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Originally Posted by paraclete

well athos how brilliant you are, but we mere males are not expected to understand what females are doing, either on their head or on any other part of their body. viva la difference

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That's the prime cause of insanity among men. Attempting to figure out what women are thinking and understanding why they think that way.

Best to just enjoy the differences rather than understand them.

Yep let them wander where they may, just don't expect us to pay for it

For your amusement:
Royal Wedding: Forget Kate Middleton's dress, Princess Beatrice's hat is a Facebook hit | Mail Online

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Originally Posted by Athos

They're not hats, they're "fascinators". Think whimsey.

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There are hats, and there are fascinators. The fascinators are the feathery, poofy things often with netting and lace and clipped on usually to the side (or rarely to the top) of the head. Beatrice's thing was a hat.

Athos, you must be a male.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

There are hats, and there are fascinators. The fascinators are the feathery, poofy things often with netting and lace and clipped on usually to the side (or rarely to the top) of the head. Beatrice's thing was a hat.

Athos, you must be a male.

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If you think that thing was a hat, you're even more millinery-challenged than I am.

Besides, all males are into fashion. A suit bought in 1950 can be worn in 2011 without anyone knowing the difference. See? Our fashions are so well-considered, they last for decades. Put THAT in your fascinator and smoke it.

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Originally Posted by Athos

Besides, all males are into fashion. A suit bought in 1950 can be worn in 2011 without anyone knowing the difference. See? Our fashions are so well-considered, they last for decades.

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I have to remember that one... :D I know I'll have a chance to repeat that at some point.

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Originally Posted by Athos

If you think that thing was a hat, you're even more millinery-challenged than I am.

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I've been female all my life. It was a hat, not a fascinator.

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Our fashions are so well-considered, they last for decades. Put THAT in your fascinator and smoke it.

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I don't smoke.

Note the width of lapels on men's suits, the fabric preferences, the width of the pants and ties, the color of the shirt, the type of shoes. Men's fashions change, but oh so subtly. Nowadays, the tie is pulled open and hanging, the shirt is unbuttoned a bit down from the neck ("I'm so casual and laid-back"), the pants may be jeans, a suit jacket or sport coat is added as an afterthought, and the shoes are often what guys wear while playing basketball.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I've been female all my life. It was a hat, not a fascinator.

I don't smoke.

Note the width of lapels on men's suits, the fabric preferences, the width of the pants and ties, the color of the shirt, the type of shoes. Men's fashions change, but oh so subtly. Nowadays, the tie is pulled open and hanging, the shirt is unbuttoned a bit down from the neck ("I'm so casual and laid-back"), the pants may be jeans, a suit jacket or sport coat is added as an afterthought, and the shoes are often what guys wear while playing basketball.

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Yeah... a 70's suit with a 6" lapel and 2" platform shoes... :eek: or worse... a late 70's polyester leisure suit.


Yeah I'm old enough to remember those... and actually have one back then.

The things we wear in the name of fashion...

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

The things we wear in the name of fashion....

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Things we'd like to forget ever existed...

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Things we'd like to forget ever existed.....

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It bothers you that much? Really?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

width of lapels on men's suits, the fabric preferences, the width of the pants and ties, the color of the shirt, the type of shoes. ....... Nowadays, the tie is pulled open and hanging, the shirt is unbuttoned a bit down from the neck ("I'm so casual and laid-back"), the pants may be jeans, a suit jacket or sport coat is added as an afterthought, and the shoes are often what guys wear while playing basketball.

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Hey, nobody notices that stuff - other than a bunch of females. And what the hell is a "fabric preference"? Don't use jargon. Say what you mean. Geez.

Anyway, men's suits are made from CLOTH which comes from lambs or sheep or something. No big deal.

Yeah, I've noticed that top unbuttoned shirt with the big tie. Ok, one in 60 years.

Btw, a formal morning suit (didn't think I knew that, didja?) hasn't changed in NINETY years!!

I thought the queen looked quite lovely in her yellow dress and hat, but there's no explaining some of the others... especially the blue vagina and the flying spaghetti monster.

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Originally Posted by Athos

Hey, nobody notices that stuff - other than a bunch of females. And what the hell is a "fabric preference"? Don't use jargon. Say what you mean. Geez.

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The suit fabric really does make the suit, literally and figuratively -- linen, polyester, wool, cotton, tweed, herringbone, flannel, silk, poplin, seersucker, and cashmere.

Every man needs a woman in his life to dress him properly.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I thought the queen looked quite lovely in her yellow dress and hat, but there's no explaining some of the others...especially the blue vagina and the flying spaghetti monster.

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Didn't you kind of wonder how they were affixed to the women's heads? -- headbands, clips, tape?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Every man needs a woman in his life to dress him properly.

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I don't subscribe to this theory.

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The suit fabric really does make the suit, literally and figuratively -- linen, polyester, wool, cotton, tweed, herringbone, flannel, silk, poplin, seersucker, and cashmere.

Every man needs a woman in his life to dress him properly.

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You made up all those names of things, didn't you?

But, I will agree that men need women to do a lot of stuff - not only dress them. We can start with civilize us, as we come back from the hunt all bloody and streaked with sweat from tracking and killing the aurochs. Then the ladies make gravy and we all have a go at the communal pot and chow down.

Thank you.

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Didn't you kinda wonder how they were affixed to the women's heads? -- headbands, clips, tape?

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Duct tape? By the way, I don't need no woman to dress me either. In fact, I help my wife pick her clothes.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

It bothers you that much? Really?

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You DO remember those late 70's suits... the polyester print shirts... the leisure suits? The chains and pendants ?

If you don't like 'em don't wear 'em.