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Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
For the same reason REPUBLICAN Senator David Vitter is still serving... Because it's OK when your OWN guy does stuff, but the other guy better not... I understand... Really, I do.
By the way, David Vitter actually BROKE the LAW. Weiner didn't... Vitter put his weiner all up inside his whore. Weiner just mailed a picture. I refer you to my post above. There are SOME hypocrites around, and they SUCK.
excon
No it's not OK . I'm consistent as far as that goes. It remains to be seen if Weiner broke any law. He almost certainly violated rules of the House.
Not that that matters ; Dem Reps who clearly broke the law are still serving ;one defiantly so.
Here's the difference in my view, their responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Vitter: "This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way."
Weiner: ""Well, the main question that a lot of people are asking is did I send the photograph," Weiner said in an interview with CBS News. "I did not. This was a prank, a hoax."
Hello again, Steve:
That's it?? He apologized and Wiener didn't... It matters NOT what they DID, only what they SAID about it?? Really?? That's bizarre as hell.
excon
Really? I'm not defending either one, but people tend to be more forgiving of someone who comes clean as opposed to someone who lies and weasels his way around it. It's not bizarre, it's completely normal.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
There's another factor at work here that you guys seem to miss... When a guy holds himself out to be holier than thou, and it turns out that he's NOT holier than thou, it's normal for people to CHEER when he takes a fall..
However, when a normal guy turns out to BE normal, people don't like him, but they don't CHEER over his fall. Frankly, I could FORGIVE a guy who is LIKE me.. But, I can't forgive a guy who is LIKE me, but PRETENDS he's sooooooo much better... I LOVE to see him take a fall.
But, that's just me... You?? Not so much.
excon
I feel that way about Obama pretending to be one of us, but I digress. I guess that's the difference between you and me, I know my own imperfections, I don't cheer when someone takes a fall. It's that "there but for the grace of God go I" thing.
But if you're saying Weiner is a NORMAL guy I have to laugh, he's a very sanctimonious guy in his own right.
Weiner normal ? Sorry ;it is not normal behavior to send lewd photos and have virtual sexual encounters with other women on line .It's abnormal ; and it's dangerous for many reasons for an elected Rep to display such obsessive compulsive behavior . I'd have to investigate the law to see if his behavior crossed the line.
Hello again,
Let's not get off track here. What's normal here, is not HOW one's sexual proclivities emerge, but that one HAS sexual proclivities in the FIRST place... What's NORMAL, is that we, as a species, dillydally. It's ABNORMAL to deny it.
Worse than that, it's hypocritical to say you will NEVER dillydally, because you're BETTER than that, and then you get caught dillydallying..
To me, that is a much worse offense than anything Anthony Weiner did.
Let me tell you why. It's because people who LIE about their own sexual proclivities, and pass LAWS that require everybody else to live up to what THEY themselves DON'T live up to, is WRONG, HYPOCRITICAL, and highly DANGEROUS for the country.
excon
Dude, I get the hypocrisy angle, but if hypocrites don't make laws then who will?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I'm available.
excon
Hypocrisy thy name is Weiner
From his web site :
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h719_ih.xmlQuote:
Along with several colleagues in Congress, we introduced & passed the KIDS (Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators) Act of 2007, a bill to require sex offenders to register their e-mail and instant message addresses with the National Sex Offender Registry.. .
Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a mere click away from our children.
Anthony Weiner - New York's 9th District
Now there's no evidence that he's a predator . There is also no evidence he was sure of the age of the women he was sexting . Either way his behavior can be interpreted as at least borderline sexual harassment .
Page 2: Rep. Anthony Weiner: 'The Picture Was of Me and I Sent It' - ABC NewsQuote:
During one Facebook chat conversation, Broussard said she voiced uneasiness with the electronic relationship, to which she says Weiner replied, "you are not stalking me....I am stalking you."
Are you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hypocrisy becomes the nations business, when hypocrisy foments LAW.
Yes, Weiner is a hypocrite in terms of his vows to his wife. But, he doesn't DENY others the right to get married because he purports to sanctify marriage, when he clearly does NOT. That is SOP for the right wing.
In one instance his family is harmed. In the other, the NATION is harmed...
excon
Still he should resign. Any and all civil servants who have done similar immoral acts should resign as well.
In other words, liberals aren't hypocrites because they really don't have any standards.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The standard liberals use is the Constitution... Yours appears to be the Bible. I'll opt for the Constitution. It doesn't say ANYTHING about dillydallying.
excon
Ex, thanks for validating my assertion.
I don't need any bible to tell me faithfulness to my spouse is right. If we have no moral and ethical standards for the men and women "leading" this country then then we're far worse off than I thought. Some level of trust that transcends the constitution is needed. Maybe it's not unconstitutional for Weiner to tweet his weiner, but it ain't right.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You make the mistake of assuming that morals and ethics can only emanate from the Bible, and then you correct yourself. So, what is it?
Actually, you were correct FIRST, and then you argued with yourself.
excon
When did I use the bible? "There, but for the grace of God..." is a quote from John Bradford which I applied personally. The principles I spoke of are biblical principles, forgiveness, repentance, etc. But I intentionally did NOT offer the bible as a standard, you assumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Cal Thomas offered the standard he is held to: "A member ... officer or employee of the House shall conduct himself at all times in a manner that shall reflect creditably on the House." -- Code of Official Conduct, Rule XXIII, Clause 1'
Has his conduct reflected creditably on the House?
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