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Originally Posted by inthebox

No big deal. I go to vote - ID. I go to a club - ID [ though that is very rare these days ]. I go to the bank - ID etc.

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Hello again, in:

No big deal. Walking down the street while being Mexican?

excon

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you guys are sweet with a few million,

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That's a broad brush depiction. Our government lack of enforcement of immigration laws is not something I support.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, in:

No big deal. Walking down the street while being Mexican?

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Uh no, the law does not provide for harassing folks for "walking down the street while being Mexican" and you know that.

All Arizona did was to give itself the authority to enforce existing Federal law.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Uh no, the law does not provide for harassing folks for "walking down the street while being Mexican" and you know that.

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Hello Steve:

I DIDN'T know that, so I read the law. I know it now.

excon

Please name for me any other country in the world (other than USA) that knowingly permits or allows illegal aliens to reside within their borders for years without being deported?

What other country gives them free money, free medical care, allows them to commit crimes and run to sanctuary cities without prosecution, and takes jobs from the lawful citizens of that country and then cries "foul" when they are caught?

Try as I may, I cannot name one other country on this planet other than the USA that permits or allows this kind of behavior.

What gives these people the "right" to be immune from being ID'd to see if they are here legally or not? In other countries around the world this is the norm for tourists to be stopped and ID'd to see if they are supposed to be in that country or not. What's so special about these people that they can be immune to being asked if they are in this country legally or illegally?

But aren't the people of Arizona hiring them for jobs? They are paying them to come over but giving them jobs. Why are they doing that?

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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

Please name for me any other country in the world (other than USA) that knowingly permits or allows illegal aliens to reside within their borders for years without being deported?

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Hello twink:

It really doesn't matter what other country does it. What matters is that WE DID IT - and we've done it for a long, long time. The result is people who have lived here for YEARS and established themselves.

Given that you have correctly identified the bad guy - THE GOVERNMENT, we shouldn't take it out on the people who only did what you yourself would have done. Yes, they got to the border and saw a sign saying DO NOT ENTER. Then they read the next sign which said HELP WANTED.

excon

The left, in their rush to boycott all things Arizona, have called one of my favorite beverages "the drink of fascists." I'd really appreciate it if these morons would do their homework first, Arizona Iced Tea is made in New York. And just so no one gets any ideas about one of my favorite restaurants should you get angry with my state, Texas Roadhouse is not based in Texas.

Meanwhile, San Francisco cuts off diplomatic relations with Arizona. Would anyone in Arizona care?

I think Arizona should deport all the illegals they catch to the sanctuary city by the bay .

That is the best idea I've heard all day. Makes perfect sense.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That is the best idea I've heard all day. Makes perfect sense.

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Hello again,

Me too.

excon

The law is clear as far as what is required to be here. Citizenchip... green card or Visa specifying the length of stay.

And incidentally... with countries where we have a reciprocity agreement... they may not require a VISA to vist... but the duration of such visit is limited to 6 months.

The police have every bit the same right to ask for that information as they do to ask for your drivers license.

Every nation has the sovereign right to control its borders and determine who can and can not be there.

Illegals of any ethnicity HAVE no constitutional right to violate that law... or any other law for that matter, just because geographiclly most in a certain physical place ARE a certain ethnic group means nothing.

And incidentally... exactly what law exempts illegals from having to comply with ANY American law? Latinos are no more special than Chinese or Russian illegals just to name two as an example.

They can apply for legal immigration just like everyone else has to. Why are they special enough to not follow the rules and the law and wait their turn.

Which incidentally violates the rights of those who do comply... and follow the law.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I think Arizona should deport all the illegals they catch to the sanctuary city by the bay .

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I think that's a perfect idea. Let them and their residents pay all the costs to educate, treat in hosipitals and feed them.

See how long they remain a sanctuary city that's violating federal law.

How about we ask San Francisco why they don't offer sanctuary to all the nations child molesters too. What makes the Illegals any more special than American citizens anyway. I'd love for them to answer that question.


Los Angeles and San Fran want to boycot anything from Arizona... how about we all boycott everything from California since THEY are not paying for the true costs of the nations illegals THEY are trying to shield from the law.

What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander. See who has more to lose?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

How about we ask San Francisco why they don't offer sanctuary to all the nations child molesters too. I'd love for them to answer that question.

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Hello again, smoothy:

I don't know. To ME, there's a difference between somebody who wants to blow your leaves, and somebody who wants to blow your children. YOU? Not so much.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I dunno. To ME, there's a difference between somebody who wants to blow your leaves, and somebody who wants to blow your children. You, not so much.

excon

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Those Illegals KILL many on the highways every year (we had two high profile ones in the news locally this year)... Inflict grave financial damage to others as most drive without a License or insurance.

Or they rape and kill people... a large percentage of gang members are illegals... I can name any number... and barely scratch the surface, besides any number of OTHER law violations..

Hmmm that or some dumb rebellious teenage girl wanting to sleep with a loser that can't get a woman his own age...



Gee... which of those is worse. Besides ALL of them being against the law.


Using their OWN words... (calling latino's BROWN people).


Why should "Brown" people be above the law everyone else has to follow.

Why should Latinos be allowed to break the law that lets say Europeans (or Even Canadians) have to follow.

And President Blowhard in Mexico... ask him how do THEY treat illegals from south of THEIR border? See I know the answer to that... and they are particularly harsh on them.

There are plenty of times we as Americans are asked to show identiy, and they check for outstanding warrants etc.. whats wrong with checking immigration status as well... I have no problem with that. Why should illegals be above the law. And that IS what the Arizona Law is about... not the "walking while Brown" claims.

Incidentally... if you have EVER spent much time in another Country... you would know its very common for them to do that very thing (checking your papers), I've had it happen in at least 8 different countries I remember. I didn't get all indignant about it.

Ex, as repetitive as this is it doesn't matter if they're just here to blow your leaves. It has been federal law for some 70 years that non-citizens have been required to carry their papers on them at all times, has it not?

We citizens are expected to present identification to do just about anything; cash a check, open a bank account, get a hotel room, go to a bar or a doctor, get on an airplane, buy a pair of socks with a debit card or some Sudafed at the pharmacy - and yes, when we get pulled over by the cops. Should illegal aliens be exempted?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I dunno. To ME, there's a difference between somebody who wants to blow your leaves, and somebody who wants to blow your children. YOU?? Not so much.

excon

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ROFL :p:p:p:p:p
We don't agree on much but your wit does make me laugh .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

ROFL :p:p:p:p:p
We don't agree on much but your wit does make me laugh .

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You think that was funny,Tom I think ex's remark was pathetic and racial profiling at its worst. What he is saying is you have eleven million hispanic pedophiles in the USA

Then you didn't read the smoothy comment he was replying to.