential liberties. Thomas Jefferson, responding to Madison's claim that no Bill of Rights could ever be exhaustive, commented that "[h]alf a loaf is better than no bread. If we cannot secure all of our rights, let us secure what we can."


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9th Amendment legal definition of 9th Amendment. 9th Amendment synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

FindLaw: U.S. Constitution: Fourteenth Amendment

14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress)

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Hello PC - would you be so kind as to tell us precisely which amendment to the US Constituiton you are referring to that addresses sex discrimination? Because there isn't one. The closest thing to it is the 19th amendment, which extended the right to vote to women. But that's all it does. Perhaps you are thinking about the proposed Equal Rights Amendent, which has not been ratified:

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You read it, I have